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Unlike most Hollywood film lovers i like to watch all sorts of different films, and i regard myself as a film buff. i believe i know alot about film, and i want to share my knowledge with you, the members of this board. now, there have been alot of discussion about what time was the best for films, and i think i speak for all of us here that it was the 90's, i mean, the 90's had everything, from the epic blockbusters of Gladiator and Titanic to the surreal thrillers like the sixth sense and fight club (a film starring brad pitt, but not hollywood). there were great action films too, but i prefer more intellectual films like fight club. and all the best directors like Ridley Scott (of Gladiator and Hannibal fame) and David Fincher (of Fight Club fame) started their carrers in the 90's. what other period in time since film began 50 years ago boast nuturing two such great and different talents that are Fincher and Scott. Now dont get me wrong, i also like old films like Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction, which are also very clever and have goo directors, but all they did was make that one flim and then i havent seen any more from them.
So, i think that the future of films is in good hands, with people like David Fincher, Ridley Scott and Kevin Smith making films we are in the best period of films since it began.
thank you 90's you ARE the best! (but maybe the next ten years may have some more to offer) If you have any questions regarding these films i mentioned that you may not have heard of, i.e fight club or Goodfellas, i can give you some more information on them, they are tough to watch, but if you know your movies - like me!! haha-modest ;) then you should be able to understand them.
Also, have a look out for some new films which i am trying to find, like Memento, which is meant to be a flim shot in reverse (sounds wierd i know, but try it!) and Sexy Beast which i kind of a gangster film, but not as good as Goodfellas.
sorry for the long post, but when i get talking about movies i just cant stop, thanks for reading!!
So, i think that the future of films is in good hands, with people like David Fincher, Ridley Scott and Kevin Smith making films we are in the best period of films since it began.
thank you 90's you ARE the best! (but maybe the next ten years may have some more to offer) If you have any questions regarding these films i mentioned that you may not have heard of, i.e fight club or Goodfellas, i can give you some more information on them, they are tough to watch, but if you know your movies - like me!! haha-modest ;) then you should be able to understand them.
Also, have a look out for some new films which i am trying to find, like Memento, which is meant to be a flim shot in reverse (sounds wierd i know, but try it!) and Sexy Beast which i kind of a gangster film, but not as good as Goodfellas.
sorry for the long post, but when i get talking about movies i just cant stop, thanks for reading!!
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Shut up BumFluff
Filmbuff is someone pretending to be an annoying JAT...
He's getting to some of you..
At least I was nice to him and didn't rise to the bait
...yet - You £$%!*#@!!!!
He's getting to some of you..
At least I was nice to him and didn't rise to the bait
...yet - You £$%!*#@!!!!
FilmBuff wrote:
> i know more then you.
Which is why in the Kevin Smith thread he says Mallrats was Smith's first film, when it was Clerks ! duh....
> i know more then you.
Which is why in the Kevin Smith thread he says Mallrats was Smith's first film, when it was Clerks ! duh....
Some black and white films are excellent - let us not forget Night Of The Living Dead
And Ed Wood
And apparantly Schindler's List is good (never seen it myself)
And Ed Wood
And apparantly Schindler's List is good (never seen it myself)
Do you realise how much of an idiot you look to anyone who knows anything about films. You claim to be a Film Buff, but you stick your nose up at black and white films. You say you don't like hollywood films, but you constantly name two of them as your favourites. You might convince the proles that you know things about film, but you have just fallen flat on your face here, because it is my JOB to know things about films. That is how I make my living. You want to know how many films I've seen? Well at the last count, and I can name all of them because of my job, it was 3572. Not bad considering I know nothing about films. You want to name all the films you have seen? Have you ever seen a Black and White film? Have you ever seen a film made before 1990?
You sir, are an idiot, and you're only digging yourself a deeper hole wiyth each reply. Shall I predict your next reply? I think it will go something like
"You don't know anything about films, unlike me, who knows that Gladiator and Fight Club are the best and deserve worshipping, and the sacrifice of a goat every third sunday"
Please Shut up. It's for your own good.
