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Sun 28/04/02 at 12:52
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I remember reading a while ago that Nintendo had said that they wanted to loose their “childish” imagine that they once had with N64 behind them, and start a fresh with the Gamecube. I thought to myself that this will be interesting. This is exactly what Nintendo could do with, games and software which will interest the older gamer. The N64 had a reputation for “childish” games on it, without offering too much for the older gamer. With this is mind, I would have expected Nintendo to design the Gamecube will the intensions of both the younger and older gamer in mind.

Well, I was a little surprised when I first saw the actual console. It was chunky, purple, and almost cuddly. I cringed at the sight of it, however it did have 4 controller ports on it. It was also very compact, so it wasn’t that bad. The design of the console isn’t the most important thing, but it is always nice to have it looking stylish and trendy!

When I first saw the controller for the first time, I literally giggled at its looks. Big, colourful, and the buttons were huge… something a 7 year old would love.
I cannot imagine my father holding this pad in a million years! It just has something about it which makes it look like a under 12 controller. Ah well, it’s only the controller, this wont affect the actual games. Looking at the games, all I notice is Mario, Luigi, some sort of dinosaur, and creatures you find in your garden… very childish. Don’t get me wrong, these games will still probably be great, but they aren’t going to interest the older gamer much, are they?

They do have games like Resident Evil, which is more suited to the older gamer, but it is also on other consoles, so not a reason to buy the Gamecube.

Maybe Nintendo just cannot shrug off their childish imagine that they have, which is a great shame. I am really concerned that the Gamecube will not sell as good as it is expected to…what I really want to know is will the Gamecube have the dreaded “childish” imagine with it?
Sun 28/04/02 at 12:52
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I remember reading a while ago that Nintendo had said that they wanted to loose their “childish” imagine that they once had with N64 behind them, and start a fresh with the Gamecube. I thought to myself that this will be interesting. This is exactly what Nintendo could do with, games and software which will interest the older gamer. The N64 had a reputation for “childish” games on it, without offering too much for the older gamer. With this is mind, I would have expected Nintendo to design the Gamecube will the intensions of both the younger and older gamer in mind.

Well, I was a little surprised when I first saw the actual console. It was chunky, purple, and almost cuddly. I cringed at the sight of it, however it did have 4 controller ports on it. It was also very compact, so it wasn’t that bad. The design of the console isn’t the most important thing, but it is always nice to have it looking stylish and trendy!

When I first saw the controller for the first time, I literally giggled at its looks. Big, colourful, and the buttons were huge… something a 7 year old would love.
I cannot imagine my father holding this pad in a million years! It just has something about it which makes it look like a under 12 controller. Ah well, it’s only the controller, this wont affect the actual games. Looking at the games, all I notice is Mario, Luigi, some sort of dinosaur, and creatures you find in your garden… very childish. Don’t get me wrong, these games will still probably be great, but they aren’t going to interest the older gamer much, are they?

They do have games like Resident Evil, which is more suited to the older gamer, but it is also on other consoles, so not a reason to buy the Gamecube.

Maybe Nintendo just cannot shrug off their childish imagine that they have, which is a great shame. I am really concerned that the Gamecube will not sell as good as it is expected to…what I really want to know is will the Gamecube have the dreaded “childish” imagine with it?
Sun 28/04/02 at 13:39
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It isn't that the console is childish, it is an extrmley sophisticated piece of kit but its their attitude which if they change i will leave gaming.

Sony are a company that strives on sophisitcated look and appeal with realistic graphics but with Nintendo it is who cares abou graphics let your mind go wild. SEGA are the same would we be seeing 4 monkeys in balls on a Playstation, no and Sony are missing out because of it. Nintendo's attitude towards the industry is an immature attitude not sophisitcated like Sony and Microsoft but fun and silly. Which is what gaming is all about... expect a post on this soon.

As for Resident Evil, on other consoles??? Really??? Since when was Resident Evil on other consoles? And Eternal Darkness and Too Human??? ar ethey on other consoles too, or Perfect Dark (touch wood) or MEtroid or Conker... Nintendo have loads of exclusive adult titles.
Sun 28/04/02 at 13:40
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Oh and are you aware of how well the cube has been recieved over here with over 50,000 pre-orders in the UK alone.
Sun 28/04/02 at 14:14
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You do NOT want to get on the wrong side of the Dringo man. Not when talking about Nintendo. He's "a vicious life-sucking-****h from which there is no escape!" :-D
Sun 28/04/02 at 14:14
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heh, Even Nintendo Official magazine have dropped the kiddy look and it looks like a proper magazine now :)

Even dropped the "greystation" and "dreampants" name.

Gamecube looks ace in black :P
Sun 28/04/02 at 14:16
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Yeah, Resident Evil is GC exclusive...

...however, it flopped in Japan, and RE will be on PS2, too :-(

Dringo, read my post will ya? It's about the Gamecube controller, I'd like to know what you think.
Sun 28/04/02 at 14:19
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Or†ega wrote:
> Gamecube looks ace in black :P

Hear, hear!

I think the 'Cube is THE most stylish console out!
And since when was Rogue Leader 'kiddy'?
Or Wave Race: Blue Storm, for that matter, hmm?
Sun 28/04/02 at 15:34
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Ah, but the Q looks SO much nicer..

However, you all name about 5 mature titles and think this shrugs off the childish image? Of course there are exceptions, but 5 is nothing in comparison to the literally hundreds on the PS2 already. Sure, most of them may not be of much quality, but average Gamer Joe doesn't care.

Besides, the kiddy image is good for Nintendo. Think about it: They're aiming at families and young gamers, because that's what their image dictates. If they try to bring out loads of "mature" titles, families may be put off it because of its average content, yet the 18-30s stil don't want it because of its traditional kiddy images, that fact that it looks like it rolled off the back of a Fisher Price wagon, and Sony/Microsoft have that marked completely wrapped up. There's no room for the GC in that market anyway. Nintendo are left in a half-way house position and sales fall through the brightly coloured floor.
Sun 28/04/02 at 15:39
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Turbonutter wrote:
Nintendo are left in
> a half-way house position and sales fall through the brightly coloured
> floor.

As pointed out by Dringo below, Pre-orders have already hit 50,000 in the UK. Gamecube is off to a nice start, and should be a sell out at launch. And should carry on being a success at that oh so lovely £129.99 price tag.
Sun 28/04/02 at 15:49
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I don't want Nintendo to throw away this so-called 'kiddy image' they apparently have, that'd be a bad thing for me, and many other Nintendo fans.

Nintendo are a company good at creating certain types of games. The likes of Mario and Zelda for example somehow fall under the 'kiddy' category, and without those games, Ninty just wouldn't be Ninty!
It may seem like a better idea to some people, but another console full of the likes of Resident Evil and co. just wouldn't be right.
The X-box and PS2 are similar enough with their games already, what we don't need is another machine just to give gamers a third option for a console to choose for these types of games.

I say that Nintendo should keep on producing the Marios, the Zeldas, and maybe more of the likes of Pikmin!
They offer all gamers something different, a lot more variety in what they can choose to play.

Surely anyone would get sick after a load of FPS's and 18-rated games. So lets thank Nintendo for bringing us some great Adventure and Platform games that can be enjoyed by anyone. And let's hope they never stop dong such a good job!!

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