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Watched Red Dragon last night.
Quick capsule review: Terrible film, waste of good source material and a shoddy remake of the existing version.
Good things about it?
Emily Watson. I've seen her in Breaking The Waves and a couple of other movies and she continues to give good performances in otherwise bad films. Red Dragon is no exception.
Ted Tally, the screenwriter for Silence of The Lambs did this one, so I initially had high hopes for it. But I should have known it was going to be bad when I heard the casting for this one.
In the book, the character breakdowns are thus:
Will Graham - A man burnt out, weary from his experiences and haunted by previous cases. Enjoying his middle-aged seclusion in Florida with wife and stepchild. Originally played by William Peterson. Who is it this time?
Edward Norton. A good actor for sure, but playing a middle-aged burn-out? He looks about 25 in Red Dragon and displays no weariness at all, no sense he's been through the ringer. He's perky, chipper "Hi! I'm an FBI agent!"
Francis Dolarhyde - A muscular, blond, 6'3" man with a hairlip. A quiet, powerhouse of a man uncomfortable around others and consumed by innner demons. Played originally by Tom Noonan. In this version?
Ralph Fiennes. A 5'10" weedy Englishman with a brown buzzcut hairdo and a small scar to indicate his hairlip.
So casting threw me. I love Red Dragon, it's one of the most compact, well written thrillers of recent times. Contains set-pieces to die for, expert characterisations and a sense of frustration in trying to catch Dolarhyde.
Manhunter, directed by Michael Mann in 1980-something, is a superb realisation of this book.
Sure, it's full of typical Mann-erisms like blue filters and artfully arranged shots but it does a good job of getting inside the characters and is underplayed.
Red Dragon is cheesy, OTT "And-here-is-a-plot-point" style that lacks any kind of sense of dread or urgency.
What I dont get is how they included most of the major points of the book, but drained them of any interest of excitement.
The opening of Manhunter has Graham and Crawford on a beach staring out to sea. Crawford is trying to convince Graham to come back and is met with hostility and repressed fear. When Crawford lays pictures of the families down and says "If you can't look anymore, I understand" - Graham takes an age to pick them up, refusing to turn them over until he's gathered himself.
Red Dragon? "Hi Crawford!" "Here are some pics" "Damn, they look like nice families"
There's no sense of "I dont want to do this but I have no choice", it's "I must stop this evil maniac because, goshdarnit, somebody has to".
In the book, Dolaryhde goes to the Brooklyn Musuem to eat the Blake painting, to consume The Dragon and take control of his destiny. He eats the painting and leaves, on his way out the security desk phone is ringing and he is trying to get out before the guard picks up the phone. It describes how everything goes into slow-motion as he tries to get out before the phone is picked up. A sense of drama and "will he/wont he?"
The movie? He scoffs the pic and just strolls out smiling.
Nice waste of potential.
And the ending?
Manhunter differs to the book but it works.
Book version: Dolaryde sets fire to his house, leaves Reba in there and blows his head off with a shotgun. She escapes, everything is resolved. Graham goes back to Florida to his family. A few days later, he's out in the dunes with his stepson and Dolarhyde appears from nowhere, drives a knife into his cheek before being killed. Graham is taken to hospital where Crawford explains that Dolarhyde blew the head off someone else and hid, making sure Reba got out alive and then came for Graham. There's a real shock when Dolarhyde appears with a knife, you think "How the ###?".
A potential for a damn good shock/suprise ending for the movie.
So what happens in Red Dragon?
The house burns, Reba escapes and Graham goes back to Florida.
The family is enjoying a quiet night and then Crawford gets a call saying it wasn't Dolarhyde that burned in the house.
He phones Graham to warn him, who has just gone into his house to see why his son hasn't come back out.
So the audience is aware that Dolarhyde is in there with the son as Graham goes in. You know he's not in any danger at all, so Dolarhyde appears and blah blah blah, they shoot each other and Graham's wife finishes off Dolarhyde.
That's exactly why Red Dragon doesn't work. There's no sense of surprise to any of it. Instead of having Dolaryhde appear from nowhere and BAM!, you get the standard "Don't go into the house!" set-up and happy ending.
