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Sat 09/11/02 at 23:41
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Oooooooh back in the good old days when games weren’t about fancy framerates and how many polygons you could squeeze on the thingy me bob to get the watch ma jig to do the………okay I’ll shut up. Retro gaming what’s all that about? We all like to look back and reminisce about the good old times, the days of sprites and games that came on Tape Cassettes. Anyway me being the money hungry person that I am have always sold my old consoles when I’d done with them whether it was too finance a new console or a 6 pack and a curry. I was tired of seeing people going on about how “they don’t make games like they used to” so when my mate comes along and offers me a Megadrive and 20 games for £10 I jumped at the chance for a retro gaming fix. Now was the time to find out for myself if games really where better back then or whether it’s just my memory failing me.

Excited I yanked the Megadrive out of the box and plugged in the leads to my TV, took me a while to get over quite how ugly the control pad is, compared to the Cube controller I may as well of been holding a brick. Anyway enough of the cosmetics on with the game, sifting through the mountain of games I came across an old favourite, Road Rash 2. I inserted the cartridge and flipped on the power switch, the music started and I was in….music? well okay the strange attempt at rhythmic beeping started, I really haven’t got a clue how we ever put up with this noise. Anyway into the game, the game started and off I went….now I’m wondering if my eyes have gone funny over the years cause I really can’t remember the graphics ever looking this bad, I wasn’t expecting much cause it’s an old game but really, it’s evident how much technology has moved on. Anyway as the old and boring saying goes “gameplay over graphics” I started the race whooooosh we’re off…well not really a whoosh more like a slow trundle, suddenly a car appears from nowhere and I fall off my bike…crap…10 seconds later I’m back on my bike and we’re off again, getting faster decide take a swing at one of my fellow bikers only to get lamped round the head with a metal chain…..crap…..another pause and I’m back on my bike. This sort of carried on for about 10 minutes at that point I turned off the computer and looked for another game to play, not a bad game but certainly not how I remember it. I can’t imagine how I used to play it for long lengths of time and the fact that I payed over £40 for it makes it even more painful.

Sifting through the cartridges again I came across Sonic 2, the daddy of all Megadrive games. I can remember back in the day when it came out, the whole Sonic VS Mario thing, hell the launch was so big the headteacher of my school mentioned it in assembly to the delight of all the students, when I look back to that I realise it was just a sad old mans attempt to get the students on his side but anyway, nevermind. Flipped the power switch again and up came the Sega logo, more cruddy graphics as expected, not as cruddy as Road Rash though, the game starts I run through a few levels collecting coins and doing Sonic stuff really. 10 minutes later I turn the console off and search for a new game, starting to see a pattern here?

Next game I played was Streets of Rage 2, now this is was one of my all time favourite games. Looking at it now I kinda wonder why, all you do is walk along bash the punch and kick buttons every now and then and hope for the best. Don’t get me wrong it’s still fun but the game play’s just so damn shallow. There’s no storyline, why on earth the police decide to send a group of punk kids on roller blades in to beat some crooks up is anybody’s guess, don’t these people have guns? So yet again 10 minutes later I turned the console off, punching the same enemies in the face gets a tiny bit monotonous after a while.

This process carried on for most of the afternoon, I went through Flashback, Another World, Sonic 3, Toe Jam and Earl, T2 Arcade game and a few other that sucked the balls so much that I can’t even be bothered to type their names out. What’s the point in this topic I hear you ask? Well it’s not for me to sl*g off retro games I’ll tell you that (though I guess I have already). The point is that I’m fed up of seeing people on the Internet going on about “ooooh gaming’s not how it used to be”…no it’s not, thank god. The next time you see someone say “oooh they don’t make them like they used to” turn round and say “shut it you retro tart”. Old games are all good but we as gamers have got it so good nowadays, the amount of depth and shear diversity in genres cannot be paralleled by the SNES days of gaming where it was all platform clone A, platform clone B. Be thankful that technology has moved on so rapidly in such a brief space of time.

