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Fri 27/09/02 at 18:24
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Nintendo being more approachable and eager to please the western market. If so, why sell Rare? I know they get a huge amount of cash to plow back into companies, like Dringo keeps on saying, and the Japanese don't care about the Xbox or Rare. But we do.

PD2 and Kameo on the XBox is A) Annoying B)Disappointing, but more importantly C)Still not worth me buying one. ;) I don't really mind, as I wasn't that interested in it, and as far as I'm concerned, if Nintendo has all these other 2nd parties making superb games, thats fine. But the 'average Joe' everybody goes on about does not. Rare, and more importantly, Perfect Dark, are one of the few things that the un-enlightened (!) people played an N64 for. Now, with all the talk of Nintendo trying to be more pleasing to the West, they go and sell the company that was actualy perhaps the main attraction for those un-decided to approach the Gamecube. Sure, we all know Silicon Knights, Retro Studios, Camelot and all them can produce blinding games, but 'they' don't and Nintendo need to promote this far more if they are to 'replace' Rare in the minds of the consukmer as being 'cool'.

Like I said, Nintendo can do this with the huge wads of cash they've recieved, but will they? How long? It'll take years to repair that bridge, and this seems very contradictory to their recent proposals of treating Europe especialy better - Not 'us - we know about all the fantastic titles soon available, but the average consumer dosen't and Rare and its games were one of the few things they did know about, and actualy liked about the N64.

Of course, Rares output was pathetic in terms of releases, but they caused a stir simply because they were great games. I'm not saying that other companies aren't as good (Nintendo and Sega are both better, and several of the aforemntiond companies have equal amounts of talent - all for the GC) but they, perhgaos with the exception of Nintendo and Sega, do not thave the 'common image' that is in the 'average consumers' mind. Of course, Nintendo is 'kiddy' and Sega is not an exclusive prize, so Nintendo need to flaunt some very good, very western games soon, and make these companies like Silicon Knights and Retro Studios well know outside of these gaming circles, as all thsi seems to contradict the policy Nintendo was coming up with about the West, and especialy Europe.

Otherwise, the XBox will gain much needed ground on the GC, and we might not have an effective reply, to say to all those people 'outside the circles' that the GC has 'such and such a game', like we could with PD.

Cheers.
Fri 27/09/02 at 19:20
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In all honesty I think the 'average joe' gamer (in my experience anyway) recognised Goldeneye more than PD... I thought PD was a huge improvement on Goldeneye, but many of the 'average joe' people don't know the names of developers, and many assumed the next bond game was going to be done by the same people... PD wasn't seen by the 'average joe' gamer as the sequel to Goldeneye in my experience...
Fri 27/09/02 at 19:05
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"everyone says it"
Posts: 14,738
Whitestripes wrote:
> I'm sure that after the release of Metroid Prime Retro Studies will
> become a 'household' name, esspecially as it uses a popular exsisting
> Nintendo franchise

A very good point!
Fri 27/09/02 at 18:49
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Kameo that weird one where you turn into dinosaurs? I have seen clips of that and I certainly won't be missing it.
Fri 27/09/02 at 18:33
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I'm sure that after the release of Metroid Prime Retro Studies will become a 'household' name, esspecially as it uses a popular exsisting Nintendo franchise.
Fri 27/09/02 at 18:24
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Posts: 18,825
Nintendo being more approachable and eager to please the western market. If so, why sell Rare? I know they get a huge amount of cash to plow back into companies, like Dringo keeps on saying, and the Japanese don't care about the Xbox or Rare. But we do.

PD2 and Kameo on the XBox is A) Annoying B)Disappointing, but more importantly C)Still not worth me buying one. ;) I don't really mind, as I wasn't that interested in it, and as far as I'm concerned, if Nintendo has all these other 2nd parties making superb games, thats fine. But the 'average Joe' everybody goes on about does not. Rare, and more importantly, Perfect Dark, are one of the few things that the un-enlightened (!) people played an N64 for. Now, with all the talk of Nintendo trying to be more pleasing to the West, they go and sell the company that was actualy perhaps the main attraction for those un-decided to approach the Gamecube. Sure, we all know Silicon Knights, Retro Studios, Camelot and all them can produce blinding games, but 'they' don't and Nintendo need to promote this far more if they are to 'replace' Rare in the minds of the consukmer as being 'cool'.

Like I said, Nintendo can do this with the huge wads of cash they've recieved, but will they? How long? It'll take years to repair that bridge, and this seems very contradictory to their recent proposals of treating Europe especialy better - Not 'us - we know about all the fantastic titles soon available, but the average consumer dosen't and Rare and its games were one of the few things they did know about, and actualy liked about the N64.

Of course, Rares output was pathetic in terms of releases, but they caused a stir simply because they were great games. I'm not saying that other companies aren't as good (Nintendo and Sega are both better, and several of the aforemntiond companies have equal amounts of talent - all for the GC) but they, perhgaos with the exception of Nintendo and Sega, do not thave the 'common image' that is in the 'average consumers' mind. Of course, Nintendo is 'kiddy' and Sega is not an exclusive prize, so Nintendo need to flaunt some very good, very western games soon, and make these companies like Silicon Knights and Retro Studios well know outside of these gaming circles, as all thsi seems to contradict the policy Nintendo was coming up with about the West, and especialy Europe.

Otherwise, the XBox will gain much needed ground on the GC, and we might not have an effective reply, to say to all those people 'outside the circles' that the GC has 'such and such a game', like we could with PD.

Cheers.

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