Ralph Fiennes is horribly miscast in this. He's not bothered by his hairlip, wheras in the book and Manhunter, Dolarhyde covers his lip with his knuckle when talking and is shy. Fiennes is just "Hello! You like my tattoo?". In Manhunter, after sleeping with Reba, Dolarhyde lays there in the night and puts her hand over his disfigured mouth and quietly cries himself to sleep. There's a sense he's tortured about how he feels about her, how he cant believe someone doesn't find him repulsive.
Red Dragon? Nothing at all. They get it on and that's that.
Red Dragon is a bad remake of Manhunter and, worse than that, is a waste of bloody good source material.
Taken as non-related to the "Lecter Series", it's a 2nd rate thriller that does nothing new and adds nothing to the genre.
But bearing in mind it's the originator of the whole Lecter trilogy,it's a crime to have made such a lazy movie and squander every opportunity possible.
Avoid.
Quick capsule review: Terrible film, waste of good source material and a shoddy remake of the existing version.
Good things about it?
Emily Watson. I've seen her in Breaking The Waves and a couple of other movies and she continues to give good performances in otherwise bad films. Red Dragon is no exception.
Ted Tally, the screenwriter for Silence of The Lambs did this one, so I initially had high hopes for it. But I should have known it was going to be bad when I heard the casting for this one.
In the book, the character breakdowns are thus:
Will Graham - A man burnt out, weary from his experiences and haunted by previous cases. Enjoying his middle-aged seclusion in Florida with wife and stepchild. Originally played by William Peterson. Who is it this time?
Edward Norton. A good actor for sure, but playing a middle-aged burn-out? He looks about 25 in Red Dragon and displays no weariness at all, no sense he's been through the ringer. He's perky, chipper "Hi! I'm an FBI agent!"
Francis Dolarhyde - A muscular, blond, 6'3" man with a hairlip. A quiet, powerhouse of a man uncomfortable around others and consumed by innner demons. Played originally by Tom Noonan. In this version?
Ralph Fiennes. A 5'10" weedy Englishman with a brown buzzcut hairdo and a small scar to indicate his hairlip.
So casting threw me. I love Red Dragon, it's one of the most compact, well written thrillers of recent times. Contains set-pieces to die for, expert characterisations and a sense of frustration in trying to catch Dolarhyde.
Manhunter, directed by Michael Mann in 1980-something, is a superb realisation of this book.
Sure, it's full of typical Mann-erisms like blue filters and artfully arranged shots but it does a good job of getting inside the characters and is underplayed.
Red Dragon is cheesy, OTT "And-here-is-a-plot-point" style that lacks any kind of sense of dread or urgency.
What I dont get is how they included most of the major points of the book, but drained them of any interest of excitement.
The opening of Manhunter has Graham and Crawford on a beach staring out to sea. Crawford is trying to convince Graham to come back and is met with hostility and repressed fear. When Crawford lays pictures of the families down and says "If you can't look anymore, I understand" - Graham takes an age to pick them up, refusing to turn them over until he's gathered himself.
Red Dragon? "Hi Crawford!" "Here are some pics" "Damn, they look like nice families"
There's no sense of "I dont want to do this but I have no choice", it's "I must stop this evil maniac because, goshdarnit, somebody has to".
In the book, Dolaryhde goes to the Brooklyn Musuem to eat the Blake painting, to consume The Dragon and take control of his destiny. He eats the painting and leaves, on his way out the security desk phone is ringing and he is trying to get out before the guard picks up the phone. It describes how everything goes into slow-motion as he tries to get out before the phone is picked up. A sense of drama and "will he/wont he?"
The movie? He scoffs the pic and just strolls out smiling.
Nice waste of potential.
And the ending?
Manhunter differs to the book but it works.
Book version: Dolaryde sets fire to his house, leaves Reba in there and blows his head off with a shotgun. She escapes, everything is resolved. Graham goes back to Florida to his family. A few days later, he's out in the dunes with his stepson and Dolarhyde appears from nowhere, drives a knife into his cheek before being killed. Graham is taken to hospital where Crawford explains that Dolarhyde blew the head off someone else and hid, making sure Reba got out alive and then came for Graham. There's a real shock when Dolarhyde appears with a knife, you think "How the ###?".
A potential for a damn good shock/suprise ending for the movie.
So what happens in Red Dragon?
The house burns, Reba escapes and Graham goes back to Florida.
The family is enjoying a quiet night and then Crawford gets a call saying it wasn't Dolarhyde that burned in the house.
He phones Graham to warn him, who has just gone into his house to see why his son hasn't come back out.
