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Thu 16/05/02 at 14:24
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That's right. After all, they say all good things come to an end. Someday, maybe not someday soon, but someday, the world on which we live will cease to exist.

But how will this come to pass? What will happen to us? What part if any, will mankind play in the destruction of the lump of rock we call our home?

There are of course many opinions on such an open subject.
Here are a few of them:

"THE WORLD WILL END IN YEAR XXXX" prophecies
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Stupidity, all of them. Most of these centred around the year 2000, an event which, obviously, never came to pass. The kind of person who comes to this conclusion, or believes this sort of thing, is just a defeatist. There is never any evidence linking a certain year with the end of the world, and indeed, the year 2000 was likely chosen simply because it was a nice round number, and something for anyone not a defeatest to look forward to. Prephetic tellings are ludicrous.


"WORLD WAR III" stuff
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Well, with today's technology, it's easilly thinkable that we could just get carried away pounding each other and accidentally blow ourselves up. But are we really that stupid? The higher echelons of the military in most civilised countries are made up of some very clued in individuals, and some tactical geniuses. Would these people seem like the types to "accidentally" blow up the planet they're standing on? It seems unlikely. But then, there are the developing countries, many of whom now have nuclear weapons, these are concievably a threat. But then, the superior firepower of other nations, and the mere concept that if one of their nuclear warheads so much as farts wrongly at a western country means a retal that will flatten them completely, should keep them in line. So I don't really see us blowing oourselves up anytime soon.


"GLOBAL WARMING" claims of doom and despair.
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Yup, that's right. the ozone layer is coming apart at the seams. Everything from cigarette smoking to car fumes to cows eating grass is producing chemicals which attack the ozone layer, and allow solar radiation to come down and pummel the earth. This is causing increased chances of developing skin cancer. At the moment it's causing very little else, but over time it has the potential to change the earth's climate, heating the North Pole, potentially melting it, which would certainly change the face of the planet. Our little island (the UK) would drop underwater like a modern day Atlantis, and all it's history will be lost. and ours wouldn't be the only island to go. A scenario like Waterworld is highly unlikely, but we certainly could see a shortage of living space. But not the end of the world. Just a harder one to live in.


"ALIENS CAN COME FROM OUTERSPACE AND ENSLAVE US" paranoia.
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Ok, so people have a right to be afraid of what they cannot understand. There may be aliens out there, there may not. NO-ONE KNOWS. Any civilisation capable of crossing the great void between world will surely be far more advanced than we are. Should they be aggressive, what could we do to stop them? Pretty much nothing really. But then, why would aliens waste the resources to cross possibly hundreds or thousands of light years to kill of a bunch of people they've never met? For the resources? No. They could go to any world, without resistance, and take whatever they wanted. They consider us a threat? Err, no. They can travel light years, we can't. They rock, we don't. The only explanation is that they do it for fun, which seems highly irrational for a species capable of such technical advancements. And surely a silly thing to do, given that there surely can't be too many species out there.

So I wouldn't say that we need to be afraid of any invasions for a while, at least until we've had some contact, and a chance to extend our warped human politics across the galaxy.

So what's left? Not much to be afraid of really is there? There is one thing more I can think of.

TIME the killer of all things.
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All things DO come to an end, time, by it's very nature is proof of this. If it has a beginning, common sense dictates it has an end. if it takes a hundred years, if it takes a thousand, or a billion, or 50 billion, eventally this world won't exist, neither will it's Sun, or even the galaxy. One day even the universe will cease to exist, and then, even time.


The world is coming to an end, it's just a matter of time.
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Fri 17/05/02 at 17:41
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Fri 17/05/02 at 16:39
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Insane Bartender wrote:
>
>
> "GLOBAL WARMING" claims of doom and despair.
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Yup, that's right. the ozone layer is coming apart at the seams.
> Everything from cigarette smoking to car fumes to cows eating grass is
> producing chemicals which attack the ozone layer, and allow solar
> radiation to come down and pummel the earth. This is causing increased
> chances of developing skin cancer. At the moment it's causing very
> little else, but over time it has the potential to change the earth's
> climate, heating the North Pole, potentially melting it, which would
> certainly change the face of the planet. Our little island (the UK)
> would drop underwater like a modern day Atlantis, and all it's history
> will be lost. and ours wouldn't be the only island to go. A scenario
> like Waterworld is highly unlikely, but we certainly could see a
> shortage of living space. But not the end of the world. Just a harder
> one to live in.
>
>

Global Warming has nothing to do with the hole in the ozone layer. Global warming is the increase of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide mainly) being produced from burning fossil fuels, which then speeds up the naturally occuring Greenhouse Effect. The Greenhouse effect happens when the surface of the earth is heated by the sun, heat tries to escape from the earth, but is trapped by the layer of gases. If we increase the layer of gases, less heat can escape, which causes the earth the begin climate change.