You sir, are an idiot, and you're only digging yourself a deeper hole wiyth each reply. Shall I predict your next reply? I think it will go something like
"You don't know anything about films, unlike me, who knows that Gladiator and Fight Club are the best and deserve worshipping, and the sacrifice of a goat every third sunday"
Please Shut up. It's for your own good.
i know more then you. i have seen alot more films then you. and maybe its just that you cant handle the thought provoking films such as fight club and Gladiator and resort to old fashioned easy mainstreem 'classics' which all the critics love. i am a film buff becase i love new and original ideas rather then old fashioned and boring black and white films. long live Kevin Smith and Ridley Scott!!!
im like Kevin SMith and you are like an old fashioned livin-in-the-past film buff wannabe.
im like Kevin SMith and you are like an old fashioned livin-in-the-past film buff wannabe.
FilmBuff wrote:
> all the films that you named were american or american financed, so you
> disproved your own point. plus, there are barely any japanese films made,
> especially in the 60's and 70's, and what is so great about them? can any of
> them be remembered now? no. the simple reason, because films like Gladiator and
> Fight Club are way better intellectually and that is what a true film buff like
> myself prefer.
Yes, all of the films I named for the 90's were American, which is exactly my point, that there is an american stranglehold on the market, which is not a completely bad thing because there are many many good american films, it just stifles the film industries in other countries a bit.
The ones I named for the 60's and 70's were certainly not all american.Only 5 of the 12 I mentioned had any US involvement. The others were a mixture of British and Italian films.
And as for saying that there were barely any Japanese films made, that just shows what kind of a Phony film buff you are. Here, my friend, is a 'few' Japanese films from that era that you may enjoy:
Seven Samurai
Rashomon
Yojimbo
Ikiru
Ran
Throne of Blood
The Ransom
Tokyo Story
Red Beard
Kaidan
The Hidden Fortress
Sanjuro
Tora! Tora! Tora!
And here are a couple of more recent ones:
Princess Mononoke
Yi yi
Battle Royale
Shall We Dance
Ghost in the Shell
Ring + Ring 2 + Ring 0
Audition (A personal favourite of mine)
So don't try and pretend that you know anything about films again, because you so obviously don't. Most people, even those who are not interested in films as such have seen Gladiator and Fight Club, and while they are good, they are hardly the top of the interlectual table. If you want clever films, try Memento or The Sting or possibly Witness for the Prosecution.
And Amores Perros is already out on DVD in both Region 1 and 2.
> all the films that you named were american or american financed, so you
> disproved your own point. plus, there are barely any japanese films made,
> especially in the 60's and 70's, and what is so great about them? can any of
> them be remembered now? no. the simple reason, because films like Gladiator and
> Fight Club are way better intellectually and that is what a true film buff like
> myself prefer.
Yes, all of the films I named for the 90's were American, which is exactly my point, that there is an american stranglehold on the market, which is not a completely bad thing because there are many many good american films, it just stifles the film industries in other countries a bit.
The ones I named for the 60's and 70's were certainly not all american.Only 5 of the 12 I mentioned had any US involvement. The others were a mixture of British and Italian films.
And as for saying that there were barely any Japanese films made, that just shows what kind of a Phony film buff you are. Here, my friend, is a 'few' Japanese films from that era that you may enjoy:
Seven Samurai
Rashomon
Yojimbo
Ikiru
Ran
Throne of Blood
The Ransom
Tokyo Story
Red Beard
Kaidan
The Hidden Fortress
Sanjuro
Tora! Tora! Tora!
And here are a couple of more recent ones:
Princess Mononoke
Yi yi
Battle Royale
Shall We Dance
Ghost in the Shell
Ring + Ring 2 + Ring 0
Audition (A personal favourite of mine)
So don't try and pretend that you know anything about films again, because you so obviously don't. Most people, even those who are not interested in films as such have seen Gladiator and Fight Club, and while they are good, they are hardly the top of the interlectual table. If you want clever films, try Memento or The Sting or possibly Witness for the Prosecution.
