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Fri 21/06/02 at 11:10
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Number 1: David Seaman. Hindsight is a terrible excuse but right from the outset of the World Cup I have been telling anyone who would listen: he should not be in goal. The poorly conceded free kick against Brazil aside, his main faults have been his poor distribution from goal kicks and from his hand. Giving the ball back to the opposition 9/10 times is a very poor tactic. The pressure then builds and builds, players start to panic and soon the whole team is launching long balls aimlessly up the pitch. Why not follow the lead of EVERY other keeper in the World Cup and roll it out to one of your OWN players. David James is a superior keeper in every aspect and we can only blame the media for vilifying him and assigning him the tag “Calamity James”. He is our best keeper, idiots.

Number 2: Emile Heskey. He is big, strong and has a powerful shot. How many times have we heard that? His first touch is atrocious, he rarely gets a second and when he does it is usually an attempt to pass the ball away in fear of having to do something with it. If EVERYONE in the country can see he is poor, then he must be doing something wrong. When he occasionally does something average like having a scuffed shot, everyone makes a point of saying how good it was. Liars. Stop defending him.

Number 3: David Beckham. Stop doing those stupid clipped balls over opposition players heads, because our players rarely control them. Keep it simple stupid. Tries too hard to look good, when he should try hard to be good. He’s suddenly decided he must be the greatest player in the World and now acts like it. Why do a 5 yard pass when he can attempt to send it 50?

Number 4: Sven. He is at fault for continuing to pick Heskey, which appears to be a stubborn streak. He must know that Fowler is immeasurably superior to this man. Why he insists on having him in to “drop back into midfield” all the time is beyond me. Very negative approach. Also when the Brazilian player was sent off he should have immediately brought on Sherringham and Vassell-taken off Butt and Heskey. The extra pace of Vassell would have stretched the defence and the cute passing of Teddy would have brought Owen into the game more. So what does he do? TAKES OF OWEN AND BRINGS ON VASSELL WITH 10 MINUTES TO GO. The guy’s a genius. Give him a pay rise please.

Number 5: The Premiership. It’s still too kick and rush, with an inordinate amount of goals coming from errors and direct play. There is no subtlety. Unfortunately the crowds in this country are not very educated about football. Yes the football in this country is exciting to watch but it is rare to see any real craft. If a player has the ball in defence everyone screams at him to kick it “AWAY AWAY!! GET RID OF IT!!!”, why? It is a poor breeding ground for our players.

Number 6: Media. We have produced some great players. Gascoigne, Le Tissier, Barnes, Mc Mananmanmanamanmmanan, Wilkins, Hoddle. Yet they get lambasted. Is it just co-incidence that every sublimely skilful player has struggled to fulfil their potential in an England shirt? Barnes never had the ball to feet that’s why. He had to play in front of Pearce, who never gave him the ball, instead he would put his head down and lump it. Wilkins was criticised for passing the ball sideways or backwards and got the nickname “The crab”. So retaining possession is a bad thing. Get him out of the side and bring in Geoff Thomas. And Batty and Palmer and Wise. There must be a reason why so many players “never seem to reproduce their club form for England”. As for Le Tiss. He got labelled as lazy. If he were Italian or Dutch, they would have called him a gloriously gifted player who plays with an economy of movement and efficiency. He was a fantastic player. His goals are delightful to watch. He got a game against Italy and was the best player on the pitch. He made the mistake of not scoring from a header at 30 yards from goal. They strung him up, blaming him for every single inadequacy in the team.

As Hansen would say, very very poor.
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:10
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
Number 1: David Seaman. Hindsight is a terrible excuse but right from the outset of the World Cup I have been telling anyone who would listen: he should not be in goal. The poorly conceded free kick against Brazil aside, his main faults have been his poor distribution from goal kicks and from his hand. Giving the ball back to the opposition 9/10 times is a very poor tactic. The pressure then builds and builds, players start to panic and soon the whole team is launching long balls aimlessly up the pitch. Why not follow the lead of EVERY other keeper in the World Cup and roll it out to one of your OWN players. David James is a superior keeper in every aspect and we can only blame the media for vilifying him and assigning him the tag “Calamity James”. He is our best keeper, idiots.

Number 2: Emile Heskey. He is big, strong and has a powerful shot. How many times have we heard that? His first touch is atrocious, he rarely gets a second and when he does it is usually an attempt to pass the ball away in fear of having to do something with it. If EVERYONE in the country can see he is poor, then he must be doing something wrong. When he occasionally does something average like having a scuffed shot, everyone makes a point of saying how good it was. Liars. Stop defending him.

Number 3: David Beckham. Stop doing those stupid clipped balls over opposition players heads, because our players rarely control them. Keep it simple stupid. Tries too hard to look good, when he should try hard to be good. He’s suddenly decided he must be the greatest player in the World and now acts like it. Why do a 5 yard pass when he can attempt to send it 50?

