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"Cheats - who needs them?"

I think that cheats ruin a game. When you buy a game, you buy it so you can play it and enjoy it. But what's the point of buying a game and then when you get stuck on a level or you run out of ammo etc. you put on a cheat and automatically go on to the next level. I would keep on trying till you do it, which makes the game much more exicting.

I think cheats are okay once you've completed the game fully, and the replay value has gone, to put on the cheats and muck about.

What do you think?

In fact, have Spinner and co. done anything whatsoever since last round to stop people using bots? It doesn't sound much like it from what you've said.

Cheats rule, playing through a game with God mode and all weapons on just for fun is great!

You just blast away!

You know, I had a feeling PA was lurking behind the words of your post somewhere ;)

I suggest you tell Spinner to implement the same system Utopia uses - every 5th login (or something like that), a gif image shows up, with a number in it. You have to type the number to proceed. If not, you get reported, and possibly deleted.

If anyone thinks thay can write a bot with Symbolic image recognition and edge detection to determine the number on the gif unaided, they're welcome to try ;)

VenomByte wrote:
'Clean' competitors will always get better scores, yet the cheaters can still cheat if they want. Everyone's happy.

Tell that to Spinner (-:
They had to delete 623 planets from Planetarion this morning because 'somehow' they all managed to launch at the no.1 (Fury) Galaxy within seconds of each other last night.

I'll concede that this is a different scenario to normal cheating because we're talking about money when it comes to Planetarion, which some people actually pay to play only to have their fun wiped out by cheaters.

Thing about cheat, is that they're optional. If you don't want to use them, you don't. Simple enough

A good cheating system, was the one on Master Of Orion 2. There were cheats which would give you more cash, of edit a planet's structures and suchlike, but using said cheat dramatically reduced you score.

That gives the best of both worlds really. 'Clean' competitors will always get better scores, yet the cheaters can still cheat if they want. Everyone's happy.

I think that all games should come with their cheats 'built in' and uncrackable except for by playing the game itself. That way, you're forced to play to get unlimited ammo, special weapons, hidden levels, new modes etc.

If it was structured correctly, as we've seen recently with Agent Under Fire and Wipeout Fusion, these things that you unlock can actually be used from the start of the game to get you further if you're stuck on a section.

I don't see the point in providing cheats per se, unless of course there is a thriving casual gamer market out there that demands cheats in great quantities because they can't be bothered or aren't capable of finishing a game the way it was designed to be finished.

Oh, wait, there must be a thriving casual gamer market out there, hence www.ukcheats.com

RM18 wrote:
> American Ninja wrote:
> I think this whole idea of cheats and the need to
> unlock stuff in games is
> really time consuming. Sure, it's nice to have a
> game where you must unlock
> stuff to get to this and that; it adds true
> depth to the game. But who wants
> that in racing games - ESPECIALLY RACING
> GAMES -

We want to play with all the
> cars, all the characters, and have
> all the top stats for each racer, right? So
> why do games in this genre
> carry on doing this stupid thing about unlocking this
> and unlocking that;
> beat the game once and beat it again another time to get so
> and so
> things.

It's redilculous


If people use cheats then they are taking away
> any replay value that the game might have. It is annoying if they do that then
> say the game doesn't last

Adding on to what RM18 said if you use cheats you can't get any satisfaction out of completing a game fully.

American Ninja wrote:
> I think this whole idea of cheats and the need to unlock stuff in games is
> really time consuming. Sure, it's nice to have a game where you must unlock
> stuff to get to this and that; it adds true depth to the game. But who wants
> that in racing games - ESPECIALLY RACING GAMES -

We want to play with all the
> cars, all the characters, and have all the top stats for each racer, right? So
> why do games in this genre carry on doing this stupid thing about unlocking this
> and unlocking that; beat the game once and beat it again another time to get so
> and so things.

It's redilculous


If people use cheats then they are taking away any replay value that the game might have. It is annoying if they do that then say the game doesn't last

I think this whole idea of cheats and the need to unlock stuff in games is really time consuming. Sure, it's nice to have a game where you must unlock stuff to get to this and that; it adds true depth to the game. But who wants that in racing games - ESPECIALLY RACING GAMES -

We want to play with all the cars, all the characters, and have all the top stats for each racer, right? So why do games in this genre carry on doing this stupid thing about unlocking this and unlocking that; beat the game once and beat it again another time to get so and so things.

It's redilculous

Cheats don't really matter if you are unlocking football teams or something, but they really spoil the game if you are playing an adventure game or something