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What's all the crap I hear about Microsoft trying to monopolise the gaming market. They're "buying all the other companies" and "using their money to get what they want"... aparantly. I beg to differ.
To begin with, let's have a look at the above quotes.
Contrary to popular belief, MS have not bought any big games companies. They bought Bungie- who are so small the MS relocated every single person in the company- and more recently Rare- the tiny midlands developer. No sign of any big publishers yet. And what have they done with these companies? Microsoft allowed Bungie so many resources that Halo has been nominated for "Game of the Year" awards numerous times. Is this a bad thing?
At the same time, MS are throwing money at other publishers for exclusives. Which is exactly what Sony did with the PS1. In both situations the companies gave wods of cash, development tools and premade libraries to third party developers to produce exclusive games. This is how Sony wooed Konami, Square and Namco away from Nintendo.
And this all adds up towards a great thing for gamers. If the Xbox's successor gets nearer to Sony's sales figures then we will once more find ourselves in a console wars where it is the games that determine the outcome, and not company branding. Let's face it, the PS2 had no competition when it came out, and the quality of games was nowhere near as paramount as it had been in, say, the SNES vs Mega Drive days.
So, to those who curse the Xbox, think before you speak. MS have not bought out many companies, made any more third party deals than any other manufacturer (including Sega!), and are certainly not dominating the market. Competition is good.
Sonic
To begin with, let's have a look at the above quotes.
Contrary to popular belief, MS have not bought any big games companies. They bought Bungie- who are so small the MS relocated every single person in the company- and more recently Rare- the tiny midlands developer. No sign of any big publishers yet. And what have they done with these companies? Microsoft allowed Bungie so many resources that Halo has been nominated for "Game of the Year" awards numerous times. Is this a bad thing?
At the same time, MS are throwing money at other publishers for exclusives. Which is exactly what Sony did with the PS1. In both situations the companies gave wods of cash, development tools and premade libraries to third party developers to produce exclusive games. This is how Sony wooed Konami, Square and Namco away from Nintendo.
And this all adds up towards a great thing for gamers. If the Xbox's successor gets nearer to Sony's sales figures then we will once more find ourselves in a console wars where it is the games that determine the outcome, and not company branding. Let's face it, the PS2 had no competition when it came out, and the quality of games was nowhere near as paramount as it had been in, say, the SNES vs Mega Drive days.
So, to those who curse the Xbox, think before you speak. MS have not bought out many companies, made any more third party deals than any other manufacturer (including Sega!), and are certainly not dominating the market. Competition is good.
Sonic
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Miserableman wrote:
> I will also end by voicing disagreement to this statement. Nintendo
> should not get the industry back, they are greedier perhaps even than
> Microsoft, but without the business savvy to go with it.
>
> Unless they change once Yamauchi gets on his bike.
He doesnt have a Bike, all the Nintendo-haters Took it/burned it/made a new earring. and By the way. Here in America the Xbox Games are Highly over priced when gamecube Games are fairly Priced.
> I will also end by voicing disagreement to this statement. Nintendo
> should not get the industry back, they are greedier perhaps even than
> Microsoft, but without the business savvy to go with it.
>
> Unless they change once Yamauchi gets on his bike.
He doesnt have a Bike, all the Nintendo-haters Took it/burned it/made a new earring. and By the way. Here in America the Xbox Games are Highly over priced when gamecube Games are fairly Priced.
er-no wrote:
> Goes to bed.
>
> Nice debate. Don't mind continuing it but it would only be a
> regressive circle now.
>
> Nintendo should dominate. End of.
For God's sake, have you not listened...
SEGA should dominate
> Goes to bed.
>
> Nice debate. Don't mind continuing it but it would only be a
> regressive circle now.
>
> Nintendo should dominate. End of.
For God's sake, have you not listened...
SEGA should dominate
er-no wrote:
> Nintendo should dominate. End of.
I will also end by voicing disagreement to this statement. Nintendo should not get the industry back, they are greedier perhaps even than Microsoft, but without the business savvy to go with it.
Unless they change once Yamauchi gets on his bike.
> Nintendo should dominate. End of.
