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Sir Alex Ferguson was ever-persistant in his efforts to get the man he wanted - Rio Ferdinand - and it all payed-off in the end - especially for Leeds United with their £30m profit. As last-season showed-us, United were lacking that strength in the back-line we once had with the pressence of Jaap Stam, and that we needed someone else to come-in to assist with their strength and experience. And therefore Ferguson saw Rio as the only-man available capable of replacing Stam in a better-way than Blanc did. But while he was so content on getting his man, Sir Alex became unaware of the problems emerging elsewhere in the attack with Ruud van Nistelrooy as the only man available who could actually score goals from the Kick-Off, unlike Solskjaer, and unlike Diego Forlan. After Cole and now Yorke had left, we needed someone else in-order to retain the Title stolen by those French thieves from the L'Highbury.
With the new Transfer Deadline approaching fast, Ferguson rushed-into the £2m 'panic-buy' of unknown Spanish goalkeeper Ricardo, and no-one else.
I've been doing a lot of thinking recently after seeing how are side is falling apart while the Premiership Trophy seems to be drifting further-and-further-away at such and early-stage. Just how different would it all be if United HADN'T broken yet-another Transfer Record in-order to nab Rio Ferdinand from rivals Leeds United?
If Fergie hadn't had his sights-set on a new defender and a new defender only, then I think he would've come to notice the holes that had opened-up in the squad over the summer since the departure of Dwight Yorke, after Andy Cole.
The 2 may not have been on their usual good-run of goal-scoring form playing along-side van Nistelrooy, and Yorke may have even begun to look as round and plump as his son's mother's "busts", but you can't deny the quality and experience of these 2 players who are now happilly back-together, on-form, at Blackburn.
As a partnership, Cole and Yorke did it all for us - especially in The Treble Year. But with the arrival of Ruud van Nistelrooy, their relationship fell-apart, and so-too did their goal-scoring knacks, even when they were playing.
Without both Cole and Yorke, Ferguson was only left with the option of choosing either "Super Sub" Ole Solskjaer or "No-Goal" Diego Forlan as van Nistelrooy's strike-partner in the first-team. There was also, of course, the reserves to look-into, but how can anyone so-young be ready to take-on the likes of Arsenal and Barcelona on a weekly-basis? His only option would be to buy - and fast before the 31st August deadline.
It was clear to us-all, ever-since Andrew Cole departed for Blackburn, that we were in need of a Patrick Kluivert, Ronaldo, a goal-scorer who could fire-us back-up-to the top. But due to his intentions of getting Rio, Fergie was the only one who didn't see it, and time soon ran-out.
Who says we really needed Rio Ferdinand anyway?
Yes, I know...! We were all saying we desperately needed him at that start of the season, bla bla bla.... But when you look at young John O'Shea for example, a player who has been outstanding in the youth academy during the last few years, and see how incredibley-well he has adapted to life at Old Trafford, playing for Manchester United, you just have to ask yourself if he is the man we've been looking for to act as the replacement for the controversial Jaap Stam.
Judging him on his recent performances - especially in Europe - he's got the strength to hold them off, a bit of pace, the confidence, and the belief in himself that could make him a big-name in World Football during the next 5 years.
I've always had faith in him, and i've been delighted to see him given more than a chance this season, and that he's impressed and amazed us all too for such an in-experienced young talent.
After seeing O'Shea play, I have to say that I think Fergie made a needless mistake in spending the full-£30m on JUST Rio Ferdinand.
He should've opened his Scottish eyes to see we were in need of a new striker more-so than another defender.
This isn't like Sir Alex Ferguson to over-look his youngsters with money...
Where did David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and the Neville brothers all come-from??
Rather than trying to buy someone new from abroad he decided to bring in some 'new faces' who you could see were gonna be big after only a matter of minutes into their full-debuts. Why isn't he doing the same now? What's changed?
Maybe Ferguson should have left his post at the end of last season like he had originally intended to? The new manager (whoever he could've been) may have seen sense in acting like the 'Vintage Fergie' and making use of his initial assets available to him first, right infront of his nose.
Fergie was only wasting his time in signing Rio Ferdinand, the answers to all United's defensive problems were lying there, right infornt-of-him, eagerly waiting for their call. That could've been £30m well-spent on a new World Class goal-scorer, and maybe another player to go with it.
Rio Ferdinand may be World Class in his own-way, but why not do things in the same way as Harry Redknapp and find your OWN future international star by looking into the youth academys first?
