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My console gaming started in the early 90's. The beginning of gaming was focused around the Master System, SNES and Mega Drive. Up until about 4 years ago, I had no idea about the history of gaming, no idea about its origins, it's growth and just what had led to the great 'Mario versus Sega' battle of the golden age of gaming. I was lucky, because I just got into gaming as it was at its 2D pinnacle. But the question I ask myself - what went before.
All you 'oldies' on the forums. You know who you are - Meka, pb, Ice Blaster, Tony, Snuggly. Do you remember all the early arcade games. Defender, Pac-Man, pong. Well, do you want to know what? I've never played any of these games on an arcade machine, or their original consoles. I've never played an Atari or other consoles of the 80's. I haven't played games which rival the addictiveness of games nowadays, and were hits in their own right.
Never, until now. Yesterday, my Xbox was chipped. I'm not a pirate, I did it for two things. Importing, and emulating. I'm told what I'm doing is illegal, and I suppose to an extent it is. I'm not paying anything for any of the games I've downloaded, I'm essentially 'stealing' the intellectual property of many developers of yesteryear.
If I was offered an Atari 2600 with the classics I've mentioned, for a reasonable price, I would probably buy it. I'm not saying that I'd spend thirty quid on an old piece of plastic, I'm thinking the price of an old console. Then at least the developers can have the satisfaction of knowing that, despite them getting nowt in extra royalties, I'm not playing an illegal version of their game.
Well, you know what I'll say to that! Games which are twenty years old cannot be bought anymore - go into game and you'll be laughed at. But anyway, as I said, I got my Xbox chipped. Since then, I've played SNES games I do own somewhere, Mega Drive games which I binned when they broke, and freeware which is just plain nifty. Tell me this - what am I doing that is so damaging, so industry-breaking that I should be stopped? All I'm doing is putting a bit of life into something which to me was otherwise dead.
No matter now much Microsoft say to the contrary, the Xbox IS a PC in a box. I've seen the insides, I've seen the almost identical-to-a-PC hard drive and the nVidia graphics chip. To tell me that an Xbox has more than a PC, or less than a PC is a load of crap. Because they're the same.
I think the future for the Xbox does lie in it becoming a standardised PC. The creators of MameX were turned down when they offered their product to Microsoft, which opened up a massive online piracy network. Except you can't say something is pirated if you own it anyway.
The future of the Xbox did lie in emulation, if developers of old had given the ok to use their games, perhaps at a quid a go or something, then the Xbox could have opened up. Xbox live could have had these downloading, since a 1MB file on a broadband network is a drop in the ocean.
But no. Emulation is obviously not Bill Gates' aspiration for the Xbox. If anybody here can tell me that old games are boring, I'd tell them they're lying. It's fun playing Super Mario RPG, Gundam Wing and DragonBall Z on my Xbox. It's especially great because, despite all the claims of Xbox corrupting files and incompatibility, the Xbox is brilliant for emulation. It's boring playing a game meant for a console on the PC, but on the Xbox possibilities open up.
Whatever happens to the Xbox in future, one thing remains clear. To the underground world of coding, emulation is a brilliant aspect of the Xbox. And it's also a brilliant aspect which has been turned down by Microsoft, the one thing which could have made the Xbox really popular with more mature gamers, people who remember Outrun and Marble Madness. Oh well, I know I'm going on a bit, but MameX, Xsnes and Ngen are brilliant, life giving tools. I don't endorse piracy in the least - I endorse the gaming industry.
All you 'oldies' on the forums. You know who you are - Meka, pb, Ice Blaster, Tony, Snuggly. Do you remember all the early arcade games. Defender, Pac-Man, pong. Well, do you want to know what? I've never played any of these games on an arcade machine, or their original consoles. I've never played an Atari or other consoles of the 80's. I haven't played games which rival the addictiveness of games nowadays, and were hits in their own right.
Never, until now. Yesterday, my Xbox was chipped. I'm not a pirate, I did it for two things. Importing, and emulating. I'm told what I'm doing is illegal, and I suppose to an extent it is. I'm not paying anything for any of the games I've downloaded, I'm essentially 'stealing' the intellectual property of many developers of yesteryear.
If I was offered an Atari 2600 with the classics I've mentioned, for a reasonable price, I would probably buy it. I'm not saying that I'd spend thirty quid on an old piece of plastic, I'm thinking the price of an old console. Then at least the developers can have the satisfaction of knowing that, despite them getting nowt in extra royalties, I'm not playing an illegal version of their game.
Well, you know what I'll say to that! Games which are twenty years old cannot be bought anymore - go into game and you'll be laughed at. But anyway, as I said, I got my Xbox chipped. Since then, I've played SNES games I do own somewhere, Mega Drive games which I binned when they broke, and freeware which is just plain nifty. Tell me this - what am I doing that is so damaging, so industry-breaking that I should be stopped? All I'm doing is putting a bit of life into something which to me was otherwise dead.