So the audience is aware that Dolarhyde is in there with the son as Graham goes in. You know he's not in any danger at all, so Dolarhyde appears and blah blah blah, they shoot each other and Graham's wife finishes off Dolarhyde.
That's exactly why Red Dragon doesn't work. There's no sense of surprise to any of it. Instead of having Dolaryhde appear from nowhere and BAM!, you get the standard "Don't go into the house!" set-up and happy ending.
Ralph Fiennes is horribly miscast in this. He's not bothered by his hairlip, wheras in the book and Manhunter, Dolarhyde covers his lip with his knuckle when talking and is shy. Fiennes is just "Hello! You like my tattoo?". In Manhunter, after sleeping with Reba, Dolarhyde lays there in the night and puts her hand over his disfigured mouth and quietly cries himself to sleep. There's a sense he's tortured about how he feels about her, how he cant believe someone doesn't find him repulsive.
Red Dragon? Nothing at all. They get it on and that's that.
Red Dragon is a bad remake of Manhunter and, worse than that, is a waste of bloody good source material.
Taken as non-related to the "Lecter Series", it's a 2nd rate thriller that does nothing new and adds nothing to the genre.
But bearing in mind it's the originator of the whole Lecter trilogy,it's a crime to have made such a lazy movie and squander every opportunity possible.
Avoid.
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You wont regret it, promise.
And you like Hopkins because it was the 1st experience of Lecter, wheras my 1st was with Brian Cox.
But Hopkins, in fact, licks balls.
It's the truth yo.
And you like Hopkins because it was the 1st experience of Lecter, wheras my 1st was with Brian Cox.
But Hopkins, in fact, licks balls.
It's the truth yo.
Goatboy wrote:
> >
> Trust me, if you haven't seen Manhunter, go and buy it. It's so much
> better than Red Dragon.
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Well, OK, I will. Then I'll be back and ready to argue about Hopkins.
> >
> Trust me, if you haven't seen Manhunter, go and buy it. It's so much
> better than Red Dragon.
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Well, OK, I will. Then I'll be back and ready to argue about Hopkins.
Manhunter is a classic film and the peformance of Brian Cox is very understated yet threatening. Personaly I found both Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal ludicrously unchilling. Why? Hammybal Lecter. The whole premise of either film only works if you fear him. I didn't and wouldn't be so readily crying like a baby a la Foster if I was talking to the gadge.
Red Dragon: another wishy washy Hollywood film. What next a re-make of Chopper staring Steve Guttneburg?
Porno: with Keanu Reeves as Begbie?
No!
Red Dragon: another wishy washy Hollywood film. What next a re-make of Chopper staring Steve Guttneburg?
Porno: with Keanu Reeves as Begbie?
No!
*chuckles*
That's exactly who he is. "Liquid...magma Clarice..."
That's exactly who he is. "Liquid...magma Clarice..."
It's just hit me - Lecter has turned into Dr Evil!
"Get away from me you lazy-eyed psycho!"
"Get away from me you lazy-eyed psycho!"
I have to say, hand on heart, that I really haven't liked Hopkins as Lecter in any of the films.
Mainly because I'm such a fan of the books, heard they were making Silence and thought "Fantastic" - and that film is excellent apart from Hopkins.
Lecter is described as highly intelligent, extremely well-mannered and civilised. He is the cutting edge of class and behaviour, his whole deal is being this acutely polite and well behaved genius - who just happens to be absolutely insane and dangerous.
When I saw Hopkins in the reveal in Silence, and he started to speak I thought "Mmmm..ok then." but as he went on, I found him irritating.
Hopkins is a good actor and it's a good portrayal, just not of Hannibal Lecter. He's too obviously insane, all googly-eyed whispering psycho. It's blatantly obvious he's mental - if you went to see him as his patient and he started that whispering, mad-eyed act you'd run away.
But with the novel Red Dragon and Manhunter, Lecter is a minor character. I realised exactly what kind of film Red Dragon was going to be when they plastered Hopkins all over the poster and had him so prominently in the trailer. But hey, you have to sell it to the folks that don't know the book so I understand that.
And I think that's what bugged me about Red Dragon as a movie - it's taken the set-pieces from the book and dumbed them down. Removed any of the ideas or interesting bits and played it straight as a "Lecter" movie. Complete with the amusing ending leading into Silence of The Lambs.