Number 4: Sven. He is at fault for continuing to pick Heskey, which appears to be a stubborn streak. He must know that Fowler is immeasurably superior to this man. Why he insists on having him in to “drop back into midfield” all the time is beyond me. Very negative approach. Also when the Brazilian player was sent off he should have immediately brought on Sherringham and Vassell-taken off Butt and Heskey. The extra pace of Vassell would have stretched the defence and the cute passing of Teddy would have brought Owen into the game more. So what does he do? TAKES OF OWEN AND BRINGS ON VASSELL WITH 10 MINUTES TO GO. The guy’s a genius. Give him a pay rise please.

Number 5: The Premiership. It’s still too kick and rush, with an inordinate amount of goals coming from errors and direct play. There is no subtlety. Unfortunately the crowds in this country are not very educated about football. Yes the football in this country is exciting to watch but it is rare to see any real craft. If a player has the ball in defence everyone screams at him to kick it “AWAY AWAY!! GET RID OF IT!!!”, why? It is a poor breeding ground for our players.

Number 6: Media. We have produced some great players. Gascoigne, Le Tissier, Barnes, Mc Mananmanmanamanmmanan, Wilkins, Hoddle. Yet they get lambasted. Is it just co-incidence that every sublimely skilful player has struggled to fulfil their potential in an England shirt? Barnes never had the ball to feet that’s why. He had to play in front of Pearce, who never gave him the ball, instead he would put his head down and lump it. Wilkins was criticised for passing the ball sideways or backwards and got the nickname “The crab”. So retaining possession is a bad thing. Get him out of the side and bring in Geoff Thomas. And Batty and Palmer and Wise. There must be a reason why so many players “never seem to reproduce their club form for England”. As for Le Tiss. He got labelled as lazy. If he were Italian or Dutch, they would have called him a gloriously gifted player who plays with an economy of movement and efficiency. He was a fantastic player. His goals are delightful to watch. He got a game against Italy and was the best player on the pitch. He made the mistake of not scoring from a header at 30 yards from goal. They strung him up, blaming him for every single inadequacy in the team.

As Hansen would say, very very poor.
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:16
"High polygon count"
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Beefcake wrote:
> David James is a superior keeper in every aspect and we
> can only blame the media for vilifying him and assigning him the tag
> “Calamity James”. He is our best keeper, idiots.

Sorry, Beefy - but after reading that, I couldn't take the rest of the post seriously. ANYONE but James! Hell, I'd do a better job!
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:17
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"Baros!!!"
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Why blame people? whats the point of it?
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:18
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"Long time no see!"
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Why don't we just blame the team as a whole for that dissapointing second half performance against only 10 men!

Teams are always told to accept mistakes as a team, and that's how we should see it. No individual stands-out in any way, and therefore no one player deserves more of the blame than any other!

It was just one match anyway, and we all knew deep-down that Brazil would be too strong for us in the attack - even our defence did start out well-planned in the begining!

And it was more of Campbell's fault than Seaman's for the Rivaldo goal.
And I think Martyn shoudl've replaced him at half-time anyway.
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:19
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
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>We have produced some great players. Gascoigne, Le Tissier, Barnes, Mc Mananmanmanamanmmanan, Wilkins, Hoddle. Yet they get lambasted.

So what are yo doing thats differently to lambasting our current stars?

England were 'apparently' close to nothing before this WC , but they have given back our pride with the performances in the World Cup.
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:42
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
There is a subtle difference. Er hang on. Erm. Fair point but I did say skillful players which the aforementioned lambastians are not. But by me saying that I continue to lambast them. Catch 22.

And David James is a great keeper. And I am not letting my West Ham bias lead me to say this, and why the feck did Cole not come on? He was brought to the WC for his ability to take players on and on that basis he made the squad. It was thought if England needed a 20min hero it would be him. Instead....
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:46
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Some one back me up with some figures for this one...

Didnt David James get the most points for a keepr on that "opta" stats thingy for last season?

The Calamity James tag left him when he left Liverpool.
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:50
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I've been saying all along that Heskey is a Donkey who falls pver himself to much. Why not bring on a class Spurs player....i.e. Sheringham *respect*
Fri 21/06/02 at 11:51
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Or†ega wrote:
> Some one back me up with some figures for this one...
>
> Didnt David James get the most points for a keepr on that
> "opta" stats thingy for last season?
>
> The Calamity James tag left him when he left Liverpool.

I think that was either Sorenson or Van De Sar
Fri 21/06/02 at 12:05
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"TheShiznit.co.uk"
Posts: 6,592
Heskey was England's best forward this morning. Owen was tired, which is why he was substituted. Owen and Vassel cannot play together, whereas Vassel and Heskey can. Seaman has been impeccable the whole tournament, and made one error in straying off his line for the 2nd Brazilian goal. To say he gives the ball away 9/10 is laughable. In fact, I pretty much disagree with every point you made, except the last one, which I didn't read because I couldn't be bothered.

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