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It amazes me every time I see someone say how the Gamecube is kewl because it is 'small and portable', and that none of the other consoles are. What planet are you on?
Every console is portable. PCs with their monitors and cables are not portable, but consoles are. The fact that the Gamecube is marginally smaller than other consoles does not mean it's the only portable console - it means it is marginally smaller, and that's all. They are all still very portable.
You seem to class the smallest console as the only console that is portable.
It's like saying only cars that can go over 200mph can move.
What will you lot say when someone releases a console that is smaller than the Gamecube? Will the Gamecube all of a sudden not be portable, just like the Xbox and PS2 now? The Dreamcast was also very small, yet no-one claimed that as a selling point. Why not? Because it already had enough selling points that were much more valid - first 128-bit console, only console with working online games, first true next-gen console etc. etc.
The Dreamcast didn't need half-@rsed pointless and trivial selling points like 'it's so small you can take it anywhere!' because that is true of ALL consoles.
Perhaps the fact that Nintendo fans claim the size of the console makes it portable or not and then claim this as a selling point should not come as a surprise, as the majority of Nintendo fans are aged to suit the console? If Nintendo build a console to look like a dinky toy, and then make games to suit my little sisters, I suppose they can't complain when their fan-base is so young that they come up with lame positive points like the size of the console.
Step over the the Microsoft, Sony or Sega forums and you see things like 'specifications' and 'hardware' being talked about. This is because these are in fact adult consoles. No-one expects Nintendo fans to care about such things, as they are too obsessed with their cutesy little fluffy game characters to notice 'frame rate' or 'polygon count', but what they DO expect is that you appreciate that some people actually care about the POWER inside their console, and not just if it's small enough to fit down your Jap's eye or not.
At the end of the day if you lot want to sit there and get erections over your small consoles then you can do that, but don't try using it as a reason behind 'mine is better than yours' as it just makes you look stupid.
How many people have been unable to take their Xbox to another room because it was too big? None. Do you hang your Gamecubes on your eye-lashes to play on it, or do you stick it under your TV, exactly where you would stick an Xbox? How many people can take their Gamecube to places an Xbox cannot go? None. Why is this? Because SIZE DOESN'T MATTER.
Every console is portable. PCs with their monitors and cables are not portable, but consoles are. The fact that the Gamecube is marginally smaller than other consoles does not mean it's the only portable console - it means it is marginally smaller, and that's all. They are all still very portable.
You seem to class the smallest console as the only console that is portable.
It's like saying only cars that can go over 200mph can move.
What will you lot say when someone releases a console that is smaller than the Gamecube? Will the Gamecube all of a sudden not be portable, just like the Xbox and PS2 now? The Dreamcast was also very small, yet no-one claimed that as a selling point. Why not? Because it already had enough selling points that were much more valid - first 128-bit console, only console with working online games, first true next-gen console etc. etc.
The Dreamcast didn't need half-@rsed pointless and trivial selling points like 'it's so small you can take it anywhere!' because that is true of ALL consoles.
Perhaps the fact that Nintendo fans claim the size of the console makes it portable or not and then claim this as a selling point should not come as a surprise, as the majority of Nintendo fans are aged to suit the console? If Nintendo build a console to look like a dinky toy, and then make games to suit my little sisters, I suppose they can't complain when their fan-base is so young that they come up with lame positive points like the size of the console.
Step over the the Microsoft, Sony or Sega forums and you see things like 'specifications' and 'hardware' being talked about. This is because these are in fact adult consoles. No-one expects Nintendo fans to care about such things, as they are too obsessed with their cutesy little fluffy game characters to notice 'frame rate' or 'polygon count', but what they DO expect is that you appreciate that some people actually care about the POWER inside their console, and not just if it's small enough to fit down your Jap's eye or not.
At the end of the day if you lot want to sit there and get erections over your small consoles then you can do that, but don't try using it as a reason behind 'mine is better than yours' as it just makes you look stupid.
How many people have been unable to take their Xbox to another room because it was too big? None. Do you hang your Gamecubes on your eye-lashes to play on it, or do you stick it under your TV, exactly where you would stick an Xbox? How many people can take their Gamecube to places an Xbox cannot go? None. Why is this? Because SIZE DOESN'T MATTER.
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Gar-J - why bother, you could see this turning into a console war argument
It's a sad day when the only arguments Nintendo fans have are *yawn* and *Zzzzz*.
I guess the truth hurts right?