The novel, and Manhunter, is a study of obsession and the idea of being driven, against your will, to perform in a way that you find alien and offensive.
Whether it be Dolarhyde believing he's "becoming" or Graham confronting his old demons and trying to catch Dolarhyde.
There's none of that in Red Dragon at all. There's no sense that Dolarhyde really doesn't want to do what he's doing but he has no choice.
It's just Fiennes with a tattoo being mental. The only time you even get an indication of his mind is when he's staring out the window at Reba saying "No,you can't have her".
Whereas in Manhunter (I'll leave the novel alone because that merits a massive post by itself), you see Dolarhyde being torn apart by the things he has to do. Trusting Reba enough to let her touch him and sleep with him. Holding her hand to his face in the middle of the night and crying, standing in front of her the next morning and, in a little child's speech patterns "When...can I...see you again?" looking at the floor and being nervous. He has no confidence as a man, which is where The Red Dragon serves him. He draws strength and confidence from his fantasy, without The Dragon he is a "snivelling little harelip".
When he sees Reba kiss Ralph Mandy goodnight (in a totally innocent way), he's watching in his van. We see them kiss goodnight and Ralph leave, but it then shows us the same situation from Dolarhyde's point of view - they are passionately kissing and the music is romantic - before snapping back to reality and she's "Goodnight Ralph, thanks for the ride". Dolarhyde is in his van in tears, she betrayed his love and trust (she didn't but he's mental) and you see him lock down his sadness as he rips the dashboard to pieces.
You get the sense that Dolarhyde is alone and confused, vulnerable and desperately in need of human contact in Manhunter, someone to reach to him not as a freak but as a man. And when it happens, he's relieved and upset and hopeful and sad.
Red Dragon, to me, just showed another cinema-nutter with a tattoo being mental with no glimpse at him as a person (apart from 1 rubbish "No no" scene with Fiennes in his loft, but there had been no explanation as to his relationship to the painting and The Red Dragon).
Trust me, if you haven't seen Manhunter, go and buy it. It's so much better than Red Dragon.
Mainly because I'm such a fan of the books, heard they were making Silence and thought "Fantastic" - and that film is excellent apart from Hopkins.
Lecter is described as highly intelligent, extremely well-mannered and civilised. He is the cutting edge of class and behaviour, his whole deal is being this acutely polite and well behaved genius - who just happens to be absolutely insane and dangerous.
When I saw Hopkins in the reveal in Silence, and he started to speak I thought "Mmmm..ok then." but as he went on, I found him irritating.
Hopkins is a good actor and it's a good portrayal, just not of Hannibal Lecter. He's too obviously insane, all googly-eyed whispering psycho. It's blatantly obvious he's mental - if you went to see him as his patient and he started that whispering, mad-eyed act you'd run away.
But with the novel Red Dragon and Manhunter, Lecter is a minor character. I realised exactly what kind of film Red Dragon was going to be when they plastered Hopkins all over the poster and had him so prominently in the trailer. But hey, you have to sell it to the folks that don't know the book so I understand that.
And I think that's what bugged me about Red Dragon as a movie - it's taken the set-pieces from the book and dumbed them down. Removed any of the ideas or interesting bits and played it straight as a "Lecter" movie. Complete with the amusing ending leading into Silence of The Lambs.
The novel, and Manhunter, is a study of obsession and the idea of being driven, against your will, to perform in a way that you find alien and offensive.
Whether it be Dolarhyde believing he's "becoming" or Graham confronting his old demons and trying to catch Dolarhyde.
There's none of that in Red Dragon at all. There's no sense that Dolarhyde really doesn't want to do what he's doing but he has no choice.
It's just Fiennes with a tattoo being mental. The only time you even get an indication of his mind is when he's staring out the window at Reba saying "No,you can't have her".
Whereas in Manhunter (I'll leave the novel alone because that merits a massive post by itself), you see Dolarhyde being torn apart by the things he has to do. Trusting Reba enough to let her touch him and sleep with him. Holding her hand to his face in the middle of the night and crying, standing in front of her the next morning and, in a little child's speech patterns "When...can I...see you again?" looking at the floor and being nervous. He has no confidence as a man, which is where The Red Dragon serves him. He draws strength and confidence from his fantasy, without The Dragon he is a "snivelling little harelip".
