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Sat 18/05/02 at 21:01
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I've do it all the time I hear yourself say. What about it? Well, is playing with yourself better than playing with some friends or vice versa? I see shocked looks on your faces.
"Playing with your friends? That's disgusting."
This is the bit where I explain you have misinterpreted the question, your minds diseased by your perverted nature. No I'm talking games here.

Basically, what I want to know is whether you find playing games on your own more fun, then playing with some mates. I personally enjoy the latter. Although some games, are great fun on their own, such as Grand Theft Auto 3, Jedi Knight 2, Medal of Honor Allied Assault... I could go on forever... Nothing quite beats a multiplayer game, and in particular a cooperative game.

There is something great about the cooperative game. There is something great about having an extra human mind in a game. It gives you someone to socialise with, an aspect of gaming that I think needs immediate attention.

I don't know whether you have noticed this, but sometimes you are always the last person to get a game. For example, Max Payne, all my friends had completed it by the time I bought it. Interest in the game was basically gone, and this left me to gather my thoughts on my own. Most recently I have got Conkers Bad Fur Day. It really pains me to not be able to share the moments of pleasure I have had in this game. From the Terminator spoof to the Liverpudlian dung beetles. Sadly my friends have never played it, the game is also rather old, most people have lost interest in it. It's not good.

What I would love for developers to do, is make cooperative gaming more of a feature in the modern day game. With broadband beginning to enter more and more homes in Britain and basically every gamer having an internet gaming, surely games could be expanded in their online game potential. Sure it's great fun playing with friends in an online game like Return to Castle Wolfenstein, which is amazingly good fun when you have a few friends on the same server as yourself. You share all those brief moments that make your mouth open in disbelief and those comical times where your friend accidently makes a fool out of himself. For example, once on Counter-strike in a clan game, we were being annihilated by the opposition. I was the only survivor on our team of the round, and all their team was alive, and moving around the map together. I happened to accidently find them, as I walked up and saw about ten of them in my view. I comically walked behind them and sneaked off to a bomb site where I planted the C4. They didn't even notice me. That was a classic moment, that remains in me and my friends online gaming memory. It's moments like that when you truely value playing with friends.

But just imagine this. Playing a single player game, only with a friend over the internet. The both of you go through the campaign, solving puzzles together, and working together as a team. That is my idea of fun. I'm fed up of the traditional game. Shooting games for example are getting slightly boring. The same idea is used again and again... clear rooms with a weapon, gain more weapons, complete the game. Jedi Knight 2 for example, imagine if a friend of yours could take the place of your friend Jan, instead of you just playing Kyle Katarn. The both of you could work together solving tricky puzzles by any means necessary. It would me great fun. It's great fun, so why isn't it more of a feature in games?

Lets face it, I don't know about yourself but I am beginning to find playing on my own boring. More and more am I expanding my interest into games where there is a great focus on playing with friends. Operation Flashpoint for example, is currently my favourite game of all time, and Timesplitters is best enjoyed with a friend. In Operation Flashpoint for example, I am still yet to complete the campaign. It starts to get boring on your own, but in multiplayer, especially in the cooperative missions, where you work together to complete objectives, I never do get bored (especially with the ability to make and download other missions). There is something quite nice about playing with a friend, planning your mission, and your next course of action. For example, one great mission I have played involves stopping a convoy. You have a good few minutes to plan and prepare for the convoy, a good few minutes where we try out different tactics in an attempt to beat the enemy, such as planting mines along the winding road.

So are you sick of playing with yourself? Don't you wish your social life could be incorporated into your gaming. I certainly am. If games want to get more original, and get more popular there is only one thing in my opinion they must do. Fancy new graphics is one thing, and gameplay of course will always be the main factor, but if a game wants to stand out in this evergrowing crowd, cooperative gaming has to be the way to go.
Sat 18/05/02 at 21:26
"Mimmargh!"
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The big problem with console multiplayer is that you can see each others screen. This destroys the element of gut wrentching suprise when experienced players of the game are involved. E.g. Goldeneye.
Sat 18/05/02 at 21:20
Posts: 0
Playing with yourself is always a good way to pass an hour or two and can be very enjoyable but nothing quite beats playing with others.Particulary the fact you can put each other off by grabbing their joystick and giving it a good yank in the wrong direction(oooh errr).