And Amores Perros is already out on DVD in both Region 1 and 2.
God, I hated Fargo...
But Amores Perros rules. Any idea when it's out on DVD, happy man?
But Amores Perros rules. Any idea when it's out on DVD, happy man?
FilmBuff wrote:
> Now dont get me wrong, i
> also like old films like Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction, which are also very clever
> and have goo directors, but all they did was make that one flim and then i
> havent seen any more from them.
Good points but the bit I've quoted did make me cringe a little... Pulp Fiction is hardly old, and nor is cinema only 50 years old. And the director of Goodfellas was Martin Scorcsese one of, if not the best director of the past 20 years. Check out Mean Streets and Raging Bull, both classic films that will continue to make top 100 polls until the immortal cows come home.
The 90's has been great for directors mainly because of the introduction of new technologies - the steadycam is a relatively modern innovation and it's broadened the range of things that directors can do with the camera massively. Personally I think the advent of DVD commentaries will see the best directors coming through in the next few generations. Cinematic knowlege is no longer the preserve of a select few and now young directors can learn from oldhands with ease.
However, innovation stretches way back. Throughout the history of cinema young upstart directors of all nationalities have come along and done something stunning that no one else had previously done. While they may have secured their own fame, they also helped to evolve cinema to its current state. For instance I'm going to a lecture on the "new wave" French cinema of the 50's on Saturday, mainly because I'm doing films for my coursework, but there's another period where a group of directors suddenly rose up and started making unique films. Pioneers like Jean-luc Godard were among the first to use the jump cut technique; now common place in many films.
If you want to broaden your horizons then try looking back as well; in recent years there have been few films that have immediately permeated top 100 polls. Cinema's not just about the modern; it's also about heritage and even in a period of brainless boring blockbusters, there's still a wealth of films you can delve into to satisfy your needs.
Good post though. Here's my tips for films you might like:
something old: "39 steps" (Hitchcock version)
Something new: "Amores Perros" (superb mexican film)
something borrowed: "Fargo" (I can only find it at blockbuster!)
Something Blue: "Blue Velvet" (David Lynch masterpiece - contains Dennis Hopper as the scariest villain ever)
> Now dont get me wrong, i
> also like old films like Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction, which are also very clever
> and have goo directors, but all they did was make that one flim and then i
> havent seen any more from them.
Good points but the bit I've quoted did make me cringe a little... Pulp Fiction is hardly old, and nor is cinema only 50 years old. And the director of Goodfellas was Martin Scorcsese one of, if not the best director of the past 20 years. Check out Mean Streets and Raging Bull, both classic films that will continue to make top 100 polls until the immortal cows come home.
The 90's has been great for directors mainly because of the introduction of new technologies - the steadycam is a relatively modern innovation and it's broadened the range of things that directors can do with the camera massively. Personally I think the advent of DVD commentaries will see the best directors coming through in the next few generations. Cinematic knowlege is no longer the preserve of a select few and now young directors can learn from oldhands with ease.
However, innovation stretches way back. Throughout the history of cinema young upstart directors of all nationalities have come along and done something stunning that no one else had previously done. While they may have secured their own fame, they also helped to evolve cinema to its current state. For instance I'm going to a lecture on the "new wave" French cinema of the 50's on Saturday, mainly because I'm doing films for my coursework, but there's another period where a group of directors suddenly rose up and started making unique films. Pioneers like Jean-luc Godard were among the first to use the jump cut technique; now common place in many films.
If you want to broaden your horizons then try looking back as well; in recent years there have been few films that have immediately permeated top 100 polls. Cinema's not just about the modern; it's also about heritage and even in a period of brainless boring blockbusters, there's still a wealth of films you can delve into to satisfy your needs.
Good post though. Here's my tips for films you might like:
something old: "39 steps" (Hitchcock version)
Something new: "Amores Perros" (superb mexican film)
something borrowed: "Fargo" (I can only find it at blockbuster!)
Something Blue: "Blue Velvet" (David Lynch masterpiece - contains Dennis Hopper as the scariest villain ever)
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