When he sees Reba kiss Ralph Mandy goodnight (in a totally innocent way), he's watching in his van. We see them kiss goodnight and Ralph leave, but it then shows us the same situation from Dolarhyde's point of view - they are passionately kissing and the music is romantic - before snapping back to reality and she's "Goodnight Ralph, thanks for the ride". Dolarhyde is in his van in tears, she betrayed his love and trust (she didn't but he's mental) and you see him lock down his sadness as he rips the dashboard to pieces.
You get the sense that Dolarhyde is alone and confused, vulnerable and desperately in need of human contact in Manhunter, someone to reach to him not as a freak but as a man. And when it happens, he's relieved and upset and hopeful and sad.
Red Dragon, to me, just showed another cinema-nutter with a tattoo being mental with no glimpse at him as a person (apart from 1 rubbish "No no" scene with Fiennes in his loft, but there had been no explanation as to his relationship to the painting and The Red Dragon).
Trust me, if you haven't seen Manhunter, go and buy it. It's so much better than Red Dragon.
I'll agree with the Norton not showing the character of being tortured. Evgen though I hadn't seen Manhunter, it said in the film he's supposed to be tortured. Instead he smugly goes about his business and teaches his wife to shoot.
But I won't agree about Hopkins. I think he's brilliant in Silence of the Lambs and in this. Not in Hannibal though. Crap movie. He really does steal the screen when he comes on. And from someone who had neither read the book nor seen Manhunter, I enjoyed seeing Ralph Fiennes run about thinking he sacrifices people to a painting and stab people with mirrors when usually he's being a poncy touchy-feely English Patient type of guy. Didn't look too deeply, just enjoyed it.
Don't you even think Hopkins is good in Silence of the Lambs?
But I won't agree about Hopkins. I think he's brilliant in Silence of the Lambs and in this. Not in Hannibal though. Crap movie. He really does steal the screen when he comes on. And from someone who had neither read the book nor seen Manhunter, I enjoyed seeing Ralph Fiennes run about thinking he sacrifices people to a painting and stab people with mirrors when usually he's being a poncy touchy-feely English Patient type of guy. Didn't look too deeply, just enjoyed it.
Don't you even think Hopkins is good in Silence of the Lambs?
I watched Manhunter again today, just to see how they differ. I'd not normally compare two films, but they're both from the same book so it's fair to.
Although Manhunter does have its faults, it's still head and shoulders above Red Dragon, for some of the reasons here:
The tiger scene:
Manhunter - Dolarhyde takes Reba to the zoo, she caresses and hugs the tiger, listening to it's heartbeat and smiling. Over her shoulder you can see Dolarhyde leaning against the wall, lost in his own fantasy. He closes his eyes and is swept away in his private world - it's a very sensous and
sexual scene.
Red Dragon - Dolarhyde takes Reba to the zoo. She cups it's balls and says "You there D?" "Yep". There's no reaction from Fiennes, no emotion, no sense that he's experiencing sexual emotions from watching her be this close to a sleek, dangerous creature capable of killing a human being without thought.
Freddy Lounds being snatched by Dolarhyde:
Manhunter - Lounds is terrified, he's sobbing and tearful and panicky, his voice cracks and he begs for his life.
Red Dragon - Lounds sits there in his pants and chats to him. Philip Seymour Hoffman rules, but in his pants chatting to The Dragon? Nah
Lecter hospitalising Graham:
Manhunter - Graham relates the story to his step-son as they shop for groceries. The kid is scared and frightened of Graham, asks him questions because the kids at school tease him about his dad - he wont leave his mum alone with Graham until he knows what's going on. This whole scene is one long take, with Graham explaining to a kid about how he caught Lecter and how he couldn't deal with "Lecter's thoughts in my head, I stopped talking to people so they put me in hospital. It took me a long time to get better again, to want to talk to anyone". It establishes a bond between Graham and his stepson, it's also the 1st time Graham has probably spoken about what happened.
Red Dragon - Pre-credit sequence. It's graphic and shows how creepy loony-eyed Lecter is. No mention made again of it at all.
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I think my problem with Red Dragon is that at no point was I convinced that Norton's character was troubled by anything that had happened. There was no indication that he had any mental problems projecting himself into the minds of serial killers - which was the whole point of the character.
And what Red Dragon lost, and this is the heart of the book, was the idea of Graham and Dolarhyde being very similar people. Both driven by thoughts that are alien to them, both compelled to act against their will in their destinies.
