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Sat 11/05/02 at 20:35
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Let's face facts: the PS2 launch was so far off the proverbial mark that not even NASA could locate it. Yet despite this, the console sold out well before launch and will go ontos sell over 100 million units.

Why? Because of underhand marketting by Sony. Fake "demos" run off supercomputers (I have yet to see a 70 man Tekken brawl), and promises of online gaming that have only just materialised are key examples. The way Sony managed to steal the front page of magazines just as Sega made an announcement about the Dreamcast...

Sega, with the Dreamcast produced a pretty neat piece of kit. Original, innovative games, more than enough exclusives and revolutions like standardised console gaming should have paved the way to success... it failed.

So here we are in the ashes of the Dreamcast, and it seems that Nintendo have learned from Sega's mistakes: play the media. It isn't enough to make a good console- this isn't even necissary. What you need to break the market is media control.

Nintendo have gone about this pretty well. Purposely allowing details of the console's launch to be "leaked" only hours before they were to be announced grabbed media attention- every site and newspaper reported the story thinking they were getting details a head of time. Nintendo's E3 line up has been "leaked" too- just a few days before it was to be formally announced. Guess what? Every gaming site carried the news as a top story.

Meanwhile Nintendo haven't been too kind to serious gamers. They've just stopped retro importers from selling imported American SNES games that never came out in this country anyway. They've even gone to the lengths to make Luigi's Mansion available for puchase only- you won't be able to rnt it anywhere.

But Nintendo have realised that none of this matters. As long as they continue to get good news out into papers and prime time advertising they should do just fine. Most gamers won't know about the Luigi's Mansion news, and won't associate the lack of a copy in Blobkbusters with Nintendo.

That's what it's all about- disassociation. Sony managed to blame the lack of PS2 consoles at launch on the massive demand- ignoring the blatent scandels that arrose after the company's chip manufacturing plant failed to reach quality control standards.

The nice guys, like Sega, admitted fully that the console delay was their fault- they hdn't the capacity for online gaming on day one, so they delayed.

Just goes to show, nice guys finnish last...

Sonic
Sun 12/05/02 at 19:49
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Another thing is why have Ninty made it so easy for JAP Gamecube's to be modded to play US Gamecubes? (and visa versa)

Just to cut costs of manufacturing the console? Could be I suppose...

If I remember correctly it is a very simple process and was in a Nintendo magazine not too long ago.
Sun 12/05/02 at 19:40
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Well, they can't...


Legally they lost the case against the game gennie, and that will follow through to this.

Physically, Datel action replay things are programmable (with the codes) and so should bypass any new game security codes



However, Ninty could change the chips on the GC making all importing chips ineffective...
Sun 12/05/02 at 19:29
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It will be interesting to see if Nintendo do anything about this import playing disc from Datel being released for the GameCube.

Can they really do anything about it?

I hope not...I really want to get Resident Evil for £28.17 on import :)
Sun 12/05/02 at 17:26
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That and also Games Master.

I think they should stop it now though...

:)
Sun 12/05/02 at 17:23
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Liquid H²O wrote:
> Sorry, but it's hard to miss. All games magazines have some news of
> pokemon in.


wahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

that'd be the official ninty mag or something then

haahahahahahahahaaaa....
Sun 12/05/02 at 17:23
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Liquid H²O wrote:
> Sorry, but it's hard to miss. All games magazines have some news of
> pokemon in.

...unfortunatley.
Sun 12/05/02 at 16:22
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Take it easy. There's no judgement here... ;-)
Sun 12/05/02 at 16:03
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Sorry, but it's hard to miss. All games magazines have some news of pokemon in.
Sun 12/05/02 at 16:01
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Liquid H²O wrote:
> I also think, ROM's are okay if you want to download old snes/nes
> games or sega games, but it's when you have games like Pokemon Crystal
> that has just been released for only a few weeks, and there's a rom of
> it on the internet for free.

Did this man just admit to knowing the name if the latest Pokemon game.


(holds laughter)
Sun 12/05/02 at 15:55
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I also think, ROM's are okay if you want to download old snes/nes games or sega games, but it's when you have games like Pokemon Crystal that has just been released for only a few weeks, and there's a rom of it on the internet for free.

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