Too-much chewing and not-enough doing if you ask me!
With the new Transfer Deadline approaching fast, Ferguson rushed-into the £2m 'panic-buy' of unknown Spanish goalkeeper Ricardo, and no-one else.
I've been doing a lot of thinking recently after seeing how are side is falling apart while the Premiership Trophy seems to be drifting further-and-further-away at such and early-stage. Just how different would it all be if United HADN'T broken yet-another Transfer Record in-order to nab Rio Ferdinand from rivals Leeds United?
If Fergie hadn't had his sights-set on a new defender and a new defender only, then I think he would've come to notice the holes that had opened-up in the squad over the summer since the departure of Dwight Yorke, after Andy Cole.
The 2 may not have been on their usual good-run of goal-scoring form playing along-side van Nistelrooy, and Yorke may have even begun to look as round and plump as his son's mother's "busts", but you can't deny the quality and experience of these 2 players who are now happilly back-together, on-form, at Blackburn.
As a partnership, Cole and Yorke did it all for us - especially in The Treble Year. But with the arrival of Ruud van Nistelrooy, their relationship fell-apart, and so-too did their goal-scoring knacks, even when they were playing.
Without both Cole and Yorke, Ferguson was only left with the option of choosing either "Super Sub" Ole Solskjaer or "No-Goal" Diego Forlan as van Nistelrooy's strike-partner in the first-team. There was also, of course, the reserves to look-into, but how can anyone so-young be ready to take-on the likes of Arsenal and Barcelona on a weekly-basis? His only option would be to buy - and fast before the 31st August deadline.
It was clear to us-all, ever-since Andrew Cole departed for Blackburn, that we were in need of a Patrick Kluivert, Ronaldo, a goal-scorer who could fire-us back-up-to the top. But due to his intentions of getting Rio, Fergie was the only one who didn't see it, and time soon ran-out.
Who says we really needed Rio Ferdinand anyway?
Yes, I know...! We were all saying we desperately needed him at that start of the season, bla bla bla.... But when you look at young John O'Shea for example, a player who has been outstanding in the youth academy during the last few years, and see how incredibley-well he has adapted to life at Old Trafford, playing for Manchester United, you just have to ask yourself if he is the man we've been looking for to act as the replacement for the controversial Jaap Stam.
Judging him on his recent performances - especially in Europe - he's got the strength to hold them off, a bit of pace, the confidence, and the belief in himself that could make him a big-name in World Football during the next 5 years.
I've always had faith in him, and i've been delighted to see him given more than a chance this season, and that he's impressed and amazed us all too for such an in-experienced young talent.
After seeing O'Shea play, I have to say that I think Fergie made a needless mistake in spending the full-£30m on JUST Rio Ferdinand.
He should've opened his Scottish eyes to see we were in need of a new striker more-so than another defender.
This isn't like Sir Alex Ferguson to over-look his youngsters with money...
Where did David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and the Neville brothers all come-from??
Rather than trying to buy someone new from abroad he decided to bring in some 'new faces' who you could see were gonna be big after only a matter of minutes into their full-debuts. Why isn't he doing the same now? What's changed?
Maybe Ferguson should have left his post at the end of last season like he had originally intended to? The new manager (whoever he could've been) may have seen sense in acting like the 'Vintage Fergie' and making use of his initial assets available to him first, right infront of his nose.
Fergie was only wasting his time in signing Rio Ferdinand, the answers to all United's defensive problems were lying there, right infornt-of-him, eagerly waiting for their call. That could've been £30m well-spent on a new World Class goal-scorer, and maybe another player to go with it.
Rio Ferdinand may be World Class in his own-way, but why not do things in the same way as Harry Redknapp and find your OWN future international star by looking into the youth academys first?
Too-much chewing and not-enough doing if you ask me!
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Cheers! :) Thanks SR! :D
I agree with you, we will need a centre-back who is also quite versitile. But I think we already have enough who can also play at right-back, what we need is another Silvestre who can play in the centre or out on the left. I think Escude can play in both these positions? That would make him the ideal signing - along with his experience too. All the youngsters we have who can play there are lacking big-game experience. Otherwise they'd do fine.
I agree with you, we will need a centre-back who is also quite versitile. But I think we already have enough who can also play at right-back, what we need is another Silvestre who can play in the centre or out on the left. I think Escude can play in both these positions? That would make him the ideal signing - along with his experience too. All the youngsters we have who can play there are lacking big-game experience. Otherwise they'd do fine.
Weldone on the GAD win mate.
