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I've never been a fan of pop. Most people here will know this. I don't like the way the industry takes a nobody, gives them a song and a video, then once they have made their cash they drop them and get someone else to lure the change out of the kid's pockets.
What always makes me chuckle about it though is the miming. No other music genre would be allowed to get away with it. Definately not the metal scene, that's for sure. Nirvana classicly made a point of their miming on TOTP a while back, playing no chords whatsoever on the guitars and Kurt was obviously saying 'blah, blah, blah', but apart from that, bands that feature real instruments generally play live on shows.
This is because they can. Many of the rock/metal artists you see started out as pub giggers, where the pop princesses were plucked out of the crowd for being pretty and launched into stardom.
It's pretty easy to spot a faker, the lip syncing is the usual giveaway. Some of them - the more rehearsed/established acts - do a very good job of their mime. but this is not the point. The point is that we know as a nation that a recording studio can hide a multitude of sins (Victoria Beckham), but we want to know that the singer on stage is actually capable of singing the tune they have released on their name.
Some shows have realised that this is what the people want to see. Top of the pops generally has someone actually playing live on their show, though the odd mime slides in occasionally - usually with the dance tracks. Programmes like CD:uk, T4, Pepsi Chart, they don't care about it, and miming is throughout the show.
There are other reasons why the acts mime other than their lack of ability. Some shows, like live saturday morning kids shows, just cannot technically support a live act. There is a bit more to it than just plugging it all in, and this is fair enough I suppose, though I have yet to see Holly Valance play live, which makes me suspicious about her ability, and the ability of other, similar acts.
When an act like Holly Valance mimes, she will be wearing a headset microphone to give the illusion that she is doing it for real. People in the background may even have instruments and backing singers open and close their mouths in the right places. But we can always tell it's a mime, and you would have thought that the record companies would have put that little more effort into the illusion if they were trying to fool us.
The most obvious ones (apart from dodgy sync) are:
Second tracks. Usually on the last chorus, the act sings a vocal line disjointed from the main tune, yet the original tune can still be heard. What's worse, as Holly demonstrates, that these tracks sometimes overlay, and she has a go at doing them both.
Instruments. Generally, the people that are playing behind the act can actually play. Not true for all dance acts (spot the drummer), but some. Suspiciously though, you don't always see the instruments plugged in. Electric guitars need that little lead connected up to them for them to be heard and we know it. Drums are never miced up. We're not that think, you know...
But probably the biggest giveaway is effort. You see any act live, and they get tired. You watch something like an award show where an act sings and dances, and they get tired, though you never see the mimers out of breath...
Yes, there are times when miming is accepted - like live on Rise when they don't have the time to set up like that perhaps, but if an act want to prove they can do it, then they have to do it for real.
It's just a shame that people buy the records regardless, letting the record companies think they're getting away with it.
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Cheers for making it all the way through, it was a lot longer than I thought it would be.
Slave.
What always makes me chuckle about it though is the miming. No other music genre would be allowed to get away with it. Definately not the metal scene, that's for sure. Nirvana classicly made a point of their miming on TOTP a while back, playing no chords whatsoever on the guitars and Kurt was obviously saying 'blah, blah, blah', but apart from that, bands that feature real instruments generally play live on shows.
This is because they can. Many of the rock/metal artists you see started out as pub giggers, where the pop princesses were plucked out of the crowd for being pretty and launched into stardom.
It's pretty easy to spot a faker, the lip syncing is the usual giveaway. Some of them - the more rehearsed/established acts - do a very good job of their mime. but this is not the point. The point is that we know as a nation that a recording studio can hide a multitude of sins (Victoria Beckham), but we want to know that the singer on stage is actually capable of singing the tune they have released on their name.
Some shows have realised that this is what the people want to see. Top of the pops generally has someone actually playing live on their show, though the odd mime slides in occasionally - usually with the dance tracks. Programmes like CD:uk, T4, Pepsi Chart, they don't care about it, and miming is throughout the show.
There are other reasons why the acts mime other than their lack of ability. Some shows, like live saturday morning kids shows, just cannot technically support a live act. There is a bit more to it than just plugging it all in, and this is fair enough I suppose, though I have yet to see Holly Valance play live, which makes me suspicious about her ability, and the ability of other, similar acts.
When an act like Holly Valance mimes, she will be wearing a headset microphone to give the illusion that she is doing it for real. People in the background may even have instruments and backing singers open and close their mouths in the right places. But we can always tell it's a mime, and you would have thought that the record companies would have put that little more effort into the illusion if they were trying to fool us.
The most obvious ones (apart from dodgy sync) are:
Second tracks. Usually on the last chorus, the act sings a vocal line disjointed from the main tune, yet the original tune can still be heard. What's worse, as Holly demonstrates, that these tracks sometimes overlay, and she has a go at doing them both.
Instruments. Generally, the people that are playing behind the act can actually play. Not true for all dance acts (spot the drummer), but some. Suspiciously though, you don't always see the instruments plugged in. Electric guitars need that little lead connected up to them for them to be heard and we know it. Drums are never miced up. We're not that think, you know...
But probably the biggest giveaway is effort. You see any act live, and they get tired. You watch something like an award show where an act sings and dances, and they get tired, though you never see the mimers out of breath...
Yes, there are times when miming is accepted - like live on Rise when they don't have the time to set up like that perhaps, but if an act want to prove they can do it, then they have to do it for real.
It's just a shame that people buy the records regardless, letting the record companies think they're getting away with it.
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Cheers for making it all the way through, it was a lot longer than I thought it would be.
Slave.
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Miming a song is as pointless as pretending to fly.
