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Tue 16/04/02 at 17:37
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Life in this galaxy to be precise.
Do you believe in intelligent life?

There are of course prequisites:
The planet must support life
It must be stable
It has to have time for intelligent life to evolve

For me the prospect is dim. There are millions of planets in the galaxy at large but what is the possibility that they have intelligent creatures
living on them?

Remember that intelligent life could well wipe itself out in a war (think how close we came in the cuban missile crisis) and that even if there was intelligence it may still be in the stone age.

I believe that the galaxy is full of life ranging from bacteria to animals but I think the chances of itelligent life evolving (you need precise conditions) in slim. Remember that if aliens visited us 69 million years ago they would find dinosaurs but not sentient beings.

And even if there was what is the chance that they would come to this corner of the galaxy? They obviously haven't yet or we would know about it, unless you believe that they are keeping out of human affairs to avoid war or that they just haven't travelled to this part of the galaxy yet.

Any comments on this?
Wed 17/04/02 at 16:20
"Mimmargh!"
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I classify intelligent life as one that can enter every enviroment on a planet (sea, air, land, mud, mountains etc.) rather than specialising in one. Think about it, we are the only animals that can enter space (of our own free will).

In fact, an intelligent animal is one that can use complex abstract thought, devise hypothesis and use them to do things other animals can't. This includes art, mathemeatics, science.

Intellient life also has a choice of good or evil, complex emotions and the ability as a result to form religions. It goes beyond survival and does stuff that isn't required to survive just to satisfy it's own curiosity.

And chances are aliens (if they exist) are just as violent as Humans are, or at least were in their past before they became space travellers.
Wed 17/04/02 at 08:45
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Posts: 760
I agree with Sodding Idiot.
Tue 16/04/02 at 23:00
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Good post.

Thing is, what do you mean by "intelligent life"? It could be argued that we are not intelligent life. We kill each other for fun, we don't look after our needy - we still have millions of people dying each year through starvation in our poorest countries while the rich countries sit there and go: "I'm ok, cheers."

We can't even travel to the nearest star in the space of one lifetime. We have to have bulky, expensive crap equipment to get to the moon, if we even did (but that's another argument all together...).

So, in my view, we're not classed as "intelligent life".

I belive that there is intelligent life out there. Life that can travel around space, a planet where they don't kill their people for the fun of it, or flying plans into buildings. A planet where everyone lives in peace.

Maybe they have come ot us, and we've just put their messanger in a loony bin.

Maybe they came to us and realised that we're crap, and it's not worth them wasting their time with us.

Who knows?

Suffice to say, with millions and millions of planets out there, no one can say that ours is the only one with any life on it...
Tue 16/04/02 at 17:37
"Mimmargh!"
Posts: 2,929
Life in this galaxy to be precise.
Do you believe in intelligent life?

There are of course prequisites:
The planet must support life
It must be stable
It has to have time for intelligent life to evolve

For me the prospect is dim. There are millions of planets in the galaxy at large but what is the possibility that they have intelligent creatures
living on them?

Remember that intelligent life could well wipe itself out in a war (think how close we came in the cuban missile crisis) and that even if there was intelligence it may still be in the stone age.

I believe that the galaxy is full of life ranging from bacteria to animals but I think the chances of itelligent life evolving (you need precise conditions) in slim. Remember that if aliens visited us 69 million years ago they would find dinosaurs but not sentient beings.

And even if there was what is the chance that they would come to this corner of the galaxy? They obviously haven't yet or we would know about it, unless you believe that they are keeping out of human affairs to avoid war or that they just haven't travelled to this part of the galaxy yet.

Any comments on this?

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