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Well Well Sony and MS drop the price of there already very affordable machines this can only be a bad thing for GC as no-one can buy a GC and seperate DVD player for £159 or £169.
As I have stated countless times before the GC is cheap because it is a cheap piece of technology.
Facts
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format 4.5gig dvd 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none Yes needs controller Yes out of the box
10 million 90 million 20 million
polys per second polys per second polys per second
Dolby 5.1 none Dolby 5.1 yes Dolby 5.1 yes
Serial ports USB, Opitical, ethernet USB, firewire,Optical
480 x 640 1172 x 800 at least 1172 x 800 at least
These are a few examples and just go to show why the GC is cheaper than the other two console because it's old hat technology, the one bit of modern technology is not worth having the custom 1.5 discs (Resi Evil on two disc so yesterday) are a waste of time and only designed so that Nintendo can charge the publishers more for custom tooling.
As I have stated countless times before the GC is cheap because it is a cheap piece of technology.
Facts
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format 4.5gig dvd 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none Yes needs controller Yes out of the box
10 million 90 million 20 million
polys per second polys per second polys per second
Dolby 5.1 none Dolby 5.1 yes Dolby 5.1 yes
Serial ports USB, Opitical, ethernet USB, firewire,Optical
480 x 640 1172 x 800 at least 1172 x 800 at least
These are a few examples and just go to show why the GC is cheaper than the other two console because it's old hat technology, the one bit of modern technology is not worth having the custom 1.5 discs (Resi Evil on two disc so yesterday) are a waste of time and only designed so that Nintendo can charge the publishers more for custom tooling.
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Tiltawhirl wrote:
> guys get your head out of your ar$es.
I can't bend that way!!
> guys get your head out of your ar$es.
I can't bend that way!!
The true facts, based on actual performance:
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format ; 4.5gig dvd ; 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none ; Yes needs remote ; Yes out of the box
With graphical effects:
10-15 million ; 20 million ; Less than 5 million
polys per second ; polys per second ; polys per second
Dolby 5.1 with compatible games ; Dolby 5.1 with compatible games ; Dolby 5.1 NO
Resolution isn't even an argument because TV's can only do one resolution, 640 x 480. To get a higher resolution you either have to use one of those switch boxes to use your PC, use a projector or an HDTV. Even then, no console gives support.
As for 'cheap' technology, the PS2 is the cheapest console to make, yet Sony still charge the most for it. Talk about consumer friendliness :).
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format ; 4.5gig dvd ; 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none ; Yes needs remote ; Yes out of the box
With graphical effects:
10-15 million ; 20 million ; Less than 5 million
polys per second ; polys per second ; polys per second
Dolby 5.1 with compatible games ; Dolby 5.1 with compatible games ; Dolby 5.1 NO
Resolution isn't even an argument because TV's can only do one resolution, 640 x 480. To get a higher resolution you either have to use one of those switch boxes to use your PC, use a projector or an HDTV. Even then, no console gives support.
As for 'cheap' technology, the PS2 is the cheapest console to make, yet Sony still charge the most for it. Talk about consumer friendliness :).
Dave RJR wrote:
This is all "head in the sand" stuff.
No GAMES console, see that it plays games. Since when has a console needed DVD capabilities?
Oh I just got involved in this stupid argument, guys get your head out of your ar$es. No one cares about your stupid biased commentts. Everyone likes different consoles get over it...
This is all "head in the sand" stuff.
No GAMES console, see that it plays games. Since when has a console needed DVD capabilities?
Oh I just got involved in this stupid argument, guys get your head out of your ar$es. No one cares about your stupid biased commentts. Everyone likes different consoles get over it...
NaS†Ÿ_Nêighßoû® wrote:
> let me just show you the image processing functions that GC can go,
> alo if you want new technology i hope you dont have a PS2 as its 2
> years dated and graphics and stuff changes fast in computer gaming.
>
> Fog,Subpixel anti-aniasing, 8 hardware lights, alpha blending, virtual
> texture design, multi-texturing, bump mapping, envoronment mapping,
> mip mapping, bilinear filtering, trilinear filtering, antisotropic
> filtering, real-time hardware texture decompression (S3TC), real-time
> decompression of display unit, HW 3-line deflickering filter.
>
> Plus i heard that one of those cant be used on PS2 becuase it uses
> the lens diffrently and DVDs wont work with it, something like that.
>
> Thats why Xbox has 2 Trays becuase then they can use it, i dont know i
> read it in a mag on laucnh day of the 2 new consoles.