No matter now much Microsoft say to the contrary, the Xbox IS a PC in a box. I've seen the insides, I've seen the almost identical-to-a-PC hard drive and the nVidia graphics chip. To tell me that an Xbox has more than a PC, or less than a PC is a load of crap. Because they're the same.
I think the future for the Xbox does lie in it becoming a standardised PC. The creators of MameX were turned down when they offered their product to Microsoft, which opened up a massive online piracy network. Except you can't say something is pirated if you own it anyway.
The future of the Xbox did lie in emulation, if developers of old had given the ok to use their games, perhaps at a quid a go or something, then the Xbox could have opened up. Xbox live could have had these downloading, since a 1MB file on a broadband network is a drop in the ocean.
But no. Emulation is obviously not Bill Gates' aspiration for the Xbox. If anybody here can tell me that old games are boring, I'd tell them they're lying. It's fun playing Super Mario RPG, Gundam Wing and DragonBall Z on my Xbox. It's especially great because, despite all the claims of Xbox corrupting files and incompatibility, the Xbox is brilliant for emulation. It's boring playing a game meant for a console on the PC, but on the Xbox possibilities open up.
Whatever happens to the Xbox in future, one thing remains clear. To the underground world of coding, emulation is a brilliant aspect of the Xbox. And it's also a brilliant aspect which has been turned down by Microsoft, the one thing which could have made the Xbox really popular with more mature gamers, people who remember Outrun and Marble Madness. Oh well, I know I'm going on a bit, but MameX, Xsnes and Ngen are brilliant, life giving tools. I don't endorse piracy in the least - I endorse the gaming industry.
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½pint wrote:
> Do I take it that Cyclone has a chipped Xbox too...? :D
Nah! He'll be talking PC.
It's not the same without a decent joypad though.
> Do I take it that Cyclone has a chipped Xbox too...? :D
Nah! He'll be talking PC.
It's not the same without a decent joypad though.
Snes games on your chipped XBox?
Tell me how!
I take it you got it chipped first.
But how did you get all the emulators?
Did you download them from the web and burn them onto a cd/dvd or did the bloke at the games shop who chipped your box do it?
It would be possible to get an N64 emulator and play games such as Perfect Dark on your Xbox - the N64 version in all it's glory, only WITHOUT the slowdown! :-)
Tell me how!
I take it you got it chipped first.
But how did you get all the emulators?
Did you download them from the web and burn them onto a cd/dvd or did the bloke at the games shop who chipped your box do it?
It would be possible to get an N64 emulator and play games such as Perfect Dark on your Xbox - the N64 version in all it's glory, only WITHOUT the slowdown! :-)
My N64 emulator for my PC doesn't work anymore.
No more Mario Tennis.
:(
WWWHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
No more Mario Tennis.
:(
WWWHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
Do I take it that Cyclone has a chipped Xbox too...? :D
My lovely SNES emulator is fine for me.
;)
;)
I think Microsoft are idiots for not taking up the offer of buying an idea that would not only be beneficial to them and their product, but be harmful to their image if passed up on. Because MS hate pirates, they hate emulation...but they could have prevented or harnessed this underground XBOX movement if they weren't so darn proud.
My console gaming started in the early 90's. The beginning of gaming was focused around the Master System, SNES and Mega Drive. Up until about 4 years ago, I had no idea about the history of gaming, no idea about its origins, it's growth and just what had led to the great 'Mario versus Sega' battle of the golden age of gaming. I was lucky, because I just got into gaming as it was at its 2D pinnacle. But the question I ask myself - what went before.
All you 'oldies' on the forums. You know who you are - Meka, pb, Ice Blaster, Tony, Snuggly. Do you remember all the early arcade games. Defender, Pac-Man, pong. Well, do you want to know what? I've never played any of these games on an arcade machine, or their original consoles. I've never played an Atari or other consoles of the 80's. I haven't played games which rival the addictiveness of games nowadays, and were hits in their own right.
Never, until now. Yesterday, my Xbox was chipped. I'm not a pirate, I did it for two things. Importing, and emulating. I'm told what I'm doing is illegal, and I suppose to an extent it is. I'm not paying anything for any of the games I've downloaded, I'm essentially 'stealing' the intellectual property of many developers of yesteryear.
If I was offered an Atari 2600 with the classics I've mentioned, for a reasonable price, I would probably buy it. I'm not saying that I'd spend thirty quid on an old piece of plastic, I'm thinking the price of an old console. Then at least the developers can have the satisfaction of knowing that, despite them getting nowt in extra royalties, I'm not playing an illegal version of their game.
Well, you know what I'll say to that! Games which are twenty years old cannot be bought anymore - go into game and you'll be laughed at. But anyway, as I said, I got my Xbox chipped. Since then, I've played SNES games I do own somewhere, Mega Drive games which I binned when they broke, and freeware which is just plain nifty. Tell me this - what am I doing that is so damaging, so industry-breaking that I should be stopped? All I'm doing is putting a bit of life into something which to me was otherwise dead.