The hole in the ozone layer is completely different and caused by CFCs - Harmful ulta-violent rays can get through the atmospheric layer thus causing more skin cancer.
Thu 16/05/02 at 22:52
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well i'll already be dead by then :p
Thu 16/05/02 at 21:43
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Indeed the sun will burn out but it has a long supply of hydrogen gas still to consume, about 300,000 years. However when it does run out the seas will boil and we will all die with superific burns.
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:33
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> That's right. After all, they say all good things come to an end.

I guess we're pretty safe then...;)


> "GLOBAL WARMING" claims of doom and despair.
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Yup, that's right. the ozone layer is coming apart at the seams.
> Everything from cigarette smoking to car fumes to cows eating grass is
> producing chemicals which attack the ozone layer, and allow solar
> radiation to come down and pummel the earth. This is causing increased
> chances of developing skin cancer. At the moment it's causing very
> little else, but over time it has the potential to change the earth's
> climate, heating the North Pole, potentially melting it, which would
> certainly change the face of the planet. Our little island (the UK)
> would drop underwater like a modern day Atlantis, and all it's history
> will be lost. and ours wouldn't be the only island to go. A scenario
> like Waterworld is highly unlikely, but we certainly could see a
> shortage of living space. But not the end of the world. Just a harder
> one to live in.

This is most likely, not just with rising sea levels, but unbearable heat and the effects of mass polluction.

>
> "ALIENS CAN COME FROM OUTERSPACE AND ENSLAVE US" paranoia.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Why would aliens waste the resources to cross possibly
> hundreds or thousands of light years to kill of a bunch of people
> they've never met? For the resources? No. They could go to any world,
> without resistance, and take whatever they wanted. They consider us a
> threat? Err, no. They can travel light years, we can't. They rock, we
> don't. The only explanation is that they do it for fun, which seems
> highly irrational for a species capable of such technical
> advancements.

Well if they have some human morals we're buggered, we hunt for the fun of it and many ppl kill many things for the fun of it. Maybe they'd be the same.

> TIME the killer of all things.
> -------------------------------
>
> All things DO come to an end, time, by it's very nature is proof of
> this. If it has a beginning, common sense dictates it has an end. if
> it takes a hundred years, if it takes a thousand, or a billion, or 50
> billion, eventally this world won't exist, neither will it's Sun, or
> even the galaxy. One day even the universe will cease to exist, and
> then, even time.
>
Yeah the sun will eventually burn itself out, but our biggest threat for the next 100 hundred years are effects of polluction and terroism.
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:32
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stop complaing everybodys different i would take a bullet for someone i don't know all life is 4 fun
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:27
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Insane Bartender wrote:

>The higher echelons of the military in most civilised countries are made up of some very clued in individuals, and some tactical geniuses. Would these people seem like the types to "accidentally" blow up the planet they're standing on?

If you look at the record of the US in hitting the stuff it's aiming at, then you probably wouldn't be so confident. They've blown up aspirin factories in Sudan (oops); the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia (oops again); some tribal elders on their way to negotiations to form the Afghan interim government (oops); a Red Cross centre in Kabul (oh dear); a bunch of Canadian peacekeepers (oops!); not to mention numerous civilians who look nothing like military targets.

In my opinion the people to be LEAST trusted with great big bombs are the idiots trained to kill people with great big bombs.
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:18
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i belive that the end of the world is only a live cycei mean one day we r all going to die so i say don't worry the end BUT DON'T COMMITE SUASIDE THAT IS TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT.
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:18
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i belive that the end of the world is only a live cycei mean one day we r all going to die so i say don't worry the end BUT DON'T COMMITE SUASIDE THAT IS TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT.
Thu 16/05/02 at 19:12
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Posts: 8,220
Insane Bartender wrote:
> "WORLD WAR III" stuff
> ----------------------
The higher echelons of
> the military in most civilised countries are made up of some very
> clued in individuals, and some tactical geniuses. Would these people
> seem like the types to "accidentally" blow up the planet
> they're standing on? It seems unlikely.

*cough*georgebush*cough*

actually, that's probably not too much of a threat, he'd first have to work out where on the globe his target was. We have pleanty of time : )

actually, in fairness, bush seems to be getting better, to me. Still could never bring myself to vote him to a position of power and responsibility. Well, unless he was standing in france or holland.

Better stop there, before i start offending people... too late? Sorry.



> "GLOBAL WARMING" claims of doom and despair.
> --------------------------------------------
>
> over time it has the potential to change the earth's
> climate, heating the North Pole, potentially melting it, which would
> certainly change the face of the planet. Our little island (the UK)
> would drop underwater like a modern day Atlantis, and all it's history
> will be lost.

It's actually not a problem if the ice around the north pole melts, as the ice is floating in water, so if it melts, won't raise sea levels. (Lower density, floating body displacing its mass, and other science i can't be bothered with at the mo).
The south pole is the problem, as the ice is on a land mass, much of it held above sea level. If that melts, then the water runs into the sea, and raises the level. And we all get wet.



Good post. I'm banking on the sun collapsing, and sucking us into its increased gravitational field. Sadly we probably won't be around to see it happen. Ah well, have to make do with a video and a take away instead.

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