Hehehehe. ;o)
I guess the truth hurts right?
Hehehehe. ;o)
*yawn*
Gar-J wrote:
> PDark wrote:
> Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest
> Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz
> processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
So, if that is true, why is the Xbox receiving superior versions of all multi-platform games? Why does Rogue Squadron have bad slowdown? Because it wants to? Or because the GC is having difficulties running it?
> PDark wrote:
> Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest
> Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz
> processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
So, if that is true, why is the Xbox receiving superior versions of all multi-platform games? Why does Rogue Squadron have bad slowdown? Because it wants to? Or because the GC is having difficulties running it?
PDark wrote:
> what ever floats your boat! It just seems that not very much does!
> What I choose is up to me I'm just stating the facts. If you don't
> like pentiums at all then I suggest that you don't invest in an X-Box!
But that's just it - what you say isn't a fact.
Also, I'm not that childish. Just because I know AMD is superior to Intel, I'm not going to avoid an Xbox just because it's powered by Intel. If there was a choice between Intel Xboxes and AMD ones, I'd go for the AMD one, but there isn't. Xbox 2 is going to be powered by AMD, which is great news, but suggesting that I should avoid an Xbox simply cos it's powered by Intel... just shows the mental attitude of some of these users. Ah well.
> what ever floats your boat! It just seems that not very much does!
> What I choose is up to me I'm just stating the facts. If you don't
> like pentiums at all then I suggest that you don't invest in an X-Box!
But that's just it - what you say isn't a fact.
Also, I'm not that childish. Just because I know AMD is superior to Intel, I'm not going to avoid an Xbox just because it's powered by Intel. If there was a choice between Intel Xboxes and AMD ones, I'd go for the AMD one, but there isn't. Xbox 2 is going to be powered by AMD, which is great news, but suggesting that I should avoid an Xbox simply cos it's powered by Intel... just shows the mental attitude of some of these users. Ah well.
PDark wrote:
> Ok I don’t see the point in this. I’m quite a PC man myself, specs are
> the sort of thing that I worry about on this platform, not on a games
> console. If you do that then you are all stupid. Consoles are there
> for trouble free gaming for every one where you don’t have to worry if
> a game is going to run. Ok I agree it is worth considering when
> looking for a new console but it should all be forgotten after the
> purchase. You don’t want to spend a lot of money buying a machine that
> is no better than your old one, however there is no need to worry with
> any of these consoles. But seeing some body brought it up here are the
> facts. Mhz means absolutely nothing! Everybody who knows anything
> about computers knows that an AMD XP 1900+ is just as good as a 2.4
> Ghz Pentium 4. When the clock speed is only 1.6 Ghz. Every body knows
> that Pentiums do not offer good performance for the money, however I
> will have and do have a Pentium in my PC because they are pure
> quality. They are stable and last forever. My fan failed on my PC
> fried my processor but it still works. I’m not saying other makes are
> bad but I like that extra quality.
>
> Any way, back to the topic. The GC uses a custom IBM Power PC
> processor. Ring any bells? Yes that’s it every computer nuts dream.
> They are straight out of the good old trusty Mac. Mow go and look at
> the specs for the Mac. Yep the processor speed are really low, Crap! I
> hear you mutter! Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest
> Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz
> processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
>
> As for the small aspect and portability, its not a selling point but
> it is something extra. Why make something big if it can be made small.
> People are always customizing PC cases to make then smaller and more
> compact. It is not only the size that makes it portable though. To
> something to be completely portable it has to be completely self
> contained. The GC is almost there but it is not portable quite yet.
> First it has the screen, this is very important, then the smaller size
> helps but is not crucial then more importantly is the power supply.
> The GC is almost there but the PS2 and X-Box will never be there. PS”
> and X-Box can’t work without a mains socket. This is shown with the
> PS2 monitor it can not run off the car or a battery like the GC. You
> are not going to walk down the street with any of these but the GC can
> be taken with you and used anywhere. However this is where the small
> problem is. The battery is useless. 3.5 hours is not enough to make it
> portable in my book. There needs to be some sort of improvement in the
> battery department. However for use in the car with a lighter socket
> or on holiday where there is not TV but a socket it is perfect but not
> portable.
