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Sun 01/09/02 at 13:26
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Do you beleive man actually walked on the moon? This is a debatable question as there are many things which could make it all made up.

When you look at the pictures of the moon and the United States of America flag you will notice that the flag is waving in the wind but there is no wind on the moon!! Perhaps it was all set up at area 51 in the middle of the arizona desert? was it windy that day? and in the pictures there are no stars in the background! where did they all go!

I also think that there is a thing like the Ozone layer around the moon which is radioactive or something and it would kill humans who came in contact with it and also which I should mention why hasn't any one visited the moon since 1969? that is 33 years and man hasn't went back up to the moon.

There was also a program on before which I watched and they said a russian spy plane or something like that seen the lines where the props were to go. What do you think?
Tue 03/09/02 at 11:51
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Mr Ripper wrote:
> JFK shot himself by coming back through time via an alternate reality,
> as explained in detail in Red Dwarf.

Yeah, but he certainly wasn't shot by Lee Harvey Oswald as a lone gunman.
There's nothing wrong with a healthy mistrust of government and the 'official line'.
Sometimes conspiracy theories can play their part in uncovering the truth.
Tue 03/09/02 at 11:25
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No, we didn't go to the moon

JFK shot himself by coming back through time via an alternate reality, as explained in detail in Red Dwarf.

Nuclear weapons don't exist, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were staged so that governments the world over could funnel "research" funds into offshore accounts.

Area 51 has live aliens captured from Roswell.

Elvis lives

Princess Diana was killed as part of a covert MI5 operation to silence her from speaking out against the royal family.

There was no plane that crashed into the pentagon on september 11th, this was also staged.


IF YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THE ABOVE STATEMENTS, YOU ARE BENEATH CONTEMPT.
Tue 03/09/02 at 09:11
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There may be some evidence to suggest that the moon landings were hoaxed, but on the other hand, there's a massive crater load of evidence to suggest that they DID go.

Someone said that some of the 'on the surface photos' have be doctored, and I think this is definately the case, but NASA probably did that just for aesthetic reasons.
Tue 03/09/02 at 09:01
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Look at it like this, if in no other way.

Could a writer sell a book about going to the moon today ? No.
Could a writer sell a book about not going to the moon in the post "X Files-big brother-everything is a conspiracy-nonsense" today ? Yes.

People who would otherwise get no attention can get it by coming up with some halfbaked theory. In most cases, these people are nobodies, they have few qualifications other than the ability to pay out cahs to witnesses who'll say what pays. A lot of people so desperately want to think they are part of an elite group who know "the truth".

Well, America went to the moon. Leaving aside the technical parts of the story, why, if it was all faked, didn't America go to the moon earlier than planned ? Why did they only fake two guys landing and not more ? How woul you fake a signal that was confirmed as coming from the surface of the moon ? Why do so little once you faked yourself there ? How do you fake several labs studying material for months that carbon dating and other methods proved as being from the moon's surface ?

Those kinds of questions don't make good selling books, do they ?

~~Belldandy~~
Mon 02/09/02 at 17:52
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Having read through that, i must say i'm still not convinced.
While many pieces of evidence suggsting it didn't happen weren't dealt with, a lot of the guy's arguments were a little suspect.
Given everything he said about the guy who made the original page being out to prove his point regardless of 'evidence', the writer's attitude, nit-picking and occasional clutching at straws strongly suggests he was working to exactly the same agenda.

I'll take a look at some of the sites he linked to sometime soon. At least until then, i've seen nothing i consider conclusive either way, but sufficient stuff to keep doubt in my mind.
Sun 01/09/02 at 21:07
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http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu /~jscotti/NOT_faked/

Remove the space, read the pages, forget this argument in this topic.

~~Belldandy~~

PS They didn't use the suits at Chernobyl because, for those who missed it, Russia wasn't great friends with the USA back then, Cold War anyone ? :P
Sun 01/09/02 at 16:53
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no we didn't go, those dozy americans just love to believe their own hype. All evidence of fabrication, apart from what we have now, will be gone. The theory extends to alledged assassinations by the US government. We'll never know the truth though. I definitely believe it to be a hoax though.

Heres one guys opinion that really did it for me :

If those space suits were able to withstand such radiation, why were they not implemented in the cherynobyl or american nuclear disasters ?

(I forget name of american place where it happened)
Sun 01/09/02 at 16:52
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Skull kid wrote:
> When you look at the pictures of the moon and the United States of
> America flag you will notice that the flag is waving in the wind but
> there is no wind on the moon!!
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The flag has a lil stick in it so its always sticking out.
Oh god the innuendo
Sun 01/09/02 at 15:53
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I dont think man walked on the moon.Theres too much evidence to prove they didnt
Sun 01/09/02 at 13:53
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Skull kid wrote:
> I also think that there is a thing like the Ozone layer around the
> moon which is radioactive or something and it would kill humans who
> came in contact with it and also which I should mention why hasn't any
> one visited the moon since 1969? that is 33 years and man hasn't went
> back up to the moon.

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I think it's called the Van Allen Belt.
Many people (including scientists) have stated that it was impossible to travel through this radiation belt in the Apollo crafts without the astronauts suffering massive radiation poisoning.
There's no doubt either that the Apollo photographs have been doctored - many photos show unnatural illuminations and shadows at differing angles.
Also when Neil Armstrong was manually landing the Apollo 11, his voice was very calm and the incredibly noisy rumble of the booster rockets could not be heard whatsoever.
There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that man has not been to the moon in the Apollo crafts.

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