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Ok this post will act like a massive book of knowledge instead theres no book and its not likely you will find any knowlege here.
But anyway post your best webdesign tips, coz everytime sum 1 visits a site they see something they dunno how to do and really want to know how.
This way we can help everyone! Get posting!
But anyway post your best webdesign tips, coz everytime sum 1 visits a site they see something they dunno how to do and really want to know how.
This way we can help everyone! Get posting!
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So far, I'm with the "keep it simple" vote. Mainly because I envy those lucky page designers that build intranets, and know that their users are all on the DOG3 browser with a standard config. I've learned the hard way that not all that many people see your site the way you think ... their screen resolution is different, they have fewer colours, their browser doesnt recognise CSS, they've disallowed cookies, they don't have Java, Flash, whatever, they use Netscape, IE, Opera, etc etc, they're on a Mac not a PC, and the list goes on.
As for frames, I used to go with them, but the bookmarking/search engine issue made me change over to using PHP "include"s instead, to get the standardised look for each page.
As for frames, I used to go with them, but the bookmarking/search engine issue made me change over to using PHP "include"s instead, to get the standardised look for each page.
Yeah, Frames are usually very useful, i've seen a few that really wouldn't work the same without frames, e.g: http://www.clanuk2.co.uk it would take a bit longer to load each page without them.
How could you make this page without Frames but without loosing loading times?
How could you make this page without Frames but without loosing loading times?
Whooo! wrote:
> Yeah, but they need to be really good. I'm yet to see a really good
> one. cough.
Cough.
> Yeah, but they need to be really good. I'm yet to see a really good
> one. cough.
funkygamer wrote:
> It's all too easy to design a website that is complicated and big to
> use, by just using frames to effectively "break" the way
> that users interact with a web site. Not using frames to build a
> large site takes thought and preperation, many developers (and
> designers) just use frames to avoid having to actually work out a
> decent user interface. And if your site is small, it shouldn't need
> frames.
>
Yeah, which is why I said frames should only be used if essential, rather than to cut corners. All I actually wanted to say was its unfair to call developers who use frames lazy because there are actually good reasons to use frames sometimes.
But whatever....
-G
> It's all too easy to design a website that is complicated and big to
> use, by just using frames to effectively "break" the way
> that users interact with a web site. Not using frames to build a
> large site takes thought and preperation, many developers (and
> designers) just use frames to avoid having to actually work out a
> decent user interface. And if your site is small, it shouldn't need
> frames.
>
Yeah, which is why I said frames should only be used if essential, rather than to cut corners. All I actually wanted to say was its unfair to call developers who use frames lazy because there are actually good reasons to use frames sometimes.
But whatever....
-G
Yeah, but they need to be really good. I'm yet to see a really good one. cough.
Really good backgrounds always help. Cough.
Garin wrote:
> I think its more appropriate to say, don't use frames to cut corners.
> Or only use frames if essential. Quite unfair to say they are a lazy
> developer's tool anyway.
I have to disagree.
It's all too easy to design a website that is complicated and big to use, by just using frames to effectively "break" the way that users interact with a web site. Not using frames to build a large site takes thought and preperation, many developers (and designers) just use frames to avoid having to actually work out a decent user interface. And if your site is small, it shouldn't need frames.
Frames stop users from book marking pages, and they stop search engines from effictely spidering your site, they make you work harder in the long run, and they just look so 90's now anyway.
Show me a world class web site that uses frames.
> I think its more appropriate to say, don't use frames to cut corners.
> Or only use frames if essential. Quite unfair to say they are a lazy
> developer's tool anyway.
I have to disagree.
It's all too easy to design a website that is complicated and big to use, by just using frames to effectively "break" the way that users interact with a web site. Not using frames to build a large site takes thought and preperation, many developers (and designers) just use frames to avoid having to actually work out a decent user interface. And if your site is small, it shouldn't need frames.
Frames stop users from book marking pages, and they stop search engines from effictely spidering your site, they make you work harder in the long run, and they just look so 90's now anyway.
Show me a world class web site that uses frames.
Is that coming from personnel experience? :)
I'd say a good colour scheme is essential, work out what your going to use at the start, make a set list for all the colours and try them out, if you get colours that don't match you site will look pants, also get colours that match the idea of your websites. If it's got lots of content try and keep the colours intresting, but not something the users going to think is offputting.
I'd say a good colour scheme is essential, work out what your going to use at the start, make a set list for all the colours and try them out, if you get colours that don't match you site will look pants, also get colours that match the idea of your websites. If it's got lots of content try and keep the colours intresting, but not something the users going to think is offputting.
Small and simple, that's the key. However, no matter how a website looks, if it's about your neighbour's uncle's breakfasr's milk or what size you shoes are, absolutely no one will visit.
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