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Firefighters slack off work, and people die. No doubt, they expect that now a price can be put on life itself.
Does no-one understand who has replaced them? Kids, getting paid far less than firefighters get NOW. They do it why? Because they want to save lives? Because they want fame? Because they want money?
No. They're doing it because it is their duty to serve. These are the people I want as my fireservice. Not people who would have me burn should the dollar not tip their hand.
That the firefighters have stood down from their duties is, to me, disgusting, and the whole lot of them are held i contempt.
£30,000 a year? These people don't deserve to be fed pig testes.
Does no-one understand who has replaced them? Kids, getting paid far less than firefighters get NOW. They do it why? Because they want to save lives? Because they want fame? Because they want money?
No. They're doing it because it is their duty to serve. These are the people I want as my fireservice. Not people who would have me burn should the dollar not tip their hand.
That the firefighters have stood down from their duties is, to me, disgusting, and the whole lot of them are held i contempt.
£30,000 a year? These people don't deserve to be fed pig testes.
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wages are dictated by market forces of supply and demand.
the supply of incredibly talented footballers is small next to the demand for them, so if you want good players, you have to pay through your nose for them.
There is no shortage of people who can be firefighters.
the supply of incredibly talented footballers is small next to the demand for them, so if you want good players, you have to pay through your nose for them.
There is no shortage of people who can be firefighters.
Admittedly, I am highly ignorant and feel a bit out of my league in these sort of conversations because I don't watch the news all that often, but I may as well write my point of view anyway.
The dispute is over money...what a surprise! It saddens me to see people's lives put at risk because of money, especially in this way...I do feel the Firefighters are being a *little* bit greedy, maybe, but I think that the government do need to step down, at least for the moment, and give the fighters what they want so that less lives are lost.
Although, saying that, maybe they're not so greedy. It relates back to the debate of why footballers like David Beckham earn millions for kicking a ball around everyday, and why nurses/firemen/police etc, who put their lives on the line everyday, are underpaid (when being compared to the likes of Beckham anyway).
I'm probably wrong, but still.
The dispute is over money...what a surprise! It saddens me to see people's lives put at risk because of money, especially in this way...I do feel the Firefighters are being a *little* bit greedy, maybe, but I think that the government do need to step down, at least for the moment, and give the fighters what they want so that less lives are lost.
Although, saying that, maybe they're not so greedy. It relates back to the debate of why footballers like David Beckham earn millions for kicking a ball around everyday, and why nurses/firemen/police etc, who put their lives on the line everyday, are underpaid (when being compared to the likes of Beckham anyway).
I'm probably wrong, but still.
Train drivers don't even compare to Firefighters in the dnager stakes, no way. I blame them for all this anyway.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Train drivers get paid more because they are immediately responsible
> for the live of people far more often, and far more in number than any
> firefighter ever will be.
And when a train driver gets it wrong and runs a red signal (as is becoming more and more frequent), who goes to cut them all from the wreckage?
> Train drivers get paid more because they are immediately responsible
> for the live of people far more often, and far more in number than any
> firefighter ever will be.
And when a train driver gets it wrong and runs a red signal (as is becoming more and more frequent), who goes to cut them all from the wreckage?
Mr. Happy wrote:
> Mr. Happy wrote:
> Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40%
> wage
> increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give
> himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a
> greater
> value, it does seem a little hypocritical.
Obviously, personally, I thin they should have rejected the pay increase, and dumped the hundreds of thousands of spare cash into healthcare. But giving the firemen a payrise just to avoid looking hypocritical is nonsense.
> Mr. Happy wrote:
> Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40%
> wage
> increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give
> himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a
> greater
> value, it does seem a little hypocritical.
Obviously, personally, I thin they should have rejected the pay increase, and dumped the hundreds of thousands of spare cash into healthcare. But giving the firemen a payrise just to avoid looking hypocritical is nonsense.
Rosalind wrote:
> The real scum in this are the 100s of people making hoax calls at a
> time like this.
Well said. It sickens me to here that hoax calls are higher than normal at a time like this.
There really are some sick individuals out there. I hope they die in fires one day, because they are putting the lives of others at risk.
> The real scum in this are the 100s of people making hoax calls at a
> time like this.
Well said. It sickens me to here that hoax calls are higher than normal at a time like this.
There really are some sick individuals out there. I hope they die in fires one day, because they are putting the lives of others at risk.
Mr. Happy wrote:
Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40% wage
increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give
himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a greater
value, it does seem a little hypocritical.
Is what I meant to write.
Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40% wage
increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give
himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a greater
value, it does seem a little hypocritical.
Is what I meant to write.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Personally, I didn't exactly want the MPs to give themselves a pay
> rise, but just because one person gets a payrise, why should that mean
> everyone else deserves one?
Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40% wage increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a greater value.
Oh and you can't sue the fire service because they don't owe a duty of care to arrive in time, or in fact to arrive at all. Ambulances are fair game though.
> Personally, I didn't exactly want the MPs to give themselves a pay
> rise, but just because one person gets a payrise, why should that mean
> everyone else deserves one?
Yes, point accepted. BUT when a government official brands a 40% wage increase "Greedy" when he himself has just voted to give himself a pay rise of exactly the same percentage; indeed of a greater value.
Oh and you can't sue the fire service because they don't owe a duty of care to arrive in time, or in fact to arrive at all. Ambulances are fair game though.
I read what you put down, and I agree with you in terms of the union being twunts. I was under the influence of the dire need to say nasty things about goatboy at the time though, and didn't want you to taste unwarranted rage...
It because I'm a women isn't it.
I always post in these discussions and I'm always ignored.
I feel like a child trying to mussle in on an adult conversation
I always post in these discussions and I'm always ignored.
I feel like a child trying to mussle in on an adult conversation
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