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Wed 23/10/02 at 08:41
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Why is it that I feel so much empathy for people?

The guy who lives upstairs from me is an alcoholic. He stumbles around in the night and wakes us up, he throws up loudly every morning and makes me feel sick. I feel deeply sorry for him. My boyfriend can't understand why I feel sorry for him. My boyfriend is just annoyed by him, and the fact that I feel sorry for him, makes my boyfriend even more annoyed.

Yesterday I heard about what happened to Amy Johnson. It made me cry. I bet it did't make anyone else cry. Shouldn't my incessant video gaming have de-sensatized me to things like this by now?

I can't bare anyone to be dissapointed. It gives me an awful hollow feeling inside.

I can't look at the shocking picture of chemical and biological warfare victims that appear in the papers, because I wouldn't be able to stop myself crying.

Sometimes I feel that I have no right to be happy unless every one in the world is happy. I feel guilty when I am happy.

I feel guilty every time I walk past a homeless person. Especially because I have so much and I don't give something to everyone of them.

I wonder if there is something wrong with me that I feel this way. I don't know anyone else who feels this "World Pain".
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:35
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She didn't turn to alcohol to ease her problems - she is like many of you here that used to have a glass of wine now and then. She did not used to go out on benders every Fri night - she was a "normal" person - much like many other alcoholics out there.

Alcohol is a drug - it is addictive - that is fact. Addictions can take over people - wether it be to Cigarettes, alcohol, chocolate whatever. Different people have different chemical / biologocal make ups and this is why some people can be heavy drinkers all there lives whilst others become alcohlics and dependent on whatever it is they need. Studies seem to be indicating that it is actually something to do with the sugars that are present after the fermentation process but studies are ongoing at the moment.

Maybe you should try to learn abit more about it before posting your sweeping statements.
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:27
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What Bartender said is exactly my point. People should not turn to drugs or alcohol to solve their problems, for it can only make them far worse.
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:25
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And before Flanders decides I'm having a go at his missus, when I say "fault", i don't mean "they deserve what they get because they brought it upon themselves", I'm merely saying that life has better answers than those to which people often turn.

People who experience trauma and turn to alcohol, drugs or self-mutilation often do so because they are ot well enough advised on how to deal with their pain, and so although their addiction is attributable to themselves, those closest to them are also partly responsible.
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:20
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There is no logic in attempting to ease your pain by turning to substances on which you eventually become dependant, and ultimately only prolong your suffering.

There is much truth in "it's their own fault".

Fault should be used very loosely however. For example most homeless people in the UK choose to live that way, and several profit from it enormously. So when these people come to me begging sympathhy, it should not come as a surprise to them when all they receive is contempt.

Back to the title post, I have no great feeling for mankind. When I hear that someone has died, i simply run through a series of statistical probabilities, trying to estimate how long I have left, given the rate others are perishing.
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:20
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cookie monster wrote:
> I think i feel sorry for you for feeling sorry for the drunk. I really
> cant empathise with alcoholics and drug addicts, its their own fault
> that they are in the state they are in.

What a ridiculously crass statement that is.

As I have mentioned here before my wife was / is an alcoholic - she hasn't had a drink for three years now fortunately. It was not her fault - she went through some traumatic experiences and the alcohol took over - it is a drug - alcoholism is recognised as an illness and there are moves underway to have alcoholism recognised as a disibilty.

Not all alcholics are homeless tramps that sleep in doorways drinking meths you know.

I have been through the pain and suffering of living with an alcohlic - it's not a nice experience. Alcoholics need understanding so that they can have the courage to face up to the fact that they have a problem that is curable. Good on you for feeling sympathy Ros - The best thing for any Alcoholic is to get to AA - only about 25% that get to AA actually can become dry - the rest normally die - I have known at least 8 people that have died through alcoholism in the last two years alone.
Wed 23/10/02 at 10:11
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Goatboy wrote:
> Possibly one of the most blanket statements I've ever read here.
> "it's their own fault"

Is it not? I believe it is them who are throwing the pills/drink down their throat.
Wed 23/10/02 at 09:55
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Possibly one of the most blanket statements I've ever read here.
"it's their own fault"
Wed 23/10/02 at 09:45
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Nomad Soul wrote:
> You shouldn't be so quick to judge cookie. Many people who turn to
> drugs and drink are in pain. The trigger for their pain could've been
> beyond their control. His man might have experienced horrible things.

I think we have all experienced pain, but we are not all drug addicts and alcoholics.
Wed 23/10/02 at 09:40
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cookie monster wrote:
> I really cant empathise with alcoholics and drug addicts, its their own fault that they are in the state they are in.

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You shouldn't be so quick to judge cookie. Many people who turn to drugs and drink are in pain. The trigger for their pain could've been beyond their control. His man might have experienced horrible things.
Wed 23/10/02 at 09:29
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I think i feel sorry for you for feeling sorry for the drunk. I really cant empathise with alcoholics and drug addicts, its their own fault that they are in the state they are in.

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