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Tue 26/02/02 at 22:09
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I was off ill from work the other week and decided to read a book i had always wanted to read; 'The Long Hard Road Out of Hell' by Marilyn Manson.

Now before you say Marilyn Manson, he sucks etc etc, I know a lot of people have read this book, people that hate him, people that don't like that type of music etc but the book is really all about the music it's about growing up and coping with fame and faliure. It's actually really really cool.

It gives you an amazing insight in to the whole megastar thing though. I had heard some stuff about bands and their drug and women excess and you think that it's all just blown out of proportion but if this book is to be believed then if anything it's understated!

Anyway there is a part of the book that touches on Satanism and the head minister of the church of Satan Anton LeVay. I was quite interest by what i discovered. I originally thought that Satanism was the worship of the devil and the sacrificing of chickens etc, just like everyone else probably does, but it turns out that this is not true.

If you can be bothered to read any further i'll give you some insight.

Satanism is about worship of yourself and not to a Christian God that there is no real proof of his/her existence. It talks about the natural balance in the world, which is not really as black and white as good and evil. It also talks about the bible and the fact that the stories are fables that were mearly for guidance in hope in trouble times and in order to stop people from commiting deeds that were deemed as evil. How can you follow a book that was written 2000 years ago when the world has change so much since then? The book of Satan was written in a more recent pretence and is probably more relevent today.

I am not advocating Satanism and I am not a Satanist, everything i have written above was just what i read in Marilyn Mansons book but it makes me want to find out more. When books trigger something inside you and make you question the world and find out more about whats out there then that is great. You learn in life by asking questions!

Anyway im done now he he!

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Polybius, the ancient historian, said:

"Since the multitude is ever fickle, full of lawless desires, irrational passions and violence, there is no other way to keep them in order but by the fear and terror of the invisible world; on which account our ancestors seem to me to have acted judiciously, when they contrived to bring into the popular belief these notions of the gods, and of the infernal regions."
Wed 27/02/02 at 17:50
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Belldandy wrote:
c) Read Sum Of All Fears, or Rainbow Six wil probably be
> one you'll find better - less buildup to the main thing.
d) You need to read
> Debt Of Honour to make sense of most of Executive Orders - exec orders is like
> part 2.
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I've read most of Tom Clancy's books, and they were all great. For your information Belldandy i have read Dept of Honor and it was great, but i still think Executive Orders was too bloody long and tedious. I mean, nothing actually happens from about Pages 200-800!

Has anyone else read it, and if so did you find it bloody boring as well?
Wed 27/02/02 at 17:28
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"Tat Twam Asi"
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MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Has anyone read any of the following books?

Die Hard

The Thing

The
> Running Man


The Thing was based on the film, but the other two had films
> based on them, just wondering if they're good

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I have read the Running Man by Mr Richard Bachman (aka Stephen King), thought it was a brilliant book, much better than the movie!
Wed 27/02/02 at 17:25
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Anyone here read graphic novels ? The entire Sandman series is well worth reading, as are the two Death graphic novels.

At the moment I've just read Transmetropolitcan ; Lust for life and its great, very weird but great. The story "another cold morning" is one of the best I've seen in the way it is told.
Wed 27/02/02 at 16:58
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"That's right!"
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Has anyone read any of the following books?

Die Hard

The Thing

The Running Man


The Thing was based on the film, but the other two had films based on them, just wondering if they're good
Wed 27/02/02 at 16:57
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"Gamertag Star Fury"
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Boblin Brown wrote:
> Has anyone read 'Executive Orders' by Tom Clancy?
>If you haven't then don't.
> I got so bored of it i had to stop, it's just so bloody >TEDIOUS!!!

a) It not tedious.
b) Its background material.
c) Read Sum Of All Fears, or Rainbow Six wil probably be one you'll find better - less buildup to the main thing.
d) You need to read Debt Of Honour to make sense of most of Executive Orders - exec orders is like part 2.
Wed 27/02/02 at 16:45
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"That's right!"
Posts: 10,645
Technically I'm still reading Jaws, even though I haven't touched it in about 4 months (rough guess, it's probably even longer than that)
Wed 27/02/02 at 16:27
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I love reading books I just don't have as much time as I'd like.

I'm currently reading Companero... a biography on Che Guevara.
Wed 27/02/02 at 15:38
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"Sanity is for loser"
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Hybrid Valves wrote:
> Hey, let him burst in, im not preaching, just sharing an opinion!

Do you not know what Ant is capable of? you have doomed us all!

*Darkness runs round in circles flailing his arms uncontrollably in the air*
Wed 27/02/02 at 09:12
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"Tat Twam Asi"
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Hey, let him burst in, im not preaching, just sharing an opinion!
Wed 27/02/02 at 07:49
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> I'm currently reading War and Peace... God knows why...

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Everyone should read the book.

It's crap, but hey. Everyone should also read LotR.

That's great.

Hybrid Valves, now you have to wait for Ant to burst in here and claim you are extracting Christianity from the forums with a Satan-shaped syringe. I bet you like Devil Potter, too.

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