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Tue 27/08/02 at 13:05
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With Microsoft and the Xbox getting so much negative press, and only having a small percentage of the home console market, it still amazes me why. I own a PS2, Xbox and GameCube. I read 3 specialist magazines and one multiformat, Edge. Yet, with all these cries of the Xbox getting no good games, it has one hell of a lot more good looking games than the PS2 or Cube. By nature, I'm a Cubist, but I'm getting a bit too annoyed now at the number of people slating the Xbox. It's a great console, with great capabilities, and the future for the Xbox looks a lot brighter than the PS2 or Cube. At least for the Xbox, all the online stuff, online games and what not has been sorted, and by the end of the year I'll be playing Knights of the Old Republic online while you misfortunate others will be playing 2 player Pro Evolution 2 and sniggering to each other that the PS2 will be online 'sometime next year'. As if. The PSone screen was meant to come out half way through last year, and, oh look, a year delayed. Not good omens then for the PS2 modem and broadband adaptors. They've not even got any connection details or information sorted yet. As for GameCube, that's not even confirmed!

The Xbox has got loads of great games, amazing Microsoft support and quite a few diehard fans. Just because it isn't the most widespread console, it doesn't mean there are no good games and it's going to die next year. The Xbox has its future sorted, and a brilliant campaign from Microsoft this Christmas could mean many more sales. That would certainly wipe the smiles off your faces.

Grow up, y'all.
Tue 27/08/02 at 15:01
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"PC Gaming Founder"
Posts: 2,136
Dave RJR wrote:
> PS2 has loads of AA and AAA titles due out on the run up to xmas. Much
> more then XBox or GameCube.

What a load of crap, get out of here you complete idiot.

½pint, notice that you've concentrated mainly on the online potential of X-Box, which is all very well and good if you want to play online! As for me, I'll leave the online experience for my PC and use the Gamecube for enjoyable, original 1-player gaming. :)
Tue 27/08/02 at 14:56
"Stupid Newbie :D"
Posts: 550
Personally I don't think Christmas is the right time to be releasing a broadband ONLY online feature for a console, too small a percentage of the UK currently has access to broadband, which will seriously harm X-Box sales because it is completely incompatible with 56K or normal lines. Another thing that's going to blow up in their face is the monthly fee for using X-Box Live, granted you get your first year free when you fork out £40 for the software, but most people tend to see past marketing gimmicks and look at what it's going to cost them in the long run. Which if memory serves was £72 per annum, on top of the £40 you'll pay for the DVD, so there are as many drawbacks and downfalls to MS's plan as there are advantages. That is down to someone useless being left incharge of planning things.

I'd rather they do as Sony and Nintendo are doing, and leave broadband till some point next year, at which time the coverage in the UK will have increased and the prices for installment/upkeep will have decreased. Makes far more business sense, but then I suppose at the end of the day, the younger audience aren't going to have as much patience in the matter. Course if they had the reasons pointed out to them by a PR spokesperson, I'd wager they'd understand... but then Microsoft aren't exactly patient themselves.
Tue 27/08/02 at 14:22
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Posts: 1,106
PS2 has loads of AA and AAA titles due out on the run up to xmas. Much more then XBox or GameCube. The broadband On line issue will be to new to make a difference until next year. Even then, PS2 has more launch games with OnLine play, and going on line with PS2 looks like it could be cheaper than with XBox Live. In any case, cost will still keep many people out of on line, and broadband availability will also be a big factor - like in the UK, it's got poor coverage.
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:48
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"Chavez, just hush.."
Posts: 11,080
MS had a bad start due to the 'Microsoft are crap' comments that were circulating...

Xbox Live will be a great feature but only once ADSL prices have dropped.

At the moment, you can either buy 10 BRAND NEW Xbox games or just have ADSL internet. The prices equal themselves out!

Personally, I'd have 10 new games instad of playing online but once the prices for broadband come down, I can see it being a great success, if a little slow to start.
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:28
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
Posts: 5,347
I would eexpect MS's marketing machine to kick in, inm the not too distant future...

Given that this is their first console venture they are still getting the feel of the land...

As Ive said several times before, don't forget that MS's IE, Word, and OS were all openly knocked and ridiculed on release, were all seen as poor performers that Microsoft had made a mistake, and that their image would hinder their success...

Then several years on they are the standard software packages in their respective markets...

Just because MS isnt like Sony or Nintendo or SEGA doesnt mean that they are out of the water so soon... they are a highly intelligent, versitile company, especially given their size...

Only a fool would knock MS at this stage of the game, we'll, at the very least, need to see how the consoles fare this Christmas
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:21
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"no longer El Blokey"
Posts: 4,471
XBOX has a bad image.

That's not gonna change.
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:15
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Posts: 1,106
Most people want PS2. It's as simple as that.
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:09
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"Acid Casual"
Posts: 3,038
Replace the word X-Box with N64 and you will get a fair indication of where it will be in 12 months time.

Nice ideas but unless sales pick up no amount of spec or features is gonna help.
Tue 27/08/02 at 13:05
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"¬_¬"
Posts: 3,110
With Microsoft and the Xbox getting so much negative press, and only having a small percentage of the home console market, it still amazes me why. I own a PS2, Xbox and GameCube. I read 3 specialist magazines and one multiformat, Edge. Yet, with all these cries of the Xbox getting no good games, it has one hell of a lot more good looking games than the PS2 or Cube. By nature, I'm a Cubist, but I'm getting a bit too annoyed now at the number of people slating the Xbox. It's a great console, with great capabilities, and the future for the Xbox looks a lot brighter than the PS2 or Cube. At least for the Xbox, all the online stuff, online games and what not has been sorted, and by the end of the year I'll be playing Knights of the Old Republic online while you misfortunate others will be playing 2 player Pro Evolution 2 and sniggering to each other that the PS2 will be online 'sometime next year'. As if. The PSone screen was meant to come out half way through last year, and, oh look, a year delayed. Not good omens then for the PS2 modem and broadband adaptors. They've not even got any connection details or information sorted yet. As for GameCube, that's not even confirmed!

The Xbox has got loads of great games, amazing Microsoft support and quite a few diehard fans. Just because it isn't the most widespread console, it doesn't mean there are no good games and it's going to die next year. The Xbox has its future sorted, and a brilliant campaign from Microsoft this Christmas could mean many more sales. That would certainly wipe the smiles off your faces.

Grow up, y'all.

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