>
> Oh and it is frontline that is coming to GC, it will be on all the
> consoles I think. This brings me onto another point. Something I would
> like everybody’s opinion on. These days it seems that almost all third
> party games are going to all of the consoles. This is where the larger
> first and second party support Nintendo and Sony have offers a greater
> range of software that Microsoft does not have at present. It took
> Sony a long time to build up this quality support that it now has,
> when they first started in the games industry. Do you think that this
> will hamper Microsoft and the X-Box in the first few years?
>
> That’s all from me, Debate at will!!
Ok I actually thought you might know what you were talking about until you said Pentiums were 'pure quality'. Having a Pentium-based machine shows that you have no more idea about hardware than some of the muppets in this forum.
AMD's chips have every safety feature of a Pentium machine, are faster, AND cheaper...
Secondly, Microsoft has Halo because they bought the company that was making it. Software developers will never be an issue because they will just buy any companies that look like they're making good games. Sega is also giving MS their full support and the Xbox is seeing most of Sega's new games.
> Ok I don’t see the point in this. I’m quite a PC man myself, specs are
> the sort of thing that I worry about on this platform, not on a games
> console. If you do that then you are all stupid. Consoles are there
> for trouble free gaming for every one where you don’t have to worry if
> a game is going to run. Ok I agree it is worth considering when
> looking for a new console but it should all be forgotten after the
> purchase. You don’t want to spend a lot of money buying a machine that
> is no better than your old one, however there is no need to worry with
> any of these consoles. But seeing some body brought it up here are the
> facts. Mhz means absolutely nothing! Everybody who knows anything
> about computers knows that an AMD XP 1900+ is just as good as a 2.4
> Ghz Pentium 4. When the clock speed is only 1.6 Ghz. Every body knows
> that Pentiums do not offer good performance for the money, however I
> will have and do have a Pentium in my PC because they are pure
> quality. They are stable and last forever. My fan failed on my PC
> fried my processor but it still works. I’m not saying other makes are
> bad but I like that extra quality.
>
> Any way, back to the topic. The GC uses a custom IBM Power PC
> processor. Ring any bells? Yes that’s it every computer nuts dream.
> They are straight out of the good old trusty Mac. Mow go and look at
> the specs for the Mac. Yep the processor speed are really low, Crap! I
> hear you mutter! Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest
> Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz
> processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
>
> As for the small aspect and portability, its not a selling point but
> it is something extra. Why make something big if it can be made small.
> People are always customizing PC cases to make then smaller and more
> compact. It is not only the size that makes it portable though. To
> something to be completely portable it has to be completely self
> contained. The GC is almost there but it is not portable quite yet.
> First it has the screen, this is very important, then the smaller size
> helps but is not crucial then more importantly is the power supply.
> The GC is almost there but the PS2 and X-Box will never be there. PS”
> and X-Box can’t work without a mains socket. This is shown with the
> PS2 monitor it can not run off the car or a battery like the GC. You
> are not going to walk down the street with any of these but the GC can
> be taken with you and used anywhere. However this is where the small
> problem is. The battery is useless. 3.5 hours is not enough to make it
> portable in my book. There needs to be some sort of improvement in the
> battery department. However for use in the car with a lighter socket
> or on holiday where there is not TV but a socket it is perfect but not
> portable.
>
> Oh and it is frontline that is coming to GC, it will be on all the
> consoles I think. This brings me onto another point. Something I would
> like everybody’s opinion on. These days it seems that almost all third
> party games are going to all of the consoles. This is where the larger
> first and second party support Nintendo and Sony have offers a greater
> range of software that Microsoft does not have at present. It took
> Sony a long time to build up this quality support that it now has,
> when they first started in the games industry. Do you think that this
> will hamper Microsoft and the X-Box in the first few years?
>
> That’s all from me, Debate at will!!
Ok I actually thought you might know what you were talking about until you said Pentiums were 'pure quality'. Having a Pentium-based machine shows that you have no more idea about hardware than some of the muppets in this forum.
AMD's chips have every safety feature of a Pentium machine, are faster, AND cheaper...
Secondly, Microsoft has Halo because they bought the company that was making it. Software developers will never be an issue because they will just buy any companies that look like they're making good games. Sega is also giving MS their full support and the Xbox is seeing most of Sega's new games.
davyboy wrote:
> Its not just about tech specs though is about games and so far the
> Xbox games have been awfull except halo.
Excuse me but how many times do I have to say I know tech specs aren't everything, but you NEED power to run the games people want today?
I've said it like 3 times and there are still muppets around who don't understand.
> Its not just about tech specs though is about games and so far the
> Xbox games have been awfull except halo.
