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"Balls to Star Wars. Gimme Agents"

Forget any residual nasty-mouth taste from the let down that is Phantom Menace and the nagging suspicion that Attack of The Clones will mess your brainpan.
The teaser trailer for The Matrix:Reloaded has been released.
And it rocks.

Morpheus with a sword.
Agent Smith and a load of crows.
Neo kicking Virii face in a mansion. With two swords.
Trinity doing backflips wearing that leather.
Agent Smith ssssmiling evillllly to the cammmmmeraaaaaa
Morpheus & Trinity in a car sliding to a halt.
Running
Jumping
Kicking
Punching

I’m pretty much “meh” about Star Wars now. I love the originals. I grew up with them, 1st movie I ever saw at the cinema was Star Wars and I was 4. I still remember that huge ship passing over the screen and me ducking.
Stars Wars, Empire & Jedi are perfect films. But why?
Are they absolutely faultless in every respect? Not at all. Ewoks are lame, Chewie giving the Tarzan Holler destroys the “in a galaxy far far away” idea etc etc.
But they belong to my generation, they are the defining cinema moments of our childhood.
Trust me, if you ever went to the triple-bill in Harlow Odeon with Stromtroopers serving Ki-Ora and Cornettos down the front after the first film ended (ask someone older about these classic cinema traditions), then you understand why Star Wars 4, 5 and 6 are that important.

And I remember seeing The Phantom Menace being reported before it came out. Me and my flatmate would sit and look and pics from sets going “Dude, 17 years waiting will be over next year. Awesome”.
But instead of Star Wars Episode 1, we got The Phantom Menace.
It lacked everything that we loved from the originals.
No sense of wonder of adventure. Obi-Wan isn’t a young guy with a mullet/rat-tail. He’s the old hermit in the dunes of Tattooine. Qui-Gon? Who?
No droids, no stormtroopers, nothing we remember as being good.
It blew the pony.
Attack of the Clones may be alright, I’m not expecting anything great so I can’t feel let down and sit there going “…well it said Star Wars but…I don’t know…I feel sad”.

Personally The Matrix had the same effect on me as Star Wars did as a nipper.
I knew nothing about it really, The Wachowski Bros made Bound and that was cool. I knew this had Keanu “Dude!” Reeves in but I went anyway.
And it quadraspazzed me as much as Star Wars did.
Ok, so instead of a massive ship hoving overhead at the start, you had Carrie Ann-Moss in skin-tight leather running around walls.
Which suits me.
The Matrix just had a sense of adventure, fun and “This is cool!” that Star Wars had. None of the laboured crap from Phantom Menace (note to Lucas: Trade Embargos are not Star Wars. Star Wars was rescuing the princess and defeating the baddy. Not lizard wars against droids).
I loved every single moment of The Matrix.
Why? Because it was just cool.
It looked ultra-cool. They even wore shades and did slo-mo stuff.
I’m sorry, but if you even slightly love cinema for experience, then coming out of that movie made you want to run along the wall and said “I know Kung-Fu”.
Yes, the plot was a bit basic. Yes the effects are *now* cliché but you’d never seen that before.

Think of the moments from that movie:
Trinity at the start.
Neo’s training “I know Kung-Fu”
The Lobby Scene and Morpheus rescue.
It was 100% good-fun, uber-stylish film making with a sense of fun to it.
Unlike Star Wars Episode 1, 2 and 3.
That seems more and more like laboured, over self-important toss.

But The Matrix: Reloaded? I want to see this now. And we get The Matrix:Revolutions 3 months after Reloaded.
That rocks.
You can stuff your Jedi/Padawan/Jar-Jar/Annie rubbish up your trash compactor.
I’m going with Morpheus, Agent Smith and Neo.
They have the cool toys and enjoy their ride.

I've only seen the Matrix once and I don't remember that much of it. Maybe I'll give it another go. I remember Keanu Reeves' character giving people minidiscs for some reason or another (I'm guessing it wasn't demos for Dogstar).

Yep, Agent Smith was the best character for me too.

That slooowwww speecccchhhh, the disdain. Kicking Keanu "Whoa" Reeves in the subway station.
Actually I haven't watched The Matrix for a few months, I must revisit tonight.

"I know Kung-Fu"
"In one life you are Thomas Andersonnnn, in the other you go by the hacker alias of Neoooooooo"

And the Subway fight.
Best fighty bit of the past 5 years for me.

I love the "humanity virus" speech in the matrix. Agent Smith rocked. I couldn't help but think of his character in the matrix when I saw him in LOTR.

"Welcome to Rivendale, Frodo Baggins"

reeked of

"That is the sound of inevitability, it is the sound of your death. Goodbye, Mister Anderson!"

rock on!

