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Wed 07/08/02 at 09:02
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This article was posted at IGN:

"GameCube Beating Xbox
But not for long, say analysts.

August 06, 2002 - According to a Reuters report released today, Nintendo's next-generation GameCube console has amassed a considerable hardware sales lead over Microsoft's Xbox platform since the two systems debuted worldwide. But this could be a short-lived lead if analysts are to be believed.
GameCube has sold through 4.8 million pieces of hardware around the globe compared to 3.8 million Xbox units, cited a study conducted by the Ziff Davis Media Game Group, which polled some 2,000 videogame players.

Interestingly, though, the study also showed that 15 percent of those surveyed wanted to buy an Xbox compared to just nine percent GameCube. Based on those results, the Media Group projected that Xbox will see a total installed base rise to 13.7 million homes globally in 2003 versus 11.2 GameCube owners in the same year.

More as it becomes available."


So the X-Box should be picking up soon.
Notice however that that leaves 76% (Probably mostly PS2).

This will stop all the "Gamecube is doing better" ... "No. X-Box is doing better" posts.

Also Bioware games are now exclusive to the X-Box.
Sun 11/08/02 at 17:01
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Uh oh, I've sparked off a Nintendo vs. Microsoft fight. I see your point garbe123. I do keep an open mind in ALL the forums I visit though, not just X-Box.
Fri 09/08/02 at 00:22
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Mantis wrote:
> The impression i got from ganespots preview of the finished japenese
> game was that its very good just not the revolution everyone expected
> it to be.

That serves them right for expecting a Mario 64 style revolution.
Games aren't moving into 3D so there isn't scope for that sort of revoultion. Halo never had that sort of expectation weighed upon it.


> Methinks if Halo was on GC eveyone round he would hail it as the best
> thing ever, but because it on Xbox, people put it down.

I don't. I played it with an open mind and enjoyed it (not the first time I played it, but once I found out how to change the controls, it was great fun).

I would get it only getting the Xbox, 4 pads, the game and a link up cable would cost around 300 quid. I think I could get more from 300 quids worth of GC games.
Fri 09/08/02 at 00:15
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er-no wrote:
> Gamecube is doing a lot better currently than the XBox

Not really, 4 million xboxs to 5 million GCs. Japan is causing Xbox alot of problems, europe is doing alrite now and Xbox is doing good in the US.

If Xbox, or indeed GC gets that killer game, sales will soar.
Fri 09/08/02 at 00:14
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Mantis wrote:
> The impression i got from ganespots preview of the finished japenese
> game was that its very good just not the revolution everyone expected
> it to be.
>
> Methinks if Halo was on GC eveyone round he would hail it as the best
> thing ever, but because it on Xbox, people put it down.

Not really. My opinion would still be the same. Its an excellent game, but in no way perfect, and I shouldn't be saying that because Bungie were originally making it for the Macintosh!
Fri 09/08/02 at 00:10
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The impression i got from ganespots preview of the finished japenese game was that its very good just not the revolution everyone expected it to be.

Methinks if Halo was on GC eveyone round he would hail it as the best thing ever, but because it on Xbox, people put it down.
Fri 09/08/02 at 00:00
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Fact is. Halo isn't that good. I missed shooting humans and also the levels were too big. That is actually (yes i know) a criticism of the game. At times I find myself running around and managing somehow getting to where I was meant to go?! I just accepted it but at the time all I was doing was getting annoyed and running.

:| 9/10 though. :)
Thu 08/08/02 at 23:48
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Hmmm...

Mario Sunshine has done as much, if not more, to the Platformer as Halo has to the FPS.

Yes, it doesn't completely revolutionise 3D gaming like Mario 64 did but was it meant to?

Halo, took the best of current FPS, added a few neat ideas and tricks and took the genre forward. Mario Sunshine has taken the base of Mario 64, improved on it incredibly (as good as Mario 64, the worlds first proper 3D platformer wasn't going to be perfect the first time round).

The level design has been cleverly done, the control of Mario has been polished to absolute perfection while the adding of the water gun has given a fresh new twist to the gameplay.

Its like the difference between Super Mario Brothers on the Nes (a revolutionary game redifining the platforming genre), and Super Mario World on the Snes (not quite so revolutionary but a hell of a lot better from smoother gameplay, new ideas to more imaginative and cleverly designed levels).


Anyway, the battle between the Xbox and Gamecube is almost irrelevant.
The Gamecube is unique in it's original quirky fun games like Pikmin.
It also has the cream of other genres but these unique little gems are it's main selling point.

The Xbox is competing against the PS2.
Both consoles go for realistic games and like to think of themselves as "mature". A different market to the Gamecube.

The result?

The Gamecube will get comfortable "middling" sales - enough for a VERY tidy profit but no market domination.

It won't outsell the winner of the PS2 Vs Xbox battle but will leave the other one in the dust.

Currently, the PS2 is trouncing the Xbox, down to the fact that it's been around for longer and has picked up a strong library of games.
I personally think that the Xbox is much better than Sony's machine but that doesn't mean that the rest of the world think so.
Thu 08/08/02 at 23:46
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Gamecube is doing a lot better currently than the XBox, and if Microsoft do complete what rumours suggest and release a smaller version than this current XBox will die. You can never believe what analysts say, they never take into account the games. Probably the same anal-syts that predicted the Dreamcast to a great success.

Do you see.
Thu 08/08/02 at 23:36
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Mantis wrote:
> I read a preview of Mario Sunshine n Gamespot and all 3 previews
> basicly said "its no Mario 64".
>
> Improvments mean hes got a jetpack but its still in the Mario 64 vein.
> They said it isn't genre breaking like its N64 predocessor, its the
> same good ol mario.

I read an indepth played preview by Cube, a review by gamesradar and a review by NGC and they say it is awesome, incredible, it is original enough to feel fresh and familiar enough to feel mario, 8 years worth the wait.
Thu 08/08/02 at 23:09
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I read a preview of Mario Sunshine n Gamespot and all 3 previews basicly said "its no Mario 64".

Improvments mean hes got a jetpack but its still in the Mario 64 vein. They said it isn't genre breaking like its N64 predocessor, its the same good ol mario.

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