Just realised this topic isn’t really going anywhere and it's getting far too long; it’s more of me ranting cause I bought a Megadrive and wasted my money, I would have had more fun paying someone £10 to punch me in the face. Anyone want a Megadrive? You pay the postage and we can sort something out. I probably shouldn’t post this cause it’s a load of rubbish but I’m not typing this much and not pressing post so ummm here goes 1…..2……3…….4…..

If anyone actually manages to read the whole thing then I feel for ya buddy, you must be even more bored than me.
Mon 11/11/02 at 15:39
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Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Was there really any need to quote the whole post to put a 2 line
> reply on the end?

He does it to raise his word count. Gimp (Knick Knack not You)
Sun 10/11/02 at 20:53
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Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. It lets you play just about every arcade machine ever made. It rules. Space Invaders, Pacman, Streetfighter 2 (all 80 versions), Space Harrier, Robocop, King of Fighters, 1942, Outrun and approximately 3500 others. Oh my god, it's good.

Check out www.classicgaming.com/mame32/index.htm, www.mame.net and www.mame.dk and prepare to weep with joy.
Sun 10/11/02 at 20:22
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I haven't got a clue what MAME is but i'll agree with you...
Sun 10/11/02 at 20:17
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I spend more time playing MAME than any other game on PC. So there, ner.
Sun 10/11/02 at 17:49
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"no longer El Blokey"
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Silly Beards. You obviously didn't read the invisible "divided by 2" after 32.
Sun 10/11/02 at 17:46
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Was there really any need to quote the whole post to put a 2 line reply on the end?

Idiot...

Quite worrying that my attention span seems to have got shorter the older I get, used to be able to sit and play Road Rash all day and not get bored with repeating the same levels over and over again, now days the GAME OVER screen appears and I turn the console off.

You may have a point about the SNES, for some reason some of the games seem to have aged much better than Mega Drive games, I still enjoy playing the odd game of Mario 3 and Zelda Links Awakening but yet again they don't hold my intrest for very long at all downloaded off the net to back my other copies up of course.

