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Thu 17/10/02 at 13:20
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In the eyes of many gamers around the world today, Nintendo are 'un-cool' and 'childish' when compared to the more 'mature' companies like Microsoft and SONY.
We all know that, and it is probably something that'll never change.
I reckon everyone will still be saying that even in a year's time, after Zelda, after Metroid, and maybe even after Mario Kart.
Nintendo have been around for well-over 100 years, but this means nothing to those people who probably loved that springy sounds you heard when you pulled the trigger and quacked a duck in Duck Hunt back in the NES days, only a decad-or-so ago.

But you have to wonder what life for us, and everyone else who shares a passion for computer and video games, would be like if Nintendo were today consider as-'cool'-as SONY, or maybe even more-so.
Of course, the GameCube would be topping the charts and would be well on its way towards breaking all previous records set in such a short-space of time, but would Nntendo really be the same company that we Nintys know and love as they are today?

I think not. I believe they would be completely different. And it's all because of the consumer's demands and needs for Nintendo Gaming.

Mario and The Legend of Zelda are the 2 Nintendo titles that first come to your head when you think of the Japanese giants and Shigeru Miyamoto.
These games alone are nothing quite-like anything else we, as gamers, have ever experienced on another format or even an Arcade system, to-date.
I believe this is mainly down to the fact that Nintendo have always spent a great deal of time and care into creating new games for their own consoles as we VERY rarely see a game from Nintendo themselves that is dissapointing and just another 'average' game on the market. In-fact, I can't even think of ONE game, dating all the way back to the days of the NES! Anyway....
If Nintendo hadn't given these games the time they've deserved then not only would they possibly come-out even shorter (imagine an even-shorter Pikmin of Luigi's Mansion... :S ), but games like Mario SunShine would be lacking those extra 'little details' that matter, like how you can slide through the oil for ages, and just like how you can bounce up-and-down along those tightropes.

Look at some of the games SONY and Microsoft have produced themselves.
Can you even THINK of any besides Flight Simulator on the PC?? I can't!
These 'cooler' companys buy people to do all the hard-work for them.
SONY this year brought the rights to the Grand Theft Auto series, meaning that from No.3 onwards, not GTA could appear on any other console except the PlayStation 2 - up-untill 2004 though, when this deal ends. And Rockstar are the guys behind this, and several other top PS2 titles - but not SONY themselves.
And let's not forget the Final Fantasy series, perhaps the most popular RPG-Adventure series available in today's market - in-competition with The Legend of Zelda. If Nintendo and Square hadn't 'broken-up' for one reason or another then SONY PlayStation and PS2 would today probably be FF-less as the N64, GameCube and GameBoy Advance would have them all. But because of this, RPG fans have looked towards SONY for Final Fantasy alone.
By looking at the names there and knowing there are so-many more you can't help but admit that is an impressive list of titles there. Is this what Nintendo would be like if they were 'cool' and 'popular'? Would we barely-ever see a Mario or Zelda game from the console developers themselves - let-alone a 'good' game??

As we all know, Microsoft recently aquirred the exclusivew services of Rareware - the company formerly owned by Nintendo who saved the N64 with the likes of Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie and Conker's Bad Fur Day. Now, when you think what these games - along with the likes of Halo - and more could do for the X-Box, you can't help but to be amazed. Look more closely and you'll see that all these games and many more have either been developed by 3rd Party names like SEGA, or someone Bill Gates has just spent his weekly-earnings on like Rare, and like Bungie.

So it looks even more likely that if Nintendo were as 'cool' as these 2 that:
1. They wouldn't be developing their own games for the console, meaning; no Mario, no Zelda, and no more innovation's like Pikmin.
And 2. They'd be getting all the others companies to do the work for them. And because a majority of these games would be multi-format, gamers could still decided to choose the latest PlayStation over Nintendo's newest effort.

A world without Mario, a world without Zelda...
Is this something we would really want??
No way!

We may not like the critisism Nintendo recieves for flooding a console with their own games suitable for a wider audience, but in the long-run, it all works out for the best for us. We should NEVER wish for Nintendo to become as popular as SONY and Microsoft, we would only be hugely dissapointed with the lack of Nintendo we'd be getting in the Grand Theft Auto's and Halo's we'd be getting every 6 months.
No-one ever wants something good to change.

"Nintendo suck!" :D
Thu 17/10/02 at 18:24
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"Festivus!"
Posts: 6,228
Nintendo ha no repuatation before the NES, which was the founder for the Mario and Zelda games. People loved these, and therefore, they would have probably kept gooing.

