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I lie. Me and Snuggly and our crew once did a sneaky and rented one copy from Blockbuster (on his Mum's card, natch - we were only youngsters), then did the biro trick to get it running on two PS1's yayz!
Yes, we're hardcore crims.
> Is the multiplayer on any of the Doom 3 games fun to play?
If you like Quake 3 multiplayer, this isn't too far off.
> I meant ID are dumb for having it need the original with so many
> popluar game 'expansions' being playable straight out the box without
> the original game.
I think most PC expansions require the orignals.
It's very much like the original doom multiplayer except with modern FPS conventions (like being able to look around properly instead of just facing ahead).
> Well, I can name one. Steel Battalion: Line of Contact. ;-) You
> had to have the original game with the controller to play the follow
> up. Not quite the same as the expansion pack thing, but still
> forcing people to buy another game initially. ;-)
Wasn't that the game with the ridiculous (and expensive) mech style controller? You're right, it's not the same as the expansion pack thing.
> I meant ID are dumb for having it need the original with so many
> popluar game 'expansions' being playable straight out the box without
> the original game.
>
> Although I suppose you get it all in one package it minimises sales
> and forces people who've sold the original to buy it agai if they
> want to play the expansion.
Yet, I don't quite know what's the more profitable way to be honest. An expansion pack requiring you to own the original is limiting sales to the people that own that. A stand alone at the cheaper price opens the market up substantially.
I get the impression it was easier to make the PC an expansion, whereas the Xbox version has basically been re-written, and the structure will have been changed. Hence, a stand alone product is far easier to produce. Plus as you mention, I can't think of a single console game requiring an original title. :D
Me and Tilt finished in 2 evenings worth of play, seemed to only take about 5 hours.