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That’s what you do here. The more money you have, the better a person you are. If you're rich, you can go and buy £200 Nike trainers that prove to the world that you are rich and thus a good person. You're so rich that you can advertise a company that uses child labor so it's shareholders and executives can live in big houses and drink the best wine and eat fine food, when their 'employees' do not even have the facilities to live.
Yes, advertise. See that little tick on your trainer? That’s advertising, and for some reason you have paid an extra £40 upwards to advertise a company. Surely that isn't right…if someone wants me to advertise them, they pay me. You say its stylish? Well, I bet those wonderful people at Nike can't wait for Channel 4s owners to be 'stylish' and pay Nike a couple of million so that they can have that little trademark tick in the bottom right hand corner of every program. Or on every page of your beloved Hello magazine.
I wouldn't mind if it was a band you liked, or a charity you wanted to support, or a philosophical principle. Come to think of it, maybe it is a philosophical principle for most of you - 'I support the theory that child slavery is OK, gluttony at the expense of the needy is fine, and you don't mind being one of the mindless masses doing exactly as Nike say'.
If I was spotted coming out of a charity shop by one of you morons, you would call me 'cheap', or the most loathsome of you would call me a 'pikey'. You would think that I was unbearably uncool, supporting a company that does its utmost to help people. This would probably be thought whilst wearing Nike trainers, proving to the whole world that you support a company that doesn't really care about making easy money at the expense of the same people that the charity is trying to help. Apparently, caring about other people isn't cool.
'Will we ever get to the point that we realize we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes?' - Michael Moore.
Yes, advertise. See that little tick on your trainer? That’s advertising, and for some reason you have paid an extra £40 upwards to advertise a company. Surely that isn't right…if someone wants me to advertise them, they pay me. You say its stylish? Well, I bet those wonderful people at Nike can't wait for Channel 4s owners to be 'stylish' and pay Nike a couple of million so that they can have that little trademark tick in the bottom right hand corner of every program. Or on every page of your beloved Hello magazine.
I wouldn't mind if it was a band you liked, or a charity you wanted to support, or a philosophical principle. Come to think of it, maybe it is a philosophical principle for most of you - 'I support the theory that child slavery is OK, gluttony at the expense of the needy is fine, and you don't mind being one of the mindless masses doing exactly as Nike say'.
If I was spotted coming out of a charity shop by one of you morons, you would call me 'cheap', or the most loathsome of you would call me a 'pikey'. You would think that I was unbearably uncool, supporting a company that does its utmost to help people. This would probably be thought whilst wearing Nike trainers, proving to the whole world that you support a company that doesn't really care about making easy money at the expense of the same people that the charity is trying to help. Apparently, caring about other people isn't cool.
'Will we ever get to the point that we realize we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes?' - Michael Moore.
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Well I agree with Mouldy on this one.
*shrugs*
I can't convince anyone else, I've tried.
I don't feel comfortable wearing items produced by child-labour, therefore I don't buy that stuff.
Personal choice.
*shrugs*
I can't convince anyone else, I've tried.
I don't feel comfortable wearing items produced by child-labour, therefore I don't buy that stuff.
Personal choice.
Ant Ant wrote:
> Heard a nice quote the other day, not sure if it applies to this but
> still. It went something like this:
>
> "If you do things right, most people won't realise that you did
> anything at all."
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That quote was from Futurama, I saw it last night :D
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> Ah, I remember where the quote was from now. Futurama.
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Grrrrr... I wanted to say that.
> Heard a nice quote the other day, not sure if it applies to this but
> still. It went something like this:
>
> "If you do things right, most people won't realise that you did
> anything at all."
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That quote was from Futurama, I saw it last night :D
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> Ah, I remember where the quote was from now. Futurama.
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Grrrrr... I wanted to say that.
Just about to post a true story about this...
Stryke wrote:
> I know about the child labour thing, and I still buy branded clothes.
> Not so much Nike, but stuff like Vans, Billabong and Quiksilver.
> Because thats what I like wearing. Sounds a bit selfish, and it is.
> I'm a child of the 90s. Sorry.
I said this on another topic but I think it bears repeating: people have just made Nike, Gap, McDonalds etc into scapegoats. If every single one of these companies went out of business tomorrow then the world would still be filled with poverty and child labour. We need to change the whole system because, right now, there is no way of avoiding goods that have exploited third-world poverty. It doesn't matter if you're buying rice, trainers or gold dust: chances are that you're screwing someone over in Asia, Africa or South America.
> I know about the child labour thing, and I still buy branded clothes.
> Not so much Nike, but stuff like Vans, Billabong and Quiksilver.
> Because thats what I like wearing. Sounds a bit selfish, and it is.
> I'm a child of the 90s. Sorry.
I said this on another topic but I think it bears repeating: people have just made Nike, Gap, McDonalds etc into scapegoats. If every single one of these companies went out of business tomorrow then the world would still be filled with poverty and child labour. We need to change the whole system because, right now, there is no way of avoiding goods that have exploited third-world poverty. It doesn't matter if you're buying rice, trainers or gold dust: chances are that you're screwing someone over in Asia, Africa or South America.
I know about the child labour thing, and I still buy branded clothes. Not so much Nike, but stuff like Vans, Billabong and Quiksilver. Because thats what I like wearing. Sounds a bit selfish, and it is. I'm a child of the 90s. Sorry.
What you seem to assume is that the people who buy Nike stuff actually know about the child labour.
Well, they don't.
How can you ridicule someone for something they know nothing about?
And don't give me the "Well, they could look into it" line either. How many people would think to themselves "Oohh, I'm bored, so I'll just look into Nike's employment strategy, shall I?".
Well, they don't.
How can you ridicule someone for something they know nothing about?
And don't give me the "Well, they could look into it" line either. How many people would think to themselves "Oohh, I'm bored, so I'll just look into Nike's employment strategy, shall I?".
I stopped buying brand clothes a few years ago when I came to my senses and told anyone who went about judging people on their clothes to feck off.
Now I wear plain stuff and I rule... GAP are worse... never bought anything out there.
Now I wear plain stuff and I rule... GAP are worse... never bought anything out there.
Heard a nice quote the other day, not sure if it applies to this but still. It went something like this:
"If you do things right, most people won't realise that you did anything at all."
And it's true. You watch the News, and it's all bad. Murders, fires, bombs, wars etc. Hardly ever do they talk about people who have done something really good. Missionaries (sp?), people who live in war-torn countries for years to help them through, with no real reward.
It's the same as being at school. Do something wrong like beat up a kid, nick some cash etc. will make you popular. If you help someone, then you will either be ridiculed or no one will say anything.
Ah, I remember where the quote was from now. Futurama.
"If you do things right, most people won't realise that you did anything at all."
And it's true. You watch the News, and it's all bad. Murders, fires, bombs, wars etc. Hardly ever do they talk about people who have done something really good. Missionaries (sp?), people who live in war-torn countries for years to help them through, with no real reward.
It's the same as being at school. Do something wrong like beat up a kid, nick some cash etc. will make you popular. If you help someone, then you will either be ridiculed or no one will say anything.
Ah, I remember where the quote was from now. Futurama.
lol
Ah, but if I didn't buy Nike shoes, wouldn't those poor kids be unemployed?
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