Red Dragon boiled it down to "Maniac must be stopped"
Manhunter conveyed the idea of Graham and Dolarhyde being linked together, and I didnt get that at all from Red Dragon.
Maybe if I hadn't have read the book so often and if I hadn't have been a massive Manhunter fan I might think differently. But as a person that loves the book and thinks Manhunter is one of the best "Serial Killer" movies made, I didn't get any enjoyment from Red Dragon.
But hey, horses for courses.
And I'm not even going to dignify mentioning Hopkins in any context except to say that he's taken the character of Hannibal Lecter and reduced him to a fatty-grandad washing-machine repair man.
Cox's Lecter is cold, ruthless, fiercely intelligent, restrained and full of disdain for what he perceives as weakness in Graham.
Hopkins is a wild-eyed pantomime villain that needs to laid to rest now please.
Shame really, could've been a really good film.
If you haven't seen Manhunter, go buy it on DVD - it's less than a tenner and it's 100% better than Red Dragon.
Although Manhunter does have its faults, it's still head and shoulders above Red Dragon, for some of the reasons here:
The tiger scene:
Manhunter - Dolarhyde takes Reba to the zoo, she caresses and hugs the tiger, listening to it's heartbeat and smiling. Over her shoulder you can see Dolarhyde leaning against the wall, lost in his own fantasy. He closes his eyes and is swept away in his private world - it's a very sensous and
sexual scene.
Red Dragon - Dolarhyde takes Reba to the zoo. She cups it's balls and says "You there D?" "Yep". There's no reaction from Fiennes, no emotion, no sense that he's experiencing sexual emotions from watching her be this close to a sleek, dangerous creature capable of killing a human being without thought.
Freddy Lounds being snatched by Dolarhyde:
Manhunter - Lounds is terrified, he's sobbing and tearful and panicky, his voice cracks and he begs for his life.
Red Dragon - Lounds sits there in his pants and chats to him. Philip Seymour Hoffman rules, but in his pants chatting to The Dragon? Nah
Lecter hospitalising Graham:
Manhunter - Graham relates the story to his step-son as they shop for groceries. The kid is scared and frightened of Graham, asks him questions because the kids at school tease him about his dad - he wont leave his mum alone with Graham until he knows what's going on. This whole scene is one long take, with Graham explaining to a kid about how he caught Lecter and how he couldn't deal with "Lecter's thoughts in my head, I stopped talking to people so they put me in hospital. It took me a long time to get better again, to want to talk to anyone". It establishes a bond between Graham and his stepson, it's also the 1st time Graham has probably spoken about what happened.
Red Dragon - Pre-credit sequence. It's graphic and shows how creepy loony-eyed Lecter is. No mention made again of it at all.
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I think my problem with Red Dragon is that at no point was I convinced that Norton's character was troubled by anything that had happened. There was no indication that he had any mental problems projecting himself into the minds of serial killers - which was the whole point of the character.
And what Red Dragon lost, and this is the heart of the book, was the idea of Graham and Dolarhyde being very similar people. Both driven by thoughts that are alien to them, both compelled to act against their will in their destinies.
Red Dragon boiled it down to "Maniac must be stopped"
Manhunter conveyed the idea of Graham and Dolarhyde being linked together, and I didnt get that at all from Red Dragon.
Maybe if I hadn't have read the book so often and if I hadn't have been a massive Manhunter fan I might think differently. But as a person that loves the book and thinks Manhunter is one of the best "Serial Killer" movies made, I didn't get any enjoyment from Red Dragon.
But hey, horses for courses.
And I'm not even going to dignify mentioning Hopkins in any context except to say that he's taken the character of Hannibal Lecter and reduced him to a fatty-grandad washing-machine repair man.
Cox's Lecter is cold, ruthless, fiercely intelligent, restrained and full of disdain for what he perceives as weakness in Graham.
Hopkins is a wild-eyed pantomime villain that needs to laid to rest now please.
Shame really, could've been a really good film.
If you haven't seen Manhunter, go buy it on DVD - it's less than a tenner and it's 100% better than Red Dragon.
I haven't seen this yet, so I didn't read this post, but I had to tell you that I bought Manhunter for £5 on DVD from HMV the other day.
Haven't seen it yet, but plan to before I see Red Dragon.
Haven't seen it yet, but plan to before I see Red Dragon.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I've since realised that Hannibal is honestly the gayest film ever, not in an insulting way. It's very gay.
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