Insane Bartender wrote:
> Yes, the 2 Matrix films to come certainly hold my interest. But i
> still hold a candle of hope for Star Wars,
--

I do to an extent, but I'm not placing the same amount of "NEW STAR WARS! COOL!" that I had for Phantom.
I'll admit to being a total fanboy right up until I saw the film itself.
It was all good for a while.
*That* music, the scrawl, Jedi.
But it started to go wrong from the moment Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon started to speak.
Things I liked from TPM:

Darth Maul, the Jedi Council stuff, and the final 25 mins when stuff happened.
But Naboo, the submersible, Jar-Jar etc just made me hang my head and wish for not having 25years of expectation behind it.

However, The Matrix came out of nowhere and blew my bloody doors off.

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros. com/rl_cmp/sequel_trailers.html

Space before com

For the trailers

Yes, the 2 Matrix films to come certainly hold my interest. But i still hold a candle of hope for Star Wars, as Mr Lucas has hinted at a third trilogy, following the events of ep 6. He has also said that he will NOT direct it.

If someone does a decent version of the Thrawn trilogy (no jarjar, no girlie stuff, just tactical genius and political manouvering and a rocking storyline) i will wet my pants with glee.

IB

Forget any residual nasty-mouth taste from the let down that is Phantom Menace and the nagging suspicion that Attack of The Clones will mess your brainpan.
The teaser trailer for The Matrix:Reloaded has been released.
And it rocks.

Morpheus with a sword.
Agent Smith and a load of crows.
Neo kicking Virii face in a mansion. With two swords.
Trinity doing backflips wearing that leather.
Agent Smith ssssmiling evillllly to the cammmmmeraaaaaa
Morpheus & Trinity in a car sliding to a halt.
Running
Jumping
Kicking
Punching

I’m pretty much “meh” about Star Wars now. I love the originals. I grew up with them, 1st movie I ever saw at the cinema was Star Wars and I was 4. I still remember that huge ship passing over the screen and me ducking.
Stars Wars, Empire & Jedi are perfect films. But why?
Are they absolutely faultless in every respect? Not at all. Ewoks are lame, Chewie giving the Tarzan Holler destroys the “in a galaxy far far away” idea etc etc.
But they belong to my generation, they are the defining cinema moments of our childhood.
Trust me, if you ever went to the triple-bill in Harlow Odeon with Stromtroopers serving Ki-Ora and Cornettos down the front after the first film ended (ask someone older about these classic cinema traditions), then you understand why Star Wars 4, 5 and 6 are that important.

And I remember seeing The Phantom Menace being reported before it came out. Me and my flatmate would sit and look and pics from sets going “Dude, 17 years waiting will be over next year. Awesome”.
But instead of Star Wars Episode 1, we got The Phantom Menace.
It lacked everything that we loved from the originals.
No sense of wonder of adventure. Obi-Wan isn’t a young guy with a mullet/rat-tail. He’s the old hermit in the dunes of Tattooine. Qui-Gon? Who?
No droids, no stormtroopers, nothing we remember as being good.
It blew the pony.
Attack of the Clones may be alright, I’m not expecting anything great so I can’t feel let down and sit there going “…well it said Star Wars but…I don’t know…I feel sad”.

Personally The Matrix had the same effect on me as Star Wars did as a nipper.
I knew nothing about it really, The Wachowski Bros made Bound and that was cool. I knew this had Keanu “Dude!” Reeves in but I went anyway.
And it quadraspazzed me as much as Star Wars did.
Ok, so instead of a massive ship hoving overhead at the start, you had Carrie Ann-Moss in skin-tight leather running around walls.
Which suits me.
The Matrix just had a sense of adventure, fun and “This is cool!” that Star Wars had. None of the laboured crap from Phantom Menace (note to Lucas: Trade Embargos are not Star Wars. Star Wars was rescuing the princess and defeating the baddy. Not lizard wars against droids).
I loved every single moment of The Matrix.
Why? Because it was just cool.
It looked ultra-cool. They even wore shades and did slo-mo stuff.
I’m sorry, but if you even slightly love cinema for experience, then coming out of that movie made you want to run along the wall and said “I know Kung-Fu”.
Yes, the plot was a bit basic. Yes the effects are *now* cliché but you’d never seen that before.

Think of the moments from that movie:
Trinity at the start.
Neo’s training “I know Kung-Fu”
The Lobby Scene and Morpheus rescue.
It was 100% good-fun, uber-stylish film making with a sense of fun to it.
Unlike Star Wars Episode 1, 2 and 3.
That seems more and more like laboured, over self-important toss.

But The Matrix: Reloaded? I want to see this now. And we get The Matrix:Revolutions 3 months after Reloaded.
That rocks.
You can stuff your Jedi/Padawan/Jar-Jar/Annie rubbish up your trash compactor.
I’m going with Morpheus, Agent Smith and Neo.
They have the cool toys and enjoy their ride.