I don't think there ever was a deal for Mexas, he just stated that Alex used to talk to him/send him cards etc I think Escude is still the target for Ferguson and a Striker, interms of centre back, Rio and O'Shea will be the partnership next season, who will cover for them? well we only have Wes, so he needs to get a another defender, hopefully someone that is flexible to play at both centre and full back.
Hopefully Fergie's been using this spare-time we have (thanks to early Champions' League Group Stage Qualification) to plan-ahead early for an early-January spending-spree. Well, as-long-as the board will give allow him to spend what he wants mind...
Whatever happened to that Mexes deal?
I was talking with someone yesterday and we both reckon we should get him as cover for Blanc before he retires so Mexes can take-over.
Whatever happened to that Mexes deal?
I was talking with someone yesterday and we both reckon we should get him as cover for Blanc before he retires so Mexes can take-over.
lalakersrule wrote:
> Guess when he was top scorer in the argentine league you missed that.
Prove it....
> Guess when he was top scorer in the argentine league you missed that.
Prove it....
I agree 100%, hopefully we will sign one or two players when the transfer window opens up again.
AbsoluT Neó wrote:
"But we indeed did buy a replacement for Cole and it was Diego Forlan - an inexperianced young striker whose never played in the prem and expected to come in and play likes he's plyed at Utd for years, but that didnt matter as we also had Yorke -- but then he goes and sell's him for peanuts?"
But if Forlan was brought-in to be the immediate replacement for Andy Cole then why wasn't he given the No.9 shirt? I only saw him as a temporary cover player for United's attack while Fergie was deciding to neglect Yorke. And yes, I think Robbie Keane could've made a difference due to his Premiership experience. But he's isn't all that-great at all-times.
By the way, did you see Yorke and Cole in the Blackburn game last-night?
I was really starting to hate Ferguson after seeing them back-together again. They really carried Blackburn all on their own, but they still lost the match. That's what we're missing. Van Nistelrooy really needs the type of player who can work with him to create a 'Yorke-and-Cole'-style partnership if we really want to challenge for all honours again.
"But we indeed did buy a replacement for Cole and it was Diego Forlan - an inexperianced young striker whose never played in the prem and expected to come in and play likes he's plyed at Utd for years, but that didnt matter as we also had Yorke -- but then he goes and sell's him for peanuts?"
But if Forlan was brought-in to be the immediate replacement for Andy Cole then why wasn't he given the No.9 shirt? I only saw him as a temporary cover player for United's attack while Fergie was deciding to neglect Yorke. And yes, I think Robbie Keane could've made a difference due to his Premiership experience. But he's isn't all that-great at all-times.
By the way, did you see Yorke and Cole in the Blackburn game last-night?
I was really starting to hate Ferguson after seeing them back-together again. They really carried Blackburn all on their own, but they still lost the match. That's what we're missing. Van Nistelrooy really needs the type of player who can work with him to create a 'Yorke-and-Cole'-style partnership if we really want to challenge for all honours again.
Primal wrote:
Forlan will never be a
> World Class striker and will never get anywhere near to becoming the
> top scorer in the Premiership or any other league.
Guess when he was top scorer in the argentine league you missed that.
Forlan will never be a
> World Class striker and will never get anywhere near to becoming the
> top scorer in the Premiership or any other league.
Guess when he was top scorer in the argentine league you missed that.
AbsoluT Neó wrote:
> But we indeed did buy a replacement for Cole and it was Diego Forlan -
> an inexperianced young striker whose never played in the prem and
> expected to come in and play likes he's plyed at Utd for years...
I can't believe that none of you can see the exact reason he bought Forlan.
It's very simple. Alex Ferguson is a very petty man, he bought Forlan simpy to stop his old assistant getting him. McClaren must be quite thankful that Ferguson did that now because Forlan will never be a World Class striker and will never get anywhere near to becoming the top scorer in the Premiership or any other league.
> But we indeed did buy a replacement for Cole and it was Diego Forlan -
> an inexperianced young striker whose never played in the prem and
> expected to come in and play likes he's plyed at Utd for years...
I can't believe that none of you can see the exact reason he bought Forlan.
It's very simple. Alex Ferguson is a very petty man, he bought Forlan simpy to stop his old assistant getting him. McClaren must be quite thankful that Ferguson did that now because Forlan will never be a World Class striker and will never get anywhere near to becoming the top scorer in the Premiership or any other league.
BTW, I'd be embarassed if I had posted such a blatant GAD attempt as this post.
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