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This thread has been linked to the game 'Mass Effect 3'.
Over the past year or two there's been a trend emerging of penalizing people who buy second hand copies of games. Typically this involves giving people bonus downloadable content if they buy a game new, via redemption of a code. Or - and this is a bit more unethical - withholding the multiplayer portion of a game unless you buy a new copy or spend extra money to buy a multiplayer code.
However, EA - who coincidentally have been nominated for The Consumerist's 'Worst Company' award - have taken things a step further with Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 2 gave you a bunch of extra bits and bats if you bought the game new or purchased a 'Cerberus Pass'. Mass Effect 3 doesn't have this option - instead, if you buy the game second hand you have to pay extra to get access to the game's online features of the game.
So how is that new? After all, Mass Effect is largely a single player experience. The difference is that to get the best ending in Mass Effect 3 - although I could make a separate post about how poor the endings are - you need to have an in-game military strength of 5000. This means completing a bunch of side quests etc to raise your military strength to this level. But your ending is also affected by the in-game 'galactic readiness' stat. If you don't play the online portion of the game, this is set at 50% which means that your military strength is halved.
What this really means is that if you buy the game second hand, it's twice as hard to get the best ending. Having a new purchase only multiplayer portion isn't all that new, but Mass Effect 3 actively penalizes people who bought the game second hand, making it harder to properly 'win' the game. Which given that, either way, you've paid money for the game, is a hell of a thing to do.
However, EA - who coincidentally have been nominated for The Consumerist's 'Worst Company' award - have taken things a step further with Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 2 gave you a bunch of extra bits and bats if you bought the game new or purchased a 'Cerberus Pass'. Mass Effect 3 doesn't have this option - instead, if you buy the game second hand you have to pay extra to get access to the game's online features of the game.
So how is that new? After all, Mass Effect is largely a single player experience. The difference is that to get the best ending in Mass Effect 3 - although I could make a separate post about how poor the endings are - you need to have an in-game military strength of 5000. This means completing a bunch of side quests etc to raise your military strength to this level. But your ending is also affected by the in-game 'galactic readiness' stat. If you don't play the online portion of the game, this is set at 50% which means that your military strength is halved.
What this really means is that if you buy the game second hand, it's twice as hard to get the best ending. Having a new purchase only multiplayer portion isn't all that new, but Mass Effect 3 actively penalizes people who bought the game second hand, making it harder to properly 'win' the game. Which given that, either way, you've paid money for the game, is a hell of a thing to do.
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Comparing a videogames company to Hitler? You guys make me sick
If anything Hitler gave more than you bargained for
If anything Hitler gave more than you bargained for
Chas & DL seem interested in becoming suckers.......I mean customers and at £25 a pack I reckon we might be onto a winner here!
Spoken like a true Darksider!
Spoken like a true Darksider!
Dr. Garin wrote:
Clearly you're Hitler then for trying to charge us for something thats already on the page.
I must admit I had my suspicions, glad to finally get proof!
I'm afraid not Garin, I developed those 2 bonus Nazi's alongside my original post, so they were never intended to be included...
Chas & DL seem interested in becoming suckers.......I mean customers and at £25 a pack I reckon we might be onto a winner here!
Now I have truly joined the dark side! ;)
Clearly you're Hitler then for trying to charge us for something thats already on the page.
I must admit I had my suspicions, glad to finally get proof!
I'm afraid not Garin, I developed those 2 bonus Nazi's alongside my original post, so they were never intended to be included...
Chas & DL seem interested in becoming suckers.......I mean customers and at £25 a pack I reckon we might be onto a winner here!
Now I have truly joined the dark side! ;)
DL wrote:
Indeed chas and perhaps England and the Home Guard and perhaps Beefeaters will be available soon too .... "I'm so excited" ;¬)
Yup, should be good...
Probably should wait for the game of the year edition, 'cos it'll include everything without the fuss.
Heard the Russian add on got cancelled half way through though:-)
Indeed chas and perhaps England and the Home Guard and perhaps Beefeaters will be available soon too .... "I'm so excited" ;¬)
Yup, should be good...
Probably should wait for the game of the year edition, 'cos it'll include everything without the fuss.
Heard the Russian add on got cancelled half way through though:-)
Indeed chas and perhaps England and the Home Guard and perhaps Beefeaters will be available soon too .... "I'm so excited" ;¬)
pete_21 wrote:
Dr. Garin wrote:
[i]Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Great idea Garin, we could include Hitler, Goebbels & Goering in the comparison but I'm afraid that anyone wanting to include
will need to send me £25 by Paypal.
However, anyone who is clever and devious enough to work out where I have hidden them in this post could perhaps hack it and use them for free!
:P[/i]
Will the first "expansion pack" include parts of Europe?
Dr. Garin wrote:
[i]Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Great idea Garin, we could include Hitler, Goebbels & Goering in the comparison but I'm afraid that anyone wanting to include
will need to send me £25 by Paypal.
However, anyone who is clever and devious enough to work out where I have hidden them in this post could perhaps hack it and use them for free!
:P[/i]
Will the first "expansion pack" include parts of Europe?
Clearly you're Hitler then for trying to charge us for something thats already on the page.
I must admit I had my suspicions, glad to finally get proof!
I must admit I had my suspicions, glad to finally get proof!
Dr. Garin wrote:
Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Great idea Garin, we could include Hitler, Goebbels & Goering in the comparison but I'm afraid that anyone wanting to include
will need to send me £25 by Paypal.
However, anyone who is clever and devious enough to work out where I have hidden them in this post could perhaps hack it and use them for free!
:P
Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Great idea Garin, we could include Hitler, Goebbels & Goering in the comparison but I'm afraid that anyone wanting to include
will need to send me £25 by Paypal.
However, anyone who is clever and devious enough to work out where I have hidden them in this post could perhaps hack it and use them for free!
:P
Dr. Garin wrote:
Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Why limit it to Capcom? If we're gonna do it, let's include everyone and be fair...
Well, we've just about destroyed the entire gaming world's reputation, I think it might be time to quit!:-)
Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
Why limit it to Capcom? If we're gonna do it, let's include everyone and be fair...
Well, we've just about destroyed the entire gaming world's reputation, I think it might be time to quit!:-)
Should we just compare Capcom to Nazi Germany now and get it over with? Then we can declare the thread complete!
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