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I am not making this post to discuss the reasons for PS2's success, as they are down to opinion, open to debate, and eventually the cause of war. Instead, this is just a few facts I`ve uncovered. The statistics on two of the main three markets (in this case the US and Japan) are as follows:
Japanese sales last week:
PS2 - 63,000
GBA - 37,000
GC - 7,900
PS1 - 4,400
X-Box - 3,000
US sales for May:
PS2 - 520,000 (Up from 315,200 in April)
X-Box - 230,000 (Up from 151,800 in April)
GC - 112,300 (Up from 82,000 in April)
Now, obviously, these figures are just from retail surveys, so might be slightly unreliable, but it is certainly not the first time I`ve heard figures like this being read out. Even if there is some error above, its not going to be by much.
This was supposed to be the time when the PS2's storm was being quietened. It was suggested that though PS2 may win in the end, X-Box and GX would gain a lot of ground on Sony's machine over the next year or so. Its early days, and the release of games like Zelda and Mario on GC could help significantly, but for now, I`d hardly say the other consoles were catching up.
Like I said before though, this isn`t a "PS2 is better post" because that's been covered once or twice before, but these figures have to be quite worrying for the competition...
Japanese sales last week:
PS2 - 63,000
GBA - 37,000
GC - 7,900
PS1 - 4,400
X-Box - 3,000
US sales for May:
PS2 - 520,000 (Up from 315,200 in April)
X-Box - 230,000 (Up from 151,800 in April)
GC - 112,300 (Up from 82,000 in April)
Now, obviously, these figures are just from retail surveys, so might be slightly unreliable, but it is certainly not the first time I`ve heard figures like this being read out. Even if there is some error above, its not going to be by much.
This was supposed to be the time when the PS2's storm was being quietened. It was suggested that though PS2 may win in the end, X-Box and GX would gain a lot of ground on Sony's machine over the next year or so. Its early days, and the release of games like Zelda and Mario on GC could help significantly, but for now, I`d hardly say the other consoles were catching up.
Like I said before though, this isn`t a "PS2 is better post" because that's been covered once or twice before, but these figures have to be quite worrying for the competition...
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Heh, PSone is selling more than XBox
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Latest Japan figures...
PlayStation 2: 57,100 (Annual: 2,035,900)
Game Boy Advance: 38,900 (Annual: 1,391,600)
GameCube: 9,400 (Annual: 620,500)
PSOne: 3,800 (Annual: 143,600)
Xbox: 3,500 (Annual: 217,000)
Wonder Swan Color: 2,400 (Annual: 95,400)
Game Boy Color: 2,000 (Annual: 61,600)
Dreamcast: 190 (Annual: 16,800)
Nintendo 64: 150 (Annual: 5,000)
Wonder Swan: 120 (Annual: 4,800)
PocketStation: 25 (Annual: 900)
Game Boy: 24 (Annual: 4,100)
24 Original Game boys sold?!
PlayStation 2: 57,100 (Annual: 2,035,900)
Game Boy Advance: 38,900 (Annual: 1,391,600)
GameCube: 9,400 (Annual: 620,500)
PSOne: 3,800 (Annual: 143,600)
Xbox: 3,500 (Annual: 217,000)
Wonder Swan Color: 2,400 (Annual: 95,400)
Game Boy Color: 2,000 (Annual: 61,600)
Dreamcast: 190 (Annual: 16,800)
Nintendo 64: 150 (Annual: 5,000)
Wonder Swan: 120 (Annual: 4,800)
PocketStation: 25 (Annual: 900)
Game Boy: 24 (Annual: 4,100)
24 Original Game boys sold?!
Res€vilfan wrote:
> Tell me about it, 8 years ago we were just getting our first glimpse
> of Tomb Raider and Resident Evil!
I was really excited about both of those games at the time. And I have to say, the same is true now! I am really looking forward to the new Resi on Gamecube, and the new Tomb Raider on PS2.
Who'd have thought it... eight years on, and looking forward to the same old games! :-)
> Tell me about it, 8 years ago we were just getting our first glimpse
> of Tomb Raider and Resident Evil!
I was really excited about both of those games at the time. And I have to say, the same is true now! I am really looking forward to the new Resi on Gamecube, and the new Tomb Raider on PS2.
Who'd have thought it... eight years on, and looking forward to the same old games! :-)
We've been posting these sales figures every few weeks in Chat, and nothing much has changed (although Xbox sales briefly beat GC sales in Japan! for a month). The only real shock is DC sales- up to around 50 over the last month despite the console being officially sold out (even after Sega imported DCs back from America to fuel demand!).
Sony will always have the highest sales simply because of brandname and it having the biggest range of licenced games.
Sonic
Sony will always have the highest sales simply because of brandname and it having the biggest range of licenced games.
Sonic
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much
> more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
Tell me about it, 8 years ago we were just getting our first glimpse of Tomb Raider and Resident Evil!
> But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much
> more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
Tell me about it, 8 years ago we were just getting our first glimpse of Tomb Raider and Resident Evil!
