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Sat 15/06/02 at 21:23
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I've just been doing some research and my research gives hope to England fans everywhere... can we win the world cup? Here's what I found out.

1) In 1966 France finished bottom of their group (the same group as England with 1 point). In 2002, they finished bottom of their group with 1 point..

2) England of 1966 may have won more games in the group stages (they won 2, drew 1) than the England of 2002 (who drew 2 and won 1). But since a win was worth 2 points back then, they finished with 5 points... just like the England of today...

3) England got a 0-0 draw in the group stages in 1966 against Uruguay.

4) England did not lose a single game in the entire tournament - the worst result being a 0-0 draw with Uruguay... England are currently yet to lose.

5) Brazil, who won the world cup in 1962, went out in the group stages of the next world cup 1966 finishing 3rd behind Hungary and Portugal. In 2002, defending champions France went out in the group stages....

6) In the world cup before 1962, England had gone out in the round after the group stages, the quarter finals, losing 3-1 to Brazil. In 1998, England lost to Argentina in the second round, straight after the group stages..

7) England had kept a clean sheet throughout the first four games. Also however they had at that time the least goals scored against them - like the England today that has only conceded one goal from Sweden in 4 matches. (1966 England then let in one goal against Portugal then 2 from Germany in that famous world cup final)

8) England beat Argentina 1-0 in 1966 as well as in 2002..

9) West Germany the eventual finalists and runners up, won their group with two wins and a draw (the draw being with group runners up Argentina). In 2002, Germany won two games, and got a draw against... group runners up Republic of Ireland.

10) West Germany also hammered group losers Switzerland 5-0 in 1966. In 2002, they hammered group losers Saudi Arabia 8-0. Their 5-0 victory was the best in that tournament.. Surely no one is going to win more than 8-0 at these stages?

11) If Germany and England win all their games they will meet at and only at the world cup final thus repeating the 1966 result...

It could happen.. couldn't it?

Please add any new likenesses with 1966 you can discover. Hope this boosts people's confidence that we can beat Brazil/Belgium (I think it's Brazil we're scared of though).

Here's a good resource of all the results of world cup matches...
http://www.intnet.co.cr/sports/mundial/
Sat 15/06/02 at 21:45
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You do begin to wonder if it is ganna be Englands Year and the way things are going who can bet against them like beating Argentina 1-0
Sat 15/06/02 at 21:42
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12) The last time the holders of the World cup went out in the group stages was 1966, whcih we obviously went on to win.
Sat 15/06/02 at 21:23
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I've just been doing some research and my research gives hope to England fans everywhere... can we win the world cup? Here's what I found out.

1) In 1966 France finished bottom of their group (the same group as England with 1 point). In 2002, they finished bottom of their group with 1 point..

2) England of 1966 may have won more games in the group stages (they won 2, drew 1) than the England of 2002 (who drew 2 and won 1). But since a win was worth 2 points back then, they finished with 5 points... just like the England of today...

3) England got a 0-0 draw in the group stages in 1966 against Uruguay.

4) England did not lose a single game in the entire tournament - the worst result being a 0-0 draw with Uruguay... England are currently yet to lose.

5) Brazil, who won the world cup in 1962, went out in the group stages of the next world cup 1966 finishing 3rd behind Hungary and Portugal. In 2002, defending champions France went out in the group stages....

6) In the world cup before 1962, England had gone out in the round after the group stages, the quarter finals, losing 3-1 to Brazil. In 1998, England lost to Argentina in the second round, straight after the group stages..

7) England had kept a clean sheet throughout the first four games. Also however they had at that time the least goals scored against them - like the England today that has only conceded one goal from Sweden in 4 matches. (1966 England then let in one goal against Portugal then 2 from Germany in that famous world cup final)

8) England beat Argentina 1-0 in 1966 as well as in 2002..

9) West Germany the eventual finalists and runners up, won their group with two wins and a draw (the draw being with group runners up Argentina). In 2002, Germany won two games, and got a draw against... group runners up Republic of Ireland.

10) West Germany also hammered group losers Switzerland 5-0 in 1966. In 2002, they hammered group losers Saudi Arabia 8-0. Their 5-0 victory was the best in that tournament.. Surely no one is going to win more than 8-0 at these stages?

11) If Germany and England win all their games they will meet at and only at the world cup final thus repeating the 1966 result...

It could happen.. couldn't it?

Please add any new likenesses with 1966 you can discover. Hope this boosts people's confidence that we can beat Brazil/Belgium (I think it's Brazil we're scared of though).

Here's a good resource of all the results of world cup matches...
http://www.intnet.co.cr/sports/mundial/

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