One thing I'm gonna make sure I never do is play Duck Hunt on the old NES, that game was so good, I think I may think otherwise if I played it nowadays.
Sun 10/11/02 at 16:30
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"Damn dirty apes!"
Posts: 552
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Oooooooh back in the good old days when games weren’t about fancy
> framerates and how many polygons you could squeeze on the thingy me
> bob to get the watch ma jig to do the………okay I’ll shut up. Retro
> gaming what’s all that about? We all like to look back and reminisce
> about the good old times, the days of sprites and games that came on
> Tape Cassettes. Anyway me being the money hungry person that I am have
> always sold my old consoles when I’d done with them whether it was too
> finance a new console or a 6 pack and a curry. I was tired of seeing
> people going on about how “they don’t make games like they used to” so
> when my mate comes along and offers me a Megadrive and 20 games for
> £10 I jumped at the chance for a retro gaming fix. Now was the
> time to find out for myself if games really where better back then or
> whether it’s just my memory failing me.
>
> Excited I yanked the Megadrive out of the box and plugged in the leads
> to my TV, took me a while to get over quite how ugly the control pad
> is, compared to the Cube controller I may as well of been holding a
> brick. Anyway enough of the cosmetics on with the game, sifting
> through the mountain of games I came across an old favourite, Road
> Rash 2. I inserted the cartridge and flipped on the power switch, the
> music started and I was in….music? well okay the strange attempt at
> rhythmic beeping started, I really haven’t got a clue how we ever put
> up with this noise. Anyway into the game, the game started and off I
> went….now I’m wondering if my eyes have gone funny over the years
> cause I really can’t remember the graphics ever looking this bad, I
> wasn’t expecting much cause it’s an old game but really, it’s evident
> how much technology has moved on. Anyway as the old and boring saying
> goes “gameplay over graphics” I started the race whooooosh we’re
> off…well not really a whoosh more like a slow trundle, suddenly a car
> appears from nowhere and I fall off my bike…crap…10 seconds later I’m
> back on my bike and we’re off again, getting faster decide take a
> swing at one of my fellow bikers only to get lamped round the head
> with a metal chain…..crap…..another pause and I’m back on my bike.
> This sort of carried on for about 10 minutes at that point I turned
> off the computer and looked for another game to play, not a bad game
> but certainly not how I remember it. I can’t imagine how I used to
> play it for long lengths of time and the fact that I payed over
> £40 for it makes it even more painful.
>
> Sifting through the cartridges again I came across Sonic 2, the daddy
> of all Megadrive games. I can remember back in the day when it came
> out, the whole Sonic VS Mario thing, hell the launch was so big the
> headteacher of my school mentioned it in assembly to the delight of
> all the students, when I look back to that I realise it was just a sad
> old mans attempt to get the students on his side but anyway,
> nevermind. Flipped the power switch again and up came the Sega logo,
> more cruddy graphics as expected, not as cruddy as Road Rash though,
> the game starts I run through a few levels collecting coins and doing
> Sonic stuff really. 10 minutes later I turn the console off and search
> for a new game, starting to see a pattern here?
>
> Next game I played was Streets of Rage 2, now this is was one of my
> all time favourite games. Looking at it now I kinda wonder why, all
> you do is walk along bash the punch and kick buttons every now and
> then and hope for the best. Don’t get me wrong it’s still fun but the
> game play’s just so damn shallow. There’s no storyline, why on earth
> the police decide to send a group of punk kids on roller blades in to
> beat some crooks up is anybody’s guess, don’t these people have guns?
> So yet again 10 minutes later I turned the console off, punching the
> same enemies in the face gets a tiny bit monotonous after a while.
>
> This process carried on for most of the afternoon, I went through
> Flashback, Another World, Sonic 3, Toe Jam and Earl, T2 Arcade game
> and a few other that sucked the balls so much that I can’t even be
> bothered to type their names out. What’s the point in this topic I
> hear you ask? Well it’s not for me to sl*g off retro games I’ll tell
> you that (though I guess I have already). The point is that I’m fed up
> of seeing people on the Internet going on about “ooooh gaming’s not
> how it used to be”…no it’s not, thank god. The next time you see
> someone say “oooh they don’t make them like they used to” turn round
> and say “shut it you retro tart”. Old games are all good but we as
> gamers have got it so good nowadays, the amount of depth and shear
> diversity in genres cannot be paralleled by the SNES days of gaming
> where it was all platform clone A, platform clone B. Be thankful that
> technology has moved on so rapidly in such a brief space of time.
>
> Just realised this topic isn’t really going anywhere and it's getting
> far too long; it’s more of me ranting cause I bought a Megadrive and
> wasted my money, I would have had more fun paying someone £10 to
> punch me in the face. Anyone want a Megadrive? You pay the postage and
> we can sort something out. I probably shouldn’t post this cause it’s a
> load of rubbish but I’m not typing this much and not pressing post so
> ummm here goes 1…..2……3…….4…..
>
> If anyone actually manages to read the whole thing then I feel for ya
> buddy, you must be even more bored than me.

Oooh they don't make 'em like they used to! Shut it you modern 3D gaming tart! The megadrive and SNES were the best consoles ever! Oh and don't come asking me why I don't claim SNES games for GADs.

Knick Knack
( Formerly known as Corporal Reddles and Hitman Mario)
Sun 10/11/02 at 15:40
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I didn't really like the Mega Drive, apart from Super Off Road and Kid Chameleon, they were great, but let me go through some of my (great) SNES games that i play now and then:

Super Metroid - Still Play It - A Lot
Mario Kart - Great till Super Circuit for the GBA
Mario World - Great, but too easy now
Stunt Race FX - Classy
Super Bomberman - Superb
Donkey Kong 2 - Excellent (But I wanted DK3)
Mortal Kombat 2 - Great Fun
Mario All Stars - Had Mario 3, the best game of all time

All my great games that I remember are above, I've got more, but I can't remember, If I can be bothered goiung to find them, I'll tell you what they were
Sun 10/11/02 at 14:40
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"Cardboard Tube Ninj"
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The Megadrive was 16bit. Playstations were 32 bit.
Sun 10/11/02 at 13:08
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"no longer El Blokey"
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I did a topic like this a while ago.

Get over it. 32bit wasn't all that great.

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