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Every day at least 10 new topics are on about how good PS2`s are.
They MAY have sold more they MAY have more games but both can be explained.
They have sold more because they have been out longer and also because it was out first ppl brought it because at the time it was the only console that was 128bit. (ok dreamcast was out but due to dire sales of saturn no one trusted it)
It also has more games because when developers make games they will release it on a PS2 to be avalible to a huge gaming community (which has been disscused in great detail, no sorry to much detail.)
but now more and more ps2 owners are going about saying how good it is instead of playing it. Why? well thats what i want to find out.
first of all forget the fact it plays DVDs because this forum is for games and also it isnt like film companies are making their DVDs to be played on a PS2 in fact they dont care what they are played on.
So its down to the games.
First i admit when it first came out the games looked good but prehaps it was because i hadnt seen such good graphics on a console before and was just relying on the graphics too much. then there was a spell when genraly 1 good game came out with about 9 bad ones so it was in a 1 to 10 chance of getting a good game. then for some reason a load of good games came out for it at once and i thought ahh its started the big games come out to play but once again they soon dryed out and it was back to bad ones.
so i look ahead in the gaming sceduals and i (personaly) only see a few games which i would actually buy but then some of them are multi-format.
So al in all in the next year or so i only see about 15 good games will be out on the ps2 maybe 10 if u dont count the multi format ones.
I know we all have our own personal opinons and some of you may like a lot of the games on it.
so here is a servay i did with freinds on each console
PS2
games out at the moment - around 250
games predicted to be out at end of 2003 - 475
number of games we would buy (if we had the money) - 23 (including soon to be released ones)
Xbox
games out at the moment - 200 (before christmas)
games in the pipe line - 300 (total 500)
amount of games we would buy (if we had the console) - 5(including soon to be released ones)
GC
games out at the moment - 100
games to be realeased - no idea but from the games we have heard about Mario, zelda and metriod prime to name a few it looks good
games we would get - 36 (including soon to be released ones)
The fact is no one is intrested in how many units its sold (i never noticed a diffence in gameplay from when i brought my GC to now)
and nor does anyone care how many games it has (although if plans go ahead Xbox will have more soon) because people wont buy rubbish games (i dont hear anyone talking about how good off road : wide open is) so it may aswell not be released.
And before any one comes up saying well if GC is so good why arnt u playing urs. its because my mates are playing on it.
so PS2 owners go get playing ur sooooo amazing PS2`s or i suppose you could try telling me games, which are exclusive to PS2, that match up to the gameplay of games such as:
star wars rouge leader
luigis mansion
super smash bros melee
just to name a few.
also you may use ones due to be released but if you do ill start showing you the games due to be released on GC.
now excuse me im of to pre order resi evil 0
Boz (a GC owner) would like to thank - sarah, tim, dave and mike (ps2 owners) and jade, "gazza" and paul(GC owners).
They MAY have sold more they MAY have more games but both can be explained.
They have sold more because they have been out longer and also because it was out first ppl brought it because at the time it was the only console that was 128bit. (ok dreamcast was out but due to dire sales of saturn no one trusted it)
It also has more games because when developers make games they will release it on a PS2 to be avalible to a huge gaming community (which has been disscused in great detail, no sorry to much detail.)
but now more and more ps2 owners are going about saying how good it is instead of playing it. Why? well thats what i want to find out.
first of all forget the fact it plays DVDs because this forum is for games and also it isnt like film companies are making their DVDs to be played on a PS2 in fact they dont care what they are played on.
So its down to the games.
First i admit when it first came out the games looked good but prehaps it was because i hadnt seen such good graphics on a console before and was just relying on the graphics too much. then there was a spell when genraly 1 good game came out with about 9 bad ones so it was in a 1 to 10 chance of getting a good game. then for some reason a load of good games came out for it at once and i thought ahh its started the big games come out to play but once again they soon dryed out and it was back to bad ones.
so i look ahead in the gaming sceduals and i (personaly) only see a few games which i would actually buy but then some of them are multi-format.
So al in all in the next year or so i only see about 15 good games will be out on the ps2 maybe 10 if u dont count the multi format ones.
I know we all have our own personal opinons and some of you may like a lot of the games on it.
so here is a servay i did with freinds on each console
PS2
games out at the moment - around 250
games predicted to be out at end of 2003 - 475
number of games we would buy (if we had the money) - 23 (including soon to be released ones)
Xbox
games out at the moment - 200 (before christmas)
games in the pipe line - 300 (total 500)
amount of games we would buy (if we had the console) - 5(including soon to be released ones)
GC
games out at the moment - 100
games to be realeased - no idea but from the games we have heard about Mario, zelda and metriod prime to name a few it looks good
games we would get - 36 (including soon to be released ones)
The fact is no one is intrested in how many units its sold (i never noticed a diffence in gameplay from when i brought my GC to now)
and nor does anyone care how many games it has (although if plans go ahead Xbox will have more soon) because people wont buy rubbish games (i dont hear anyone talking about how good off road : wide open is) so it may aswell not be released.
And before any one comes up saying well if GC is so good why arnt u playing urs. its because my mates are playing on it.
so PS2 owners go get playing ur sooooo amazing PS2`s or i suppose you could try telling me games, which are exclusive to PS2, that match up to the gameplay of games such as:
star wars rouge leader
luigis mansion
super smash bros melee
just to name a few.
also you may use ones due to be released but if you do ill start showing you the games due to be released on GC.
now excuse me im of to pre order resi evil 0
Boz (a GC owner) would like to thank - sarah, tim, dave and mike (ps2 owners) and jade, "gazza" and paul(GC owners).
