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"Yay! Upgrading time!"

Okey.

Running currently:

P3 450
384 MB Ram
Matrox G400
Some crappy motherboard that's crap.

I want:

P4 something.
Lots of Ram
Really decent graphics card
Decent motherboard.

I have limited money.

Any ideas on what I should go for? Any recommendations on motherboards, graphics cards?

..you know, eBuyer's stuff is cheap for a reason...

if a mobo does the job right, and is stable then its good :p

Heh, The Alimighty, thats where I got my stuff :p granted I bought the hdd, dvd drive and ram in September, but the rest was bought yesterday :p

still got no idea how you got those prices.

please tell me you didn't buy their brand Ram..please.

If you are looking for cheaper chips then go for an athlon system, if you are looking for good overclockability go for Pentium 4, i also found the my pentium 4 2.0ghz northwood (running at 2.8ghz) so much more stable than my old athlon xp system and for divx decoding and most multimedia it is so much quicker than my athlon as well, Pentium 4's have a larger front side bus (400 or 533mhz) to AMD's Xp chips (266 mhz) and at the moment AMD's ram will only go up to 400mhz max DDR and pentium have the 533 mhz rimm ram, also athlon xp's only have 256k L2 cache when the pentium 4 northwood has 512mb L2 cache (both on-die), the AMD thouroughbread has 512k level 2 cache though.

c.b.

I'd have thought they built Intel because Intel chips have bigger numbers and are easier to flog to the punters, but hey...

Well, I can't see that mobo anywhere, but placing it at about £60, that's about right for that spec without a monitor..

> XP2000+ (plus heatsink and fan) - £77
> 256 DDR Ram - £42
> KS75A motherboard - £60
> 60GB 7200rpm IBM HDD - £78
> Floppy Drive - £7
> Radeon 9000 128MB Graphics - £65
> Panasonic DVD drive - £39
> Case, fan and power supply - £10 > £250..
> 4 port PCI USB hub - £20

Comes to £400ish..

Not going in to AMD vs Intel, but for me, AMD have the right combination of price and performance, and decent overclocking opportunities, hence, I use them...Place I work will only ever build Intel PCs, for reliability, but I can't say I've ever really had problems with AMDs..

The Almighty wrote:
> I got:
>
> XP2000+ (plus heatsink and fan)
> 256 DDR Ram
> KS75A motherboard
> 60GB 7200rpm IBM HDD
> Floppy Drive
> Radeon 9000 128MB Graphics
> Panasonic DVD drive
> Case, fan and power supply
> 4 port PCI USB hub
>
> All for £375 delivered.

How did you get these prices???

mine:

XP1600+ (heatsink/fan)
512Mb Sdram
Soltek 75KAV motherboard
40Gb 7200rpm IBM hdd
floppy drive
Radeon VE 64Mb (SDram)
DVD drive
Case, PSU

Delivered for £360

And it took me ages to find these prices :p

§n][pe® wrote:
> A mobo isnt the most significant component tho it is the most
> needed......the processor, RAM, etc determines how fast it goes.....
> really.
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Motherboard is what decids what your allowed to have :p Also, I don't think a £100 board would be the same quality as a £30 one, but yes, a good CPU, RAM, HDD, Gfx card are needed for a good PC.. but a good motherboard helps..

lol tbh i have a crap mobo dunno what brand but its pretty stable.......... and fast none the least.

You've obviosuly never used a PackardBell MediaManager 2.