No matter now much Microsoft say to the contrary, the Xbox IS a PC in a box. I've seen the insides, I've seen the almost identical-to-a-PC hard drive and the nVidia graphics chip. To tell me that an Xbox has more than a PC, or less than a PC is a load of crap. Because they're the same.
I think the future for the Xbox does lie in it becoming a standardised PC. The creators of MameX were turned down when they offered their product to Microsoft, which opened up a massive online piracy network. Except you can't say something is pirated if you own it anyway.
The future of the Xbox did lie in emulation, if developers of old had given the ok to use their games, perhaps at a quid a go or something, then the Xbox could have opened up. Xbox live could have had these downloading, since a 1MB file on a broadband network is a drop in the ocean.
But no. Emulation is obviously not Bill Gates' aspiration for the Xbox. If anybody here can tell me that old games are boring, I'd tell them they're lying. It's fun playing Super Mario RPG, Gundam Wing and DragonBall Z on my Xbox. It's especially great because, despite all the claims of Xbox corrupting files and incompatibility, the Xbox is brilliant for emulation. It's boring playing a game meant for a console on the PC, but on the Xbox possibilities open up.
Whatever happens to the Xbox in future, one thing remains clear. To the underground world of coding, emulation is a brilliant aspect of the Xbox. And it's also a brilliant aspect which has been turned down by Microsoft, the one thing which could have made the Xbox really popular with more mature gamers, people who remember Outrun and Marble Madness. Oh well, I know I'm going on a bit, but MameX, Xsnes and Ngen are brilliant, life giving tools. I don't endorse piracy in the least - I endorse the gaming industry.
All you 'oldies' on the forums. You know who you are - Meka, pb, Ice Blaster, Tony, Snuggly. Do you remember all the early arcade games. Defender, Pac-Man, pong. Well, do you want to know what? I've never played any of these games on an arcade machine, or their original consoles. I've never played an Atari or other consoles of the 80's. I haven't played games which rival the addictiveness of games nowadays, and were hits in their own right.
Never, until now. Yesterday, my Xbox was chipped. I'm not a pirate, I did it for two things. Importing, and emulating. I'm told what I'm doing is illegal, and I suppose to an extent it is. I'm not paying anything for any of the games I've downloaded, I'm essentially 'stealing' the intellectual property of many developers of yesteryear.
If I was offered an Atari 2600 with the classics I've mentioned, for a reasonable price, I would probably buy it. I'm not saying that I'd spend thirty quid on an old piece of plastic, I'm thinking the price of an old console. Then at least the developers can have the satisfaction of knowing that, despite them getting nowt in extra royalties, I'm not playing an illegal version of their game.
Well, you know what I'll say to that! Games which are twenty years old cannot be bought anymore - go into game and you'll be laughed at. But anyway, as I said, I got my Xbox chipped. Since then, I've played SNES games I do own somewhere, Mega Drive games which I binned when they broke, and freeware which is just plain nifty. Tell me this - what am I doing that is so damaging, so industry-breaking that I should be stopped? All I'm doing is putting a bit of life into something which to me was otherwise dead.
No matter now much Microsoft say to the contrary, the Xbox IS a PC in a box. I've seen the insides, I've seen the almost identical-to-a-PC hard drive and the nVidia graphics chip. To tell me that an Xbox has more than a PC, or less than a PC is a load of crap. Because they're the same.
I think the future for the Xbox does lie in it becoming a standardised PC. The creators of MameX were turned down when they offered their product to Microsoft, which opened up a massive online piracy network. Except you can't say something is pirated if you own it anyway.
The future of the Xbox did lie in emulation, if developers of old had given the ok to use their games, perhaps at a quid a go or something, then the Xbox could have opened up. Xbox live could have had these downloading, since a 1MB file on a broadband network is a drop in the ocean.
But no. Emulation is obviously not Bill Gates' aspiration for the Xbox. If anybody here can tell me that old games are boring, I'd tell them they're lying. It's fun playing Super Mario RPG, Gundam Wing and DragonBall Z on my Xbox. It's especially great because, despite all the claims of Xbox corrupting files and incompatibility, the Xbox is brilliant for emulation. It's boring playing a game meant for a console on the PC, but on the Xbox possibilities open up.
Whatever happens to the Xbox in future, one thing remains clear. To the underground world of coding, emulation is a brilliant aspect of the Xbox. And it's also a brilliant aspect which has been turned down by Microsoft, the one thing which could have made the Xbox really popular with more mature gamers, people who remember Outrun and Marble Madness. Oh well, I know I'm going on a bit, but MameX, Xsnes and Ngen are brilliant, life giving tools. I don't endorse piracy in the least - I endorse the gaming industry.
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