I will also end by voicing disagreement to this statement. Nintendo should not get the industry back, they are greedier perhaps even than Microsoft, but without the business savvy to go with it.
Unless they change once Yamauchi gets on his bike.
Goes to bed.
Nice debate. Don't mind continuing it but it would only be a regressive circle now.
Nintendo should dominate. End of.
Nice debate. Don't mind continuing it but it would only be a regressive circle now.
Nintendo should dominate. End of.
er-no wrote:
> No launching date known as yet. It was announced about 8 weeks back
> and has probably been in dev for some time.
>
> Will keep you posted though. Heh.
Thank you.
> No launching date known as yet. It was announced about 8 weeks back
> and has probably been in dev for some time.
>
> Will keep you posted though. Heh.
Thank you.
PsychoticKiller wrote:
> er-no wrote:
> Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
> I know That But i mean Wasnt it Seconded By rare? from what i remember
> All the Games on N64 had Rare Assisted.(donkey kong games)
>
> Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have
> already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
>
> Tell....Me....Launching...Date..
No launching date known as yet. It was announced about 8 weeks back and has probably been in dev for some time.
Will keep you posted though. Heh.
> er-no wrote:
> Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
> I know That But i mean Wasnt it Seconded By rare? from what i remember
> All the Games on N64 had Rare Assisted.(donkey kong games)
>
> Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have
> already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
>
> Tell....Me....Launching...Date..
No launching date known as yet. It was announced about 8 weeks back and has probably been in dev for some time.
Will keep you posted though. Heh.
er-no wrote:
> Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
I know That But i mean Wasnt it Seconded By rare? from what i remember All the Games on N64 had Rare Assisted.(donkey kong games)
> Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have
> already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
Tell....Me....Launching...Date..
> Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
I know That But i mean Wasnt it Seconded By rare? from what i remember All the Games on N64 had Rare Assisted.(donkey kong games)
> Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have
> already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
Tell....Me....Launching...Date..
PsychoticKiller wrote:
> I Think if Rare were to go Solo and Be Their OWN advertiser and keep
> going Along with The Donkey Kong Saga They would Do Just Fine. With
> the Support from MS, they have done Much better. But i EXPECT to See
> some Donkey kong-related games on GAMECUBE and or Xbox.
Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
> I Think if Rare were to go Solo and Be Their OWN advertiser and keep
> going Along with The Donkey Kong Saga They would Do Just Fine. With
> the Support from MS, they have done Much better. But i EXPECT to See
> some Donkey kong-related games on GAMECUBE and or Xbox.
Donkey Kong is a Nintendo franchise.
Its a Nintendo exclusive franchise at the moment and Nintendo have already announced a Nintendo GameCube exclusive game.
I Think if Rare were to go Solo and Be Their OWN advertiser and keep going Along with The Donkey Kong Saga They would Do Just Fine. With the Support from MS, they have done Much better. But i EXPECT to See some Donkey kong-related games on GAMECUBE and or Xbox.
===SONICRAV---> wrote:
> Oh, and er-no, what's the complete rubbish about Rare crumbling under
> MS. Rare chose MS as their business partners and have proclaimed that
> they are getting great support.
If you take the time to go back to how I said it I did ask the question then give my own opinion. Miserable had a great point about the actual original Rare team mostly leaving to form Free Radical (an ironic name).
Rare can proclaim what they want. They may have the same name as they used to, but its not the same company.
Also, some of the points were about the PC market and Microsoft. Yet I fail to see how you missed the points I have offered about Microsoft in the gaming market. I go to the PC market because it does some up Microsoft in general. Americans. Thats what.
> Oh, and er-no, what's the complete rubbish about Rare crumbling under
> MS. Rare chose MS as their business partners and have proclaimed that
> they are getting great support.
If you take the time to go back to how I said it I did ask the question then give my own opinion. Miserable had a great point about the actual original Rare team mostly leaving to form Free Radical (an ironic name).
Rare can proclaim what they want. They may have the same name as they used to, but its not the same company.
Also, some of the points were about the PC market and Microsoft. Yet I fail to see how you missed the points I have offered about Microsoft in the gaming market. I go to the PC market because it does some up Microsoft in general. Americans. Thats what.
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