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"Xbox2 will come before PS3!!!!!"

Microsoft has decided to release their new green box of crap(opps did I say that) before the release of the PS3 that will come out around 2005. I think one of the main reasons is that little Billy wasn't to happy about the fact that the Xbox scratches the disc when you put them inside.

The Xbox2 will have a little more advanced graphics in it but the early bird doesn't necessarly get the worm. Do you think the Xbox2 will have the same downfall as the Dreamcast because Sega released their system too early even though it was far superior than the N64 and the Playstation? We will just have to wait and see I guess.

AliBoy wrote:
> But looking at performance there is not a great deal of different
> between the XBox and PS2

Simply not true. The XBox is capable of far, far more than the PS2 is.

Here are a few comparisons...


CPU
XBox - 733MHz
PS2 - 300MHz

Graphics processor
XBox - 300MHz
PS2 - 150MHz

Memory
XBox - 64MB
PS2 - 38MB

Memory Bandwidth
XBox - 6.4GB/sec
PS2 - 3.2GB/sec

I could go on, but I won't.

Check
http://www.gamersmark.com/editorials/view/49/
for a full list of specs.

These specs DO amount so serious performance increases. The simple fact is that there are games available on the XBox which the PS2 simply couldn't handle. Halo, for one. Morrowind for another. There are likely many more, but I'm not well informed enough to be able to rattle them off.

Can we please stop worrying about the future, and enjoy the present (i.e. XBoxs, PS2s and GCs) while we can PLEASE?

And I seem to remember the PS2 appearing on Watchdog for the large amount with faulty PSU's around launch.

Funny how people manage to forget about that, no?

I really was shocked when I saw you as the author for this, Drunk cow.

Right, the Sequel to the XBox is no doubt likely to come before a PS3 is released, this is only due to the fact that even know there is a high demand for units of the PS2 whereas the XBox has been deemed a failure already (Is multiple price drops etc have cost Microsoft a lot)

Nothing at all to do with performance of machines here, just what people buy.
But looking at performance there is not a great deal of different between the XBox and PS2 which to me is a little surprising as the PS2 was out just under a year before the XBox.
There are loads to take into account as to what people like and dislike about consoles ranging from controllers, games, peripherals, who develops for it, cost etc

I think we will see more from Microsoft, but hopefully they will change tehy way they go about things with their next console.

SHEEPY wrote:
> Console doesn't matterm the games available do.

Sometimes though if these great games are on a dumb system that system might stop selling games because their lak in money. That's what we are talking about. Good point though.

Fanboy topic? Oh, was it the green box of crap statement. I only said that because I don't think Xbox2 isn't a very good not because I don't like the Xbox. I like simply made this to inform all of you folk about some game news. I like all the systems! "puts hands up in the sky and looks up" Well maybe I like Ninty a little more but I still support the old Sony.:)

Console doesn't matterm the games available do.

The Dreamcast didn't fail because it was released too early. The Dreamcast failed because nobody had any trust left in Sega...

Oh dear, another fanboy topic. I'd have expected better from you, Drunk Cow.

You contradict yourself with the 'early bird gets the worm...' statement, since the PSone and PS2 were both ahead of the competition, and technologically inferior. Yet you can only see this when it is an opposing console, since you're obviously a Sony fan.

Secondly, only a very small minority of Japanese machines scratched the discs, and that was due to construction faults. Now, to deny the fact that the PS2 had massive launch problems would be lying, because Sony machines are much dodgier and prone to breakdown than Xboxes. Many PS2s seem to break, or stop reading certain discs, just after their warranty expires requiring an £80 fixing fee. Great.

The Xbox is a really good console, the most capable technologically of the three, and probably suffering from lack of third party support. However, the majority of its games are single-format only, so if you want to play Halo, JSRF, Rallisport Challenge (the best rally game on the market, IMO), Dead of Alive 3/volleyball, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Splinter Cell, Toejam and Earl, Blinx etc. then you have to get an Xbox. And while you may not recognise some of the games I've mentioned, or think of them as poor, they are more innovative, and more fun than PS2/GC games. I'd say the Xbox has got the highest number of retro-upgrade games. If you get my meaning.

Anyway, this topic is a poor excuse to trash the Xbox. Xbox is a great console, 2005 is a long way off and the same year scheduled for the PS3. Bill Gates can do what he wants with his money and his company, but the fact remains the the console itself is much better than the PS2, and you can't hack that.