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"Well Well Well...."

Whats going on eh?

The 3 favourites for the World cup have been beaten in the first round of the World Cup.

France went down to Senegal, Argentina got done by an Owen dive (hell, even Klinsmann said it was a dive...and he should know! :D) But I'm not argueing about that in here...

And know we got the main favourites Italy being beaten by Croatia?! Italians were bloody unlucky though.

I nearly forgot about Portugal being beat by the US...bloody hell...

This just goes to show anything can happen, and I think Brazil have to be considered as serious contenders for the Cup.

I still think it was a 'dive', but what Wookiee said is right.

The English have always played by the rules, and I think they should start acting a bit 'tougher'.

The ref was far to experianced to know it wasnt a dive he had a very good view of it too .... just like that hand of god and the cheating argie who when down in the last world cup as though pollaxed when Becham hardly touched him. Nop theres only one cheating team they are called the Argies or meatpackers if you like

I like to think it was a dive. It makes the victory even sweeter :D.

There was definitely contact, and Owen went down. It was played for, perhaps, but who cares?

The Argies have schemed and cheated many teams in the past - not just England - with their diving, handballs, hacking challenges and so on.

Good on Owen I say. The problem with the English in many sports is that they're too damn nice and gentlemanly when it comes to things like this, and it's about time they started getting tough.

Never mind playing to the letter of the law - push the rules. I'm not saying fall over at every challenge and kick lumps out of the opposition, but if you're in the area and get caught, don't bother trying to stay on your feet - go down. Play withing the rules, but bend them to the limit, just like everyone else does.

If you play fair and the opposition cheat, you won't win. There's no point bitching about it - play the buggers at their own game; you'll only stand a chance of winning on a level playing field.

If you try to trip a player bye sticking out your leg doesnt matter if theres minimal are a lot of contact its still a penalty.

he didnt dive, the argie player caught his knee, BUT owen did make a meal of the tackle

T'was clearly a dive.

Everyone oustide of England thinks it was a dive.

Please stop going on about it in every thread. I said i wasnt agueing about it in this thread, just mentioning it as to how one of the big teams got beat.

I agree with Sheepy it makes it alot funner to watch and of course England have a chance there 7/1 to win now i think which is good.

Owen dive!?! what are you on about, watch the game next time

Makes it fun to watch