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Sat 08/06/02 at 13:40
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Look england wheter or not you claim that owen penalty claim was a dive or not was still blatantly deserved you can't complain anyway as the argentinians are only behind klinsman and the italy team in the diving rankings. England deserved the win anyway. Argentina may well be a better team but england out played them on the day and thats what counts.
+there is no such thing as a bad penalty which hits the back of the net.
Batistuta has the best scoring record out of anyone in the team and did a lot to get them there it is absolutely criminal to suggest he shouldn't be there especially as he has their only goal of the tournament.

The reason why they lost is a) because they had a bad day in midfield as a result of being out played by scholes and butt. B) the values of most of their players is over inflated so they appear better and C) their defence isn't great (placente,ponchettino and cavallero aren't very good.) They have samuel who is excelent but he can't do everything with ayala out of action.
Sat 08/06/02 at 16:37
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:

> And here come the excuses.

I wasnt making any excuses.

I hadnt even mentioned anything about Argentina having a weakened team before this thread.

Ashley made a point about Batistuta being a top player and I dont agree with him. All i agree with was that Batistuta *WAS* a top player...
Sat 08/06/02 at 15:30
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Or†ega wrote:
> As for Batistuta...

> And Yes, having the captain Ayala missing, was a major blow.


And here come the excuses.

If Argentina had won, it would have been "oh, and we did it with a weakened team" etc.


Argentina 0 - 1 Imbeciles


*Laughing all the way to the bank*

Though I'll still support England as far as they go, I don't really care what happens after this point. Beating that lot was better than winning the World Cup, and seeing the look on fat-boy Maradruggie's face was a real treat.
Sat 08/06/02 at 14:41
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Why do people keep saying it was a dive? he clearly got touched, ok then it had a smidge of dive but that goes with it. The foot was clearly out look at it the ball was not there his leg was.

But the Argentinians sportsmanship is dreadful all the way through it just makes me hate them even more, Simione goes to shake Beckhams hand before the taken of the penalty and the keeper he was pointing one way saying stuff like put it that way. It's just disappointing to see what they have to do, but Beckham stood up tall and took it nice
Sat 08/06/02 at 13:57
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Yeh sure, England did play better on the day. But only marginally.

As for Batistuta, he hardly played at all in qualifying and was left out of the squad completly for half of the qualifying phase. Crespo was the top man by far.


And Yes, having the captain Ayala missing, was a major blow.
Sat 08/06/02 at 13:43
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Although I agree that Owens was a dive, England Deserved to win, and the Argentinians are so innocent with all their Honest and Fair Tactics they use in game...

I bet kids learn a lot of good things from that.
Sat 08/06/02 at 13:40
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Look england wheter or not you claim that owen penalty claim was a dive or not was still blatantly deserved you can't complain anyway as the argentinians are only behind klinsman and the italy team in the diving rankings. England deserved the win anyway. Argentina may well be a better team but england out played them on the day and thats what counts.
+there is no such thing as a bad penalty which hits the back of the net.
Batistuta has the best scoring record out of anyone in the team and did a lot to get them there it is absolutely criminal to suggest he shouldn't be there especially as he has their only goal of the tournament.

The reason why they lost is a) because they had a bad day in midfield as a result of being out played by scholes and butt. B) the values of most of their players is over inflated so they appear better and C) their defence isn't great (placente,ponchettino and cavallero aren't very good.) They have samuel who is excelent but he can't do everything with ayala out of action.

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