But on the serious side multiplayer gaming is great, online gaming is good but doesn't quite have the same feel as having some mates over and playing great games like Timesplitters, Goldeneye and international track and field etc... These games turn gaming into a social thing which is great. Where as playing online although fun just isn't the same because you can't see who your playing with and can't talk to them as if there right next to you.
Sat 18/05/02 at 21:01
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"Fear my wrath..."
Posts: 2,044
I've do it all the time I hear yourself say. What about it? Well, is playing with yourself better than playing with some friends or vice versa? I see shocked looks on your faces.
"Playing with your friends? That's disgusting."
This is the bit where I explain you have misinterpreted the question, your minds diseased by your perverted nature. No I'm talking games here.

Basically, what I want to know is whether you find playing games on your own more fun, then playing with some mates. I personally enjoy the latter. Although some games, are great fun on their own, such as Grand Theft Auto 3, Jedi Knight 2, Medal of Honor Allied Assault... I could go on forever... Nothing quite beats a multiplayer game, and in particular a cooperative game.

There is something great about the cooperative game. There is something great about having an extra human mind in a game. It gives you someone to socialise with, an aspect of gaming that I think needs immediate attention.

I don't know whether you have noticed this, but sometimes you are always the last person to get a game. For example, Max Payne, all my friends had completed it by the time I bought it. Interest in the game was basically gone, and this left me to gather my thoughts on my own. Most recently I have got Conkers Bad Fur Day. It really pains me to not be able to share the moments of pleasure I have had in this game. From the Terminator spoof to the Liverpudlian dung beetles. Sadly my friends have never played it, the game is also rather old, most people have lost interest in it. It's not good.

What I would love for developers to do, is make cooperative gaming more of a feature in the modern day game. With broadband beginning to enter more and more homes in Britain and basically every gamer having an internet gaming, surely games could be expanded in their online game potential. Sure it's great fun playing with friends in an online game like Return to Castle Wolfenstein, which is amazingly good fun when you have a few friends on the same server as yourself. You share all those brief moments that make your mouth open in disbelief and those comical times where your friend accidently makes a fool out of himself. For example, once on Counter-strike in a clan game, we were being annihilated by the opposition. I was the only survivor on our team of the round, and all their team was alive, and moving around the map together. I happened to accidently find them, as I walked up and saw about ten of them in my view. I comically walked behind them and sneaked off to a bomb site where I planted the C4. They didn't even notice me. That was a classic moment, that remains in me and my friends online gaming memory. It's moments like that when you truely value playing with friends.

But just imagine this. Playing a single player game, only with a friend over the internet. The both of you go through the campaign, solving puzzles together, and working together as a team. That is my idea of fun. I'm fed up of the traditional game. Shooting games for example are getting slightly boring. The same idea is used again and again... clear rooms with a weapon, gain more weapons, complete the game. Jedi Knight 2 for example, imagine if a friend of yours could take the place of your friend Jan, instead of you just playing Kyle Katarn. The both of you could work together solving tricky puzzles by any means necessary. It would me great fun. It's great fun, so why isn't it more of a feature in games?

Lets face it, I don't know about yourself but I am beginning to find playing on my own boring. More and more am I expanding my interest into games where there is a great focus on playing with friends. Operation Flashpoint for example, is currently my favourite game of all time, and Timesplitters is best enjoyed with a friend. In Operation Flashpoint for example, I am still yet to complete the campaign. It starts to get boring on your own, but in multiplayer, especially in the cooperative missions, where you work together to complete objectives, I never do get bored (especially with the ability to make and download other missions). There is something quite nice about playing with a friend, planning your mission, and your next course of action. For example, one great mission I have played involves stopping a convoy. You have a good few minutes to plan and prepare for the convoy, a good few minutes where we try out different tactics in an attempt to beat the enemy, such as planting mines along the winding road.

So are you sick of playing with yourself? Don't you wish your social life could be incorporated into your gaming. I certainly am. If games want to get more original, and get more popular there is only one thing in my opinion they must do. Fancy new graphics is one thing, and gameplay of course will always be the main factor, but if a game wants to stand out in this evergrowing crowd, cooperative gaming has to be the way to go.

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