We would have probably got games like Pikmin too, as Miyamoto would have to work SOMEWHERE and Miyamotos class on the NES would have got him a job somewhere.
Thu 17/10/02 at 18:18
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Posts: 11,038
What!? Nintendo aren't cool!? I've fallen in with a baaaaaaad crowd.
Jes kiddin, The reason pepl think that ninty isn't kool is coz many owners of the PS2 are kiddies which owned a PS1 and nuthin else, because PS1 "won" the console war (because n64's were a fortune), they've grown to believe that Sony is superior. Now I may only be 14 but having had the fortune of owning- A C64, Ps1, PS2, GC, SNES, NES, GBC, GBA, Mega Drive and a Commodore Amiga, I have the ability to see the best games console - and its definately the ......SNES!
But that doesn't mean Nintendo aren't cool, any gamer who's been further back than the PS1, knows that ninty make the best games and ninty are the coolest.
Thu 17/10/02 at 13:31
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"NJAN"
Posts: 143
i think that if nintendo were to become 'cool' and the such like sony or m$, that wouldnt necessarily mean that we'd never see another brilliant mario or zelda game. I agree that nintendo will never be as 'cool' as sony, but if they were to become 'that cool' they could still make class a titles, they just wouldnt be so "childish". gore and flash graphics can help a game but can rarely ruin it. if nintendo became 'cool' they could very easily make a grown up zelda, which would be 'well cool'!

i for one dont even want nintendo to become as 'cool' as sony as nintendo games are special - be it pikmin or "cellda" or some more "mature" game.

amos.
Thu 17/10/02 at 13:23
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Thu 17/10/02 at 13:20
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Posts: 8,351
In the eyes of many gamers around the world today, Nintendo are 'un-cool' and 'childish' when compared to the more 'mature' companies like Microsoft and SONY.
We all know that, and it is probably something that'll never change.
I reckon everyone will still be saying that even in a year's time, after Zelda, after Metroid, and maybe even after Mario Kart.
Nintendo have been around for well-over 100 years, but this means nothing to those people who probably loved that springy sounds you heard when you pulled the trigger and quacked a duck in Duck Hunt back in the NES days, only a decad-or-so ago.

But you have to wonder what life for us, and everyone else who shares a passion for computer and video games, would be like if Nintendo were today consider as-'cool'-as SONY, or maybe even more-so.
Of course, the GameCube would be topping the charts and would be well on its way towards breaking all previous records set in such a short-space of time, but would Nntendo really be the same company that we Nintys know and love as they are today?

I think not. I believe they would be completely different. And it's all because of the consumer's demands and needs for Nintendo Gaming.

Mario and The Legend of Zelda are the 2 Nintendo titles that first come to your head when you think of the Japanese giants and Shigeru Miyamoto.
These games alone are nothing quite-like anything else we, as gamers, have ever experienced on another format or even an Arcade system, to-date.
I believe this is mainly down to the fact that Nintendo have always spent a great deal of time and care into creating new games for their own consoles as we VERY rarely see a game from Nintendo themselves that is dissapointing and just another 'average' game on the market. In-fact, I can't even think of ONE game, dating all the way back to the days of the NES! Anyway....
If Nintendo hadn't given these games the time they've deserved then not only would they possibly come-out even shorter (imagine an even-shorter Pikmin of Luigi's Mansion... :S ), but games like Mario SunShine would be lacking those extra 'little details' that matter, like how you can slide through the oil for ages, and just like how you can bounce up-and-down along those tightropes.

Look at some of the games SONY and Microsoft have produced themselves.
Can you even THINK of any besides Flight Simulator on the PC?? I can't!
These 'cooler' companys buy people to do all the hard-work for them.
SONY this year brought the rights to the Grand Theft Auto series, meaning that from No.3 onwards, not GTA could appear on any other console except the PlayStation 2 - up-untill 2004 though, when this deal ends. And Rockstar are the guys behind this, and several other top PS2 titles - but not SONY themselves.
And let's not forget the Final Fantasy series, perhaps the most popular RPG-Adventure series available in today's market - in-competition with The Legend of Zelda. If Nintendo and Square hadn't 'broken-up' for one reason or another then SONY PlayStation and PS2 would today probably be FF-less as the N64, GameCube and GameBoy Advance would have them all. But because of this, RPG fans have looked towards SONY for Final Fantasy alone.
By looking at the names there and knowing there are so-many more you can't help but admit that is an impressive list of titles there. Is this what Nintendo would be like if they were 'cool' and 'popular'? Would we barely-ever see a Mario or Zelda game from the console developers themselves - let-alone a 'good' game??

As we all know, Microsoft recently aquirred the exclusivew services of Rareware - the company formerly owned by Nintendo who saved the N64 with the likes of Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie and Conker's Bad Fur Day. Now, when you think what these games - along with the likes of Halo - and more could do for the X-Box, you can't help but to be amazed. Look more closely and you'll see that all these games and many more have either been developed by 3rd Party names like SEGA, or someone Bill Gates has just spent his weekly-earnings on like Rare, and like Bungie.

So it looks even more likely that if Nintendo were as 'cool' as these 2 that:
1. They wouldn't be developing their own games for the console, meaning; no Mario, no Zelda, and no more innovation's like Pikmin.
And 2. They'd be getting all the others companies to do the work for them. And because a majority of these games would be multi-format, gamers could still decided to choose the latest PlayStation over Nintendo's newest effort.

A world without Mario, a world without Zelda...
Is this something we would really want??
No way!

We may not like the critisism Nintendo recieves for flooding a console with their own games suitable for a wider audience, but in the long-run, it all works out for the best for us. We should NEVER wish for Nintendo to become as popular as SONY and Microsoft, we would only be hugely dissapointed with the lack of Nintendo we'd be getting in the Grand Theft Auto's and Halo's we'd be getting every 6 months.
No-one ever wants something good to change.

"Nintendo suck!" :D

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