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Fri 09/08/02 at 12:42
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Now. Can I just say that the whole idea of re-incarnation is positively laughable.

You are born. Born with nothing but physical genetic memory to guide you. You don't know how to use the muscles in your body properly, you don't know how to interpret what your eyes tell your brain you are seeing. You can't count, you can't talk, and even if you could you have no comprehension of any language.

You can't control your bowels, hand movements or neck. All you know is bright light hurts, and boob sucking is good.

Now, if you'd lived before, do you not perhaps think that you'd have a little more control over what you were doing?

Popping out of the womb and declaring "Woah momma, you should wash down there once in a while" hasn't, to my knowledge, ever happened.

Re-incarnation can only seem to work if you forget EVERYTHING you ever experienced. Now, wiping the slate clean to that extent, with no possibility to recover the memory, and putting you in a completely different environment means that you will be a different person.

Ipso facto, re-incarnation, the rebirth of the soul in a new body, is a complete load of pants.

Unless of course everyone comes back as a snail, and for some reason loses all sense what ecactly should be seen walking along the pavement in the rain, and what the chances are of survival when the fellow "still-humans" walk past.

Or are they fish? Perhaps, certainly fish try to communicate with humans once in a while, more often than not by running away or eating your arm, but that could be seen as contempt for humans having found peace in their new life.

No. Actually I don't believe that for a second.

Essentially then, the "soul" doesn't really exist. The whole idea of "soul" seems to me to be a way of saying that our personalities are fixed, and regardless of what environment we were raised in, we would be the same as the imprint given us by the "soul".

This is pants.

Obviously, if you have no soul, you can't go to heaven, if no-one has a soul, no-one can go to heaven. If no-one can go to heaven, heven doesn't exist. No heaven, no hell.

I imagine no gods either.

Straying from the point though.

Re-incarnation is a laughable concept.

IB
Fri 09/08/02 at 13:03
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
and these souls are of course manufactured in the "Acme Soul Factory™".

do these souls have warrantees? or insurance? Nothing lasts forever. do souls have an equivalent of the AA for when they break down?
Fri 09/08/02 at 13:02
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"everyone says it"
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It depends really on whether you believe we are born with our senses or not. As reincarnation for some people is the soul of you being transferred to another physical-engine. Soul's don't have memory or anything and are defined as incorporeal substances.

Personally, I believe we grow up and live on sense experience right from birth, I believe the hand you use first is the one which you then later use to write with and so on... I don't believe in reincarnation. The balance isn't right.
Fri 09/08/02 at 13:01
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Mr Ripper wrote:

> Let me have my fun.

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Heh

Reincarnation is totally believable.
It's the idea of a single godhead that makes me laugh.

Christian Schmistian, I'm down with Kali
Fri 09/08/02 at 13:01
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New souls for the faith Sheepy :0)
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:59
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I was thinking about this... if re-incarnation happened... losing memory or not surely there would be the same amount of people since the start of time... but the world's population keeps growing... errr yeah.
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:59
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Accepted Goatboy.

But take a moment to look at how the original post was written. I'm quite obviously looking for argument here.

Let me have my fun.
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:57
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"Infantalised Forums"
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I'm not saying you have to believe anything.

What I dont understand is your rabid attacks on anyone that thinks differently to you.
I'm not having a pop, I'm in far too good a mood for that and, despite the occasionaly fur-raising, I like your posts.

I just have a problem getting past that whole "I say this and therefore it is true and you may not disagree" thing you sometimes seem to be.

But hey, just my opinion
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:57
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"Acid Casual"
Posts: 3,038
Showing you proof would unfortunately involve having to kill you.
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:55
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
show me proof of re-incarnation, and i'll be willing to believe it.

show me proof of heaven, and I'll believe it.

show me proof of hell, and i'll believe it.

show me proof of ghosts, and i'll believe it.

I'm not going to believe something so radical just because someone "says so".
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:55
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Laughs @ Goatboy you have a very valid point there :0)

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