The best is when a band that uses a drum machine in their songs uses a drum set for a mimed act. It makes me laugh
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I've never been a fan of pop. Most people here will know this. I don't like the way the industry takes a nobody, gives them a song and a video, then once they have made their cash they drop them and get someone else to lure the change out of the kid's pockets.
What always makes me chuckle about it though is the miming. No other music genre would be allowed to get away with it. Definately not the metal scene, that's for sure. Nirvana classicly made a point of their miming on TOTP a while back, playing no chords whatsoever on the guitars and Kurt was obviously saying 'blah, blah, blah', but apart from that, bands that feature real instruments generally play live on shows.
This is because they can. Many of the rock/metal artists you see started out as pub giggers, where the pop princesses were plucked out of the crowd for being pretty and launched into stardom.
It's pretty easy to spot a faker, the lip syncing is the usual giveaway. Some of them - the more rehearsed/established acts - do a very good job of their mime. but this is not the point. The point is that we know as a nation that a recording studio can hide a multitude of sins (Victoria Beckham), but we want to know that the singer on stage is actually capable of singing the tune they have released on their name.
Some shows have realised that this is what the people want to see. Top of the pops generally has someone actually playing live on their show, though the odd mime slides in occasionally - usually with the dance tracks. Programmes like CD:uk, T4, Pepsi Chart, they don't care about it, and miming is throughout the show.
There are other reasons why the acts mime other than their lack of ability. Some shows, like live saturday morning kids shows, just cannot technically support a live act. There is a bit more to it than just plugging it all in, and this is fair enough I suppose, though I have yet to see Holly Valance play live, which makes me suspicious about her ability, and the ability of other, similar acts.
When an act like Holly Valance mimes, she will be wearing a headset microphone to give the illusion that she is doing it for real. People in the background may even have instruments and backing singers open and close their mouths in the right places. But we can always tell it's a mime, and you would have thought that the record companies would have put that little more effort into the illusion if they were trying to fool us.
The most obvious ones (apart from dodgy sync) are:
Second tracks. Usually on the last chorus, the act sings a vocal line disjointed from the main tune, yet the original tune can still be heard. What's worse, as Holly demonstrates, that these tracks sometimes overlay, and she has a go at doing them both.
Instruments. Generally, the people that are playing behind the act can actually play. Not true for all dance acts (spot the drummer), but some. Suspiciously though, you don't always see the instruments plugged in. Electric guitars need that little lead connected up to them for them to be heard and we know it. Drums are never miced up. We're not that think, you know...
But probably the biggest giveaway is effort. You see any act live, and they get tired. You watch something like an award show where an act sings and dances, and they get tired, though you never see the mimers out of breath...
Yes, there are times when miming is accepted - like live on Rise when they don't have the time to set up like that perhaps, but if an act want to prove they can do it, then they have to do it for real.
It's just a shame that people buy the records regardless, letting the record companies think they're getting away with it.
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Cheers for making it all the way through, it was a lot longer than I thought it would be.
Slave.
What always makes me chuckle about it though is the miming. No other music genre would be allowed to get away with it. Definately not the metal scene, that's for sure. Nirvana classicly made a point of their miming on TOTP a while back, playing no chords whatsoever on the guitars and Kurt was obviously saying 'blah, blah, blah', but apart from that, bands that feature real instruments generally play live on shows.
This is because they can. Many of the rock/metal artists you see started out as pub giggers, where the pop princesses were plucked out of the crowd for being pretty and launched into stardom.
It's pretty easy to spot a faker, the lip syncing is the usual giveaway. Some of them - the more rehearsed/established acts - do a very good job of their mime. but this is not the point. The point is that we know as a nation that a recording studio can hide a multitude of sins (Victoria Beckham), but we want to know that the singer on stage is actually capable of singing the tune they have released on their name.
Some shows have realised that this is what the people want to see. Top of the pops generally has someone actually playing live on their show, though the odd mime slides in occasionally - usually with the dance tracks. Programmes like CD:uk, T4, Pepsi Chart, they don't care about it, and miming is throughout the show.
There are other reasons why the acts mime other than their lack of ability. Some shows, like live saturday morning kids shows, just cannot technically support a live act. There is a bit more to it than just plugging it all in, and this is fair enough I suppose, though I have yet to see Holly Valance play live, which makes me suspicious about her ability, and the ability of other, similar acts.
When an act like Holly Valance mimes, she will be wearing a headset microphone to give the illusion that she is doing it for real. People in the background may even have instruments and backing singers open and close their mouths in the right places. But we can always tell it's a mime, and you would have thought that the record companies would have put that little more effort into the illusion if they were trying to fool us.
The most obvious ones (apart from dodgy sync) are:
Second tracks. Usually on the last chorus, the act sings a vocal line disjointed from the main tune, yet the original tune can still be heard. What's worse, as Holly demonstrates, that these tracks sometimes overlay, and she has a go at doing them both.
Instruments. Generally, the people that are playing behind the act can actually play. Not true for all dance acts (spot the drummer), but some. Suspiciously though, you don't always see the instruments plugged in. Electric guitars need that little lead connected up to them for them to be heard and we know it. Drums are never miced up. We're not that think, you know...
But probably the biggest giveaway is effort. You see any act live, and they get tired. You watch something like an award show where an act sings and dances, and they get tired, though you never see the mimers out of breath...
Yes, there are times when miming is accepted - like live on Rise when they don't have the time to set up like that perhaps, but if an act want to prove they can do it, then they have to do it for real.
It's just a shame that people buy the records regardless, letting the record companies think they're getting away with it.
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Cheers for making it all the way through, it was a lot longer than I thought it would be.
Slave.
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