Excuse me but how many times do I have to say I know tech specs aren't everything, but you NEED power to run the games people want today?
I've said it like 3 times and there are still muppets around who don't understand.
Ok I don’t see the point in this. I’m quite a PC man myself, specs are the sort of thing that I worry about on this platform, not on a games console. If you do that then you are all stupid. Consoles are there for trouble free gaming for every one where you don’t have to worry if a game is going to run. Ok I agree it is worth considering when looking for a new console but it should all be forgotten after the purchase. You don’t want to spend a lot of money buying a machine that is no better than your old one, however there is no need to worry with any of these consoles. But seeing some body brought it up here are the facts. Mhz means absolutely nothing! Everybody who knows anything about computers knows that an AMD XP 1900+ is just as good as a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4. When the clock speed is only 1.6 Ghz. Every body knows that Pentiums do not offer good performance for the money, however I will have and do have a Pentium in my PC because they are pure quality. They are stable and last forever. My fan failed on my PC fried my processor but it still works. I’m not saying other makes are bad but I like that extra quality.
Any way, back to the topic. The GC uses a custom IBM Power PC processor. Ring any bells? Yes that’s it every computer nuts dream. They are straight out of the good old trusty Mac. Mow go and look at the specs for the Mac. Yep the processor speed are really low, Crap! I hear you mutter! Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
As for the small aspect and portability, its not a selling point but it is something extra. Why make something big if it can be made small. People are always customizing PC cases to make then smaller and more compact. It is not only the size that makes it portable though. To something to be completely portable it has to be completely self contained. The GC is almost there but it is not portable quite yet. First it has the screen, this is very important, then the smaller size helps but is not crucial then more importantly is the power supply. The GC is almost there but the PS2 and X-Box will never be there. PS” and X-Box can’t work without a mains socket. This is shown with the PS2 monitor it can not run off the car or a battery like the GC. You are not going to walk down the street with any of these but the GC can be taken with you and used anywhere. However this is where the small problem is. The battery is useless. 3.5 hours is not enough to make it portable in my book. There needs to be some sort of improvement in the battery department. However for use in the car with a lighter socket or on holiday where there is not TV but a socket it is perfect but not portable.
Oh and it is frontline that is coming to GC, it will be on all the consoles I think. This brings me onto another point. Something I would like everybody’s opinion on. These days it seems that almost all third party games are going to all of the consoles. This is where the larger first and second party support Nintendo and Sony have offers a greater range of software that Microsoft does not have at present. It took Sony a long time to build up this quality support that it now has, when they first started in the games industry. Do you think that this will hamper Microsoft and the X-Box in the first few years?
That’s all from me, Debate at will!!
Any way, back to the topic. The GC uses a custom IBM Power PC processor. Ring any bells? Yes that’s it every computer nuts dream. They are straight out of the good old trusty Mac. Mow go and look at the specs for the Mac. Yep the processor speed are really low, Crap! I hear you mutter! Not at all they can rival the speeds of the fastest Pentiums. That is why many developers are saying that the 485Mhz processor is equal to the 733Mhz Pentium.
As for the small aspect and portability, its not a selling point but it is something extra. Why make something big if it can be made small. People are always customizing PC cases to make then smaller and more compact. It is not only the size that makes it portable though. To something to be completely portable it has to be completely self contained. The GC is almost there but it is not portable quite yet. First it has the screen, this is very important, then the smaller size helps but is not crucial then more importantly is the power supply. The GC is almost there but the PS2 and X-Box will never be there. PS” and X-Box can’t work without a mains socket. This is shown with the PS2 monitor it can not run off the car or a battery like the GC. You are not going to walk down the street with any of these but the GC can be taken with you and used anywhere. However this is where the small problem is. The battery is useless. 3.5 hours is not enough to make it portable in my book. There needs to be some sort of improvement in the battery department. However for use in the car with a lighter socket or on holiday where there is not TV but a socket it is perfect but not portable.
Oh and it is frontline that is coming to GC, it will be on all the consoles I think. This brings me onto another point. Something I would like everybody’s opinion on. These days it seems that almost all third party games are going to all of the consoles. This is where the larger first and second party support Nintendo and Sony have offers a greater range of software that Microsoft does not have at present. It took Sony a long time to build up this quality support that it now has, when they first started in the games industry. Do you think that this will hamper Microsoft and the X-Box in the first few years?
That’s all from me, Debate at will!!
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