Well, not looking to argue as such, but I don't think Nintendo stand a chance of selling that many machines in that space of time.
Argue with me then! :-)
Nintendo plan to sell 50 million consoles by 2005.
Sounds ambitious but it might well happen.
Most gamers are getting one even if they already have an Xbox or PS2 mainly because:
It's so cheap that there's no harm in getting one.
There's a whole list of fantastic exclusive games from Nintendo/Rare to signed deals like the Resident Evil series.
It's also the best console to have at parties (newbies can enjoy Monkey Ball and Smash Brothers straight away. Have you seen a newbie gamer try to get to grips with Halo? It's almost too painful to watch...).
As for improvements, I don't think we'll see the same step as "Saturn to Xbox" leap with the next 16 years, let alone 8.
The PSOne and Saturn were pioneers in 3D gaming.
The N64 pushed things further and standardised "true" 3D.
The Dreamcast came 2 years later and ironed out more or less everything that made the others out dated and under powered.
(The PSone's blocky graphics and loading times, the N64's expensive games and "unsharp" graphics).
Even then, most people saw the Dreamcast as unneccessary.
Since then, each new console has pushed the boundaries by a less noticable amount. The PS2 was out performed by the DC at first and although it's games are now superior, they could still be done on the DC with slightly dumbed down graphics.
Likewise with most of what the Xbox and GC are offering.
They generally run a little smoother than PS2 games, but no ground braking difference in what can be done with this new power.
Nintendo knew this and concentrated on making sure that devellopers could easily get the best out of what power was given to them.
Nintendo know that it's their games that'll make their console, not the specs, and don't think that a new console will push the boundaries for the moment.
The PS3 will undoutably be more potent than the Xbox and GC, but I'm not sure if this new power will be enough will justify the amount of money and work that'll be invested in develloping and marketing it.
Perhaps Sony will take a leaf out of Nintendo's book and go for cost efficiency this time round. They've already said that they envy the Gamecube's "develloper-friendlyness".
The PS2 was designed purely with raw power in mind. I think Sony are wisely taking a different approach with the PS3...
Sounds ambitious but it might well happen.
Most gamers are getting one even if they already have an Xbox or PS2 mainly because:
It's so cheap that there's no harm in getting one.
There's a whole list of fantastic exclusive games from Nintendo/Rare to signed deals like the Resident Evil series.
It's also the best console to have at parties (newbies can enjoy Monkey Ball and Smash Brothers straight away. Have you seen a newbie gamer try to get to grips with Halo? It's almost too painful to watch...).
As for improvements, I don't think we'll see the same step as "Saturn to Xbox" leap with the next 16 years, let alone 8.
The PSOne and Saturn were pioneers in 3D gaming.
The N64 pushed things further and standardised "true" 3D.
The Dreamcast came 2 years later and ironed out more or less everything that made the others out dated and under powered.
(The PSone's blocky graphics and loading times, the N64's expensive games and "unsharp" graphics).
Even then, most people saw the Dreamcast as unneccessary.
Since then, each new console has pushed the boundaries by a less noticable amount. The PS2 was out performed by the DC at first and although it's games are now superior, they could still be done on the DC with slightly dumbed down graphics.
Likewise with most of what the Xbox and GC are offering.
They generally run a little smoother than PS2 games, but no ground braking difference in what can be done with this new power.
Nintendo knew this and concentrated on making sure that devellopers could easily get the best out of what power was given to them.
Nintendo know that it's their games that'll make their console, not the specs, and don't think that a new console will push the boundaries for the moment.
The PS3 will undoutably be more potent than the Xbox and GC, but I'm not sure if this new power will be enough will justify the amount of money and work that'll be invested in develloping and marketing it.
Perhaps Sony will take a leaf out of Nintendo's book and go for cost efficiency this time round. They've already said that they envy the Gamecube's "develloper-friendlyness".
The PS2 was designed purely with raw power in mind. I think Sony are wisely taking a different approach with the PS3...
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much
> more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
Damn, you've just opened up a whole new can of worms...
think about it!
> But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much
> more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
Damn, you've just opened up a whole new can of worms...
think about it!
At first thought, it would seem that Nintendo will be pushing it a bit if they leave the GC in place for 8 years - it'll be hopelessly underpowered at that time.
Though having said that, the PSone has been around for 7 years now - 8 in Japan - and despite that, it is still outselling newer hardware. I'm sure not even Sony thought that they'd be selling the machine 8 years after launch.
The 'test' (for want of a better expression) will be if GameCube sells a comparable amount that same time-span. If it does, then it may make the 8-year target. If not, I think Nintendo will be replacing it sooner.
But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
Though having said that, the PSone has been around for 7 years now - 8 in Japan - and despite that, it is still outselling newer hardware. I'm sure not even Sony thought that they'd be selling the machine 8 years after launch.
The 'test' (for want of a better expression) will be if GameCube sells a comparable amount that same time-span. If it does, then it may make the 8-year target. If not, I think Nintendo will be replacing it sooner.
But just as the PSone looks dated now, it scares me to think how much more powerful consoles will be in 8 years time.
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