All well and good, but why do the XBox games look almost identical to PS2 games. Reason, most are ports. Its the same images just converted to XBox format - and many dont launch until after the PS2 version.
> let me just show you the image processing functions that GC can go,
> alo if you want new technology i hope you dont have a PS2 as its 2
> years dated and graphics and stuff changes fast in computer gaming.
>
> Fog,Subpixel anti-aniasing, 8 hardware lights, alpha blending, virtual
> texture design, multi-texturing, bump mapping, envoronment mapping,
> mip mapping, bilinear filtering, trilinear filtering, antisotropic
> filtering, real-time hardware texture decompression (S3TC), real-time
> decompression of display unit, HW 3-line deflickering filter.
>
> Plus i heard that one of those cant be used on PS2 becuase it uses
> the lens diffrently and DVDs wont work with it, something like that.
>
> Thats why Xbox has 2 Trays becuase then they can use it, i dont know i
> read it in a mag on laucnh day of the 2 new consoles.
All well and good, but why do the XBox games look almost identical to PS2 games. Reason, most are ports. Its the same images just converted to XBox format - and many dont launch until after the PS2 version.
Its people who havent play amazing games that actually then have to throw out the old extras and things that dont matter to gaming in to the topic as they havent realised how good gaming can be.
I have a gamecube and couldn't care less about dvd players, If a console washed the floor, done your homework and cleaned your room but had rubbish games, would it make it best??
No!
It's the gameplay that counts and gamecube has the best gameplay around.
So, itdoesn't play dvds but what it does offer is great games and entertainment.
That's the nintendo difference!
No!
It's the gameplay that counts and gamecube has the best gameplay around.
So, itdoesn't play dvds but what it does offer is great games and entertainment.
That's the nintendo difference!
let me just show you the image processing functions that GC can go, alo if you want new technology i hope you dont have a PS2 as its 2 years dated and graphics and stuff changes fast in computer gaming.
Fog,Subpixel anti-aniasing, 8 hardware lights, alpha blending, virtual texture design, multi-texturing, bump mapping, envoronment mapping, mip mapping, bilinear filtering, trilinear filtering, antisotropic filtering, real-time hardware texture decompression (S3TC), real-time decompression of display unit, HW 3-line deflickering filter.
Plus i heard that one of those cant be used on PS2 becuase it uses the lens diffrently and DVDs wont work with it, something like that.
Thats why Xbox has 2 Trays becuase then they can use it, i dont know i read it in a mag on laucnh day of the 2 new consoles.
Fog,Subpixel anti-aniasing, 8 hardware lights, alpha blending, virtual texture design, multi-texturing, bump mapping, envoronment mapping, mip mapping, bilinear filtering, trilinear filtering, antisotropic filtering, real-time hardware texture decompression (S3TC), real-time decompression of display unit, HW 3-line deflickering filter.
Plus i heard that one of those cant be used on PS2 becuase it uses the lens diffrently and DVDs wont work with it, something like that.
Thats why Xbox has 2 Trays becuase then they can use it, i dont know i read it in a mag on laucnh day of the 2 new consoles.
Oh for Gods sake!
I have a DVd player. So i don't need another one!
Simple!
I have a DVd player. So i don't need another one!
Simple!
Dave RJR wrote:
>I am a Dipstick
We all agree.
>I am a Dipstick
We all agree.
Syphonical wrote:
> Dave RJR wrote:
> Leading on from that, people might
> like the idea of having 2 dvd players in their house. One
> downstairs,
> one upstairs - wow what a novel idea.
>
>
> What's so novel??
> I have a dvd player in my room, my sister has one and we have one
> downstairs!
It was a sarcastic statement, because it just cant get over how most GC owners just brush the fact that their console doesn't have dvd under the carpet. Comments like, who needs dvd anyway, buy a gamecube and separate dvd player, and most people don't care about the lack of dvd. This is all "head in the sand" stuff.
> Dave RJR wrote:
> Leading on from that, people might
> like the idea of having 2 dvd players in their house. One
> downstairs,
> one upstairs - wow what a novel idea.
>
>
> What's so novel??
> I have a dvd player in my room, my sister has one and we have one
> downstairs!
It was a sarcastic statement, because it just cant get over how most GC owners just brush the fact that their console doesn't have dvd under the carpet. Comments like, who needs dvd anyway, buy a gamecube and separate dvd player, and most people don't care about the lack of dvd. This is all "head in the sand" stuff.
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