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looks like the topic "is it reprecentive" seems to interpetate the forums diffrent to this one i did as he says about not many PS2 owners talk on here, which i agree on cause i havent seen one in ages, but when i wrote this i just read about 5 topics in a row from ps2 fan boys.
now is this because they have taken my advice or sony fitted the PS2 with a chip that explodes on the 25th (today) so they have to buy another.
it would explain y i just saw 3 ppl taking their ps2s back to diffrent shops
now is this because they have taken my advice or sony fitted the PS2 with a chip that explodes on the 25th (today) so they have to buy another.
it would explain y i just saw 3 ppl taking their ps2s back to diffrent shops
i brought a DVD player to play DVDs thats what i did when looking for one.
i brought a GC to play games thats what i looked for when buying it.
Yes ok DVDs are a big thing but i think the gaming community has done it the wrong way. like on PCs u have the choise to have a dvd tray or not meaning u dont have to pay extra for some thing u dont want.
The idea Nintendo had of releasing a only games console (GC) and a GC which played DVDS (Q) so u dont pay for somin u dont use.
but maybe they did go wrong in relesing it because if they planned releasing it here then its too late really.
any one who says xbox doesnt come with a DVD player u need to buy remote first. well in fact thats worse cause u pay for the DVD palyer in it then pay again for the remote.
i brought a GC to play games thats what i looked for when buying it.
Yes ok DVDs are a big thing but i think the gaming community has done it the wrong way. like on PCs u have the choise to have a dvd tray or not meaning u dont have to pay extra for some thing u dont want.
The idea Nintendo had of releasing a only games console (GC) and a GC which played DVDS (Q) so u dont pay for somin u dont use.
but maybe they did go wrong in relesing it because if they planned releasing it here then its too late really.
any one who says xbox doesnt come with a DVD player u need to buy remote first. well in fact thats worse cause u pay for the DVD palyer in it then pay again for the remote.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Dave RJR wrote:
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now
> that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the
> standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all
> have them, it can not be ignored.
>
> So, pretty much everyone has a DVD player already. What exactly is the
> point of buying a second one?
>
>
> The console industry is changing -
> it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband
> experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on
> line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the
> new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
>
> All of which are available to you via other means anyway. Doubling up
> your capacity is a waste of money.
True, but i wouldn't call the TiVo hard disc recorder popular. Sky+ version is better if u don't mind the subscription charges. And u can do it using a PC kit - but again, not really mainstream is it.
> Dave RJR wrote:
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now
> that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the
> standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all
> have them, it can not be ignored.
>
> So, pretty much everyone has a DVD player already. What exactly is the
> point of buying a second one?
>
>
> The console industry is changing -
> it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband
> experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on
> line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the
> new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
>
> All of which are available to you via other means anyway. Doubling up
> your capacity is a waste of money.
True, but i wouldn't call the TiVo hard disc recorder popular. Sky+ version is better if u don't mind the subscription charges. And u can do it using a PC kit - but again, not really mainstream is it.
Dave RJR wrote:
>If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
I think "homestation" has been scrapped.
>If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
I think "homestation" has been scrapped.
Dave RJR wrote:
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever.
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You caught me out of contet there. What I meant is that DVD is irrelevant to most people when considering buying a games console (with emphasis on the word games there).
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever.
-----
You caught me out of contet there. What I meant is that DVD is irrelevant to most people when considering buying a games console (with emphasis on the word games there).
Dave RJR wrote:
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now
> that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the
> standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all
> have them, it can not be ignored.
So, pretty much everyone has a DVD player already. What exactly is the point of buying a second one?
> The console industry is changing -
> it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband
> experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on
> line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
All of which are available to you via other means anyway. Doubling up your capacity is a waste of money.
> DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
> How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now
> that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the
> standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all
> have them, it can not be ignored.
So, pretty much everyone has a DVD player already. What exactly is the point of buying a second one?
> The console industry is changing -
> it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband
> experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on
> line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new
> "home station" machines which would have even wider
> capabilities such as digital tv recording.
All of which are available to you via other means anyway. Doubling up your capacity is a waste of money.
ShadowDragon wrote:
> Quoting what I said in one of the other threads, "all the
> consoles have strengths and weaknesses." The inability to see the
> weaknesses of your own favourite is not a good thing. Call it
> fanboyism if you will...
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i hope none of you ppl think im being biased to GC (although i find it had not to after the years i liked them) i too realise that nintendo has its problems The kiddy tag they got over the years being the main one which, i hope, they are on there way getting rid of with the release of eternal darkness
> Quoting what I said in one of the other threads, "all the
> consoles have strengths and weaknesses." The inability to see the
> weaknesses of your own favourite is not a good thing. Call it
> fanboyism if you will...
-----
i hope none of you ppl think im being biased to GC (although i find it had not to after the years i liked them) i too realise that nintendo has its problems The kiddy tag they got over the years being the main one which, i hope, they are on there way getting rid of with the release of eternal darkness
DVD is irrelevant to most people.....
How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all have them, it can not be ignored. The console industry is changing - it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new "home station" machines which would have even wider capabilities such as digital tv recording.
How can you say that. It's the fastest growing media ever. And now that at least 2 consoles have it as standard (the Q is not the standard way to play GC games) and the PC and home DVD players all have them, it can not be ignored. The console industry is changing - it's taking on more forms - not just games. Next up is the Broadband experiment. Email and web on the tv via your console as well as on line games. If Sony or MS get their way, we might end up using the new "home station" machines which would have even wider capabilities such as digital tv recording.
> In my opinion, the PS2 cheats. On the launch date, it had
> hundreds of titles behind it. The Psone titles.
Some call it cheating....some call it a good marketing stratergy
Is the Game boy advance cheating?
> hundreds of titles behind it. The Psone titles.
Some call it cheating....some call it a good marketing stratergy
Is the Game boy advance cheating?
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