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> but what about the space surrounding the paper? thats surrounded by
> other stuff so it must also be a hole. so the hole is in the paper is
> in a hole itself which is possibly in another hole - probably toad in
> the hole
It's not surrounded by other stuff, the other stuff is in that mass of interconnected space we selfishly label the universe.
I take a piece of paper... I then stab a pen through it... I have created a hole.
This boring, I'm off.
> A hole like in the ground, polo mint or piece of wood... have
> something around the perimeter of it... i.e there is a gap in the
> soil, mint, wood which makes it a hole.
But everything has something around it so everything must be a hole.