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Now, I would like to open a post on the much debated question over the reality of wrestling.
If you use the word 'fake' loosely, then I suppose it is, but when you think about it more, you realise that it isn't 'fake', but extremely well planned and choreographed.
I once watched a programme about Bret Hart (the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be!!). It followed him on a typical day in his life. There was much discussion about the reality of wrestling between him and the interviewer. He told of how he and his brother Owen trained to be wrestlers with their father, who was also a pro wrestler, in the basement of their house. He explained how he had managed to perfect the techniques needed to wrestle professionally, and more to the point, he shed lots of light on the way moves are carried out.
I believe one of the quotes by Bret was "What people don't realise is, that every single one of those punches makes contact, if you're doing it right, it doesn't hurt." That one sentence on it's own grabbed me. It's when I first realised that it cannot be 'fake'. Well, it's fake in the sense that the guys aren't REALLY beating the hell out of each other, but how could it have been fake when Mick Foley was launched from the top of a steel cage and crashed through a table? Was it an illusion? No, that was him putting his body on the line for a living. What about the Perry Saturn incident in the WCW? I can't remember who the move was carried out on, but his opponent had been beaten and was lying on a table, and Saturn jumped off the top of a stage, which was at least 20 feet high, and crashed through the table with the other man. Definately not fake.
So my point is, maybe the punches and hits are not 100% real, but when it comes to suplexes, chokeslams and the like, HOW CAN YOU FAKE GRAVITY?
I thankyou.
If you use the word 'fake' loosely, then I suppose it is, but when you think about it more, you realise that it isn't 'fake', but extremely well planned and choreographed.
I once watched a programme about Bret Hart (the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be!!). It followed him on a typical day in his life. There was much discussion about the reality of wrestling between him and the interviewer. He told of how he and his brother Owen trained to be wrestlers with their father, who was also a pro wrestler, in the basement of their house. He explained how he had managed to perfect the techniques needed to wrestle professionally, and more to the point, he shed lots of light on the way moves are carried out.
I believe one of the quotes by Bret was "What people don't realise is, that every single one of those punches makes contact, if you're doing it right, it doesn't hurt." That one sentence on it's own grabbed me. It's when I first realised that it cannot be 'fake'. Well, it's fake in the sense that the guys aren't REALLY beating the hell out of each other, but how could it have been fake when Mick Foley was launched from the top of a steel cage and crashed through a table? Was it an illusion? No, that was him putting his body on the line for a living. What about the Perry Saturn incident in the WCW? I can't remember who the move was carried out on, but his opponent had been beaten and was lying on a table, and Saturn jumped off the top of a stage, which was at least 20 feet high, and crashed through the table with the other man. Definately not fake.
So my point is, maybe the punches and hits are not 100% real, but when it comes to suplexes, chokeslams and the like, HOW CAN YOU FAKE GRAVITY?
I thankyou.
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Ant wrote:
> In reply to the topic title...
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> Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
>
> Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
Great answer
> In reply to the topic title...
>
> Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
>
> Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
Great answer
I was off today, and I thought every one else was too.
Bah!
You weren't at school.
I'm stoned.
Bah!
You weren't at school.
I'm stoned.
Ant wrote:
> In reply to the topic title...
>
> Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
>
> Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
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You post at school?
You were at school?
> In reply to the topic title...
>
> Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
>
> Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
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You post at school?
You were at school?
I agree that wrestling is "Fake" to a certain degree, but using the word fake does give an image that anyone can do it and that's totally bogus. To be a wrestler you have to be able to lift atleast 150-200 pounds over your head, I know I can't do that. You still have to be ruff as F#*k to be able to wrestle.
The results are rigged and the matches are sumwhat cororgraphed(sorry bout the spelling), but the wrestlers are well trained professional atheletes. They are trained on how to fall properly so it doesn't hurt as much as it should.
You all should read Mick Foley's autobiography, in that book he never once lets on that wrestling is 100% real but he does give away some secrets of wrestling, like to "Bust him wide open" they punch down the forehead with their knuckles to split the skin, doesn't hurt that much. Also you all should watch the film "Beyond the mat" that good.
Anyway most people who watch wrestling know about most of this and know it's not completely real. We watch it because it's entertaining.
The results are rigged and the matches are sumwhat cororgraphed(sorry bout the spelling), but the wrestlers are well trained professional atheletes. They are trained on how to fall properly so it doesn't hurt as much as it should.
You all should read Mick Foley's autobiography, in that book he never once lets on that wrestling is 100% real but he does give away some secrets of wrestling, like to "Bust him wide open" they punch down the forehead with their knuckles to split the skin, doesn't hurt that much. Also you all should watch the film "Beyond the mat" that good.
Anyway most people who watch wrestling know about most of this and know it's not completely real. We watch it because it's entertaining.
In reply to the topic title...
Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
Yes to an extent, but also no to an extent.
Doesn't make sense but who cares? My legs hurt, I'm going home.
RM18 wrote:
> MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Well I trained as a wrestler for a few months, and it's all about
> selling.
>
> Try telling that to the Undertaker, Austin...
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hehe
> MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Well I trained as a wrestler for a few months, and it's all about
> selling.
>
> Try telling that to the Undertaker, Austin...
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hehe
MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Well I trained as a wrestler for a few months, and it's all about
> selling.
Try telling that to the Undertaker, Austin...
> Well I trained as a wrestler for a few months, and it's all about
> selling.
Try telling that to the Undertaker, Austin...
You've trained as a wrestler as well?
Are you trying to be the next Jean Claude Van Damme?
Are you trying to be the next Jean Claude Van Damme?
I don't like the word fake. According to the dictionary it means "not real; counterfeit." I don't think that describes wrestling any more than it does a soap or a pantomine.
Well I trained as a wrestler for a few months, and it's all about selling. Yes, it hurts when you get suplexed, but certainly not enough to make you lie on the ground, having spasms (like D'Von) It doesn't hurt as much as they let on, even getting hit with a steel chair doesn't hurt THAT much (though you sure as hell feel it!)
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