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I really have had enough. Time and time again it will happen and can we do anything about it? No! What am i talking about you may ask. Well my freinds, let me tell you that the subject in matter is that about Censorship and age limits.
The other day i walked into a games shop and asked them if they could tell me the release date of 'state of emergency'. After a very rude sigh from the assistant, he got out his schedule book and was ready to announce the date when he said "Hang on, This game is rated 18, therefore you have no reason to know the release date". I felt this was very very unproffesional and i didn't think he was allowed to judge people like that. After a few angry seconds i replied "My brother who is 18 would like to know". This time he told me the date (22nd feb) and i left, pretty annoyed.
The thing that angered me most about this though was not that he refused to tell me the date but simply because of the fact that a 15 year old kid can't purchase a game such as 'State of emergency'. Why should i be not allowed? Do they really think that i will pick up a glass bottle, smash someone over the head with it, and then run, just because i played it in a game? Don't think so. In fact you could call that insulting to me and my family. Making out i was brought up rough and am stupid enough to think glassing someone is clever. The whole idea of games is to enjoy something that is not otherwise possible in the real world, not to learn the best way of killing someone. Who do they think we are? A bunch of raving looneys?
Take this for an example. Your sitting in your room playing the 15 years rated 'Metal Gear Solid 2' when you think to yourself "It would be really good if i hurled myself of a bridge, crept onto a tanker ship, then started blasting the day lights out of about 50 terrorists." Its just not something you do! For a start this sort of situation isn't available to you and second you must be pretty dumb if you think you can play the part of Solid Snake in real life. Another game 'Quake 3' sees you fighting aliens and unhuman life forms on distant planets. Its rated 15 because of the violence. Why though? Do they think people under 15 will go off and fly to a place from outer space and start blasting aliens just because they saw something like this on a computer game?
The other day i borrowed FIFA 2002 off a mate. I got bored and thought "Hmmm....wonder how many players i can get sent off?" After a few minutes my Red card rampage had finished resulting in 2 Broken legs, a torn ligament, and a broken collar bone. All this happened on a game that is rated 'ok' for 3 year olds. So if this sort of violence is ok for 3 year olds then how come a 'Mature' 15 year old can't wintness something like GTA3?
There may be some 18 year olds thinking "Hah, I'm over 18, it's ok for me". Well your wrong. Several games have already been banned completely because of their content. These include PSOne's 'Thrill Kill' a four player fighting game which saw people ripping off limbs, killing people with scalpuls, and kicking people in the privates. Also banned was a game called 'Football Hooligans', a strategy game where you had to control a herd of raging hooligans trying to wreak havoc among a peaceful football match. Do they really think a game like this would encourage trouble at matches? Well i think the thugs you see on the news are too busy being morons in foreign countries rather than playing computer games!
As well as games being banned the computing world has also seen 'Game Taming'. Games such as GTA3 which are deemed to be 'too violent' have had to become less 'bad' in order to be allowed a release in the UK. This means that the game may become less fun or key parts get missed out. 'Twisted Metal: Black' losing it's 'Violent' but key FMV sequences is a good example of this. This move as many of the games owners know totally wrecked the story line.
And the reason 'State of emergency' has been put back? You can bet your life savings it's because Rockstar have been made to tame their game.
So this problem seems to be affecting us all. Something needs to be done. After all most the decent games seem to be over 15 age rated. Do we really want to be left with all cutesy platformers......I think not.
Thanks for reading.
NAT.
The other day i walked into a games shop and asked them if they could tell me the release date of 'state of emergency'. After a very rude sigh from the assistant, he got out his schedule book and was ready to announce the date when he said "Hang on, This game is rated 18, therefore you have no reason to know the release date". I felt this was very very unproffesional and i didn't think he was allowed to judge people like that. After a few angry seconds i replied "My brother who is 18 would like to know". This time he told me the date (22nd feb) and i left, pretty annoyed.
The thing that angered me most about this though was not that he refused to tell me the date but simply because of the fact that a 15 year old kid can't purchase a game such as 'State of emergency'. Why should i be not allowed? Do they really think that i will pick up a glass bottle, smash someone over the head with it, and then run, just because i played it in a game? Don't think so. In fact you could call that insulting to me and my family. Making out i was brought up rough and am stupid enough to think glassing someone is clever. The whole idea of games is to enjoy something that is not otherwise possible in the real world, not to learn the best way of killing someone. Who do they think we are? A bunch of raving looneys?
Take this for an example. Your sitting in your room playing the 15 years rated 'Metal Gear Solid 2' when you think to yourself "It would be really good if i hurled myself of a bridge, crept onto a tanker ship, then started blasting the day lights out of about 50 terrorists." Its just not something you do! For a start this sort of situation isn't available to you and second you must be pretty dumb if you think you can play the part of Solid Snake in real life. Another game 'Quake 3' sees you fighting aliens and unhuman life forms on distant planets. Its rated 15 because of the violence. Why though? Do they think people under 15 will go off and fly to a place from outer space and start blasting aliens just because they saw something like this on a computer game?
The other day i borrowed FIFA 2002 off a mate. I got bored and thought "Hmmm....wonder how many players i can get sent off?" After a few minutes my Red card rampage had finished resulting in 2 Broken legs, a torn ligament, and a broken collar bone. All this happened on a game that is rated 'ok' for 3 year olds. So if this sort of violence is ok for 3 year olds then how come a 'Mature' 15 year old can't wintness something like GTA3?
There may be some 18 year olds thinking "Hah, I'm over 18, it's ok for me". Well your wrong. Several games have already been banned completely because of their content. These include PSOne's 'Thrill Kill' a four player fighting game which saw people ripping off limbs, killing people with scalpuls, and kicking people in the privates. Also banned was a game called 'Football Hooligans', a strategy game where you had to control a herd of raging hooligans trying to wreak havoc among a peaceful football match. Do they really think a game like this would encourage trouble at matches? Well i think the thugs you see on the news are too busy being morons in foreign countries rather than playing computer games!
As well as games being banned the computing world has also seen 'Game Taming'. Games such as GTA3 which are deemed to be 'too violent' have had to become less 'bad' in order to be allowed a release in the UK. This means that the game may become less fun or key parts get missed out. 'Twisted Metal: Black' losing it's 'Violent' but key FMV sequences is a good example of this. This move as many of the games owners know totally wrecked the story line.
And the reason 'State of emergency' has been put back? You can bet your life savings it's because Rockstar have been made to tame their game.
So this problem seems to be affecting us all. Something needs to be done. After all most the decent games seem to be over 15 age rated. Do we really want to be left with all cutesy platformers......I think not.
Thanks for reading.
NAT.
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Natbuc wrote:
So this problem seems to be
> affecting us all. Something needs to be done. After all most the decent games
> seem to be over 15 age rated. Do we really want to be left with all cutesy
> platformers......I think not.
No we dont want our games to be all cutesy platformers. But first about the censorship. To be honest i think its there for a good reason, to try and stop younger audiences from playing the games and seeing what they show when they play the game. With games having better graphics all the time they become to look realer all the time and so they are having to have the same ratings slapped on them as the film indutsry. Also it leaves the parents of there children feeling that they are that little bit more protected from it.
Think about it, if GTA 3 did not have an 18 age rating and was brought out where anyone could buy it then most parents would possibly start and potition to get the game banned and just set games like that further back. At least with an age rating people who disapprove of these types of games have nothing much they can really do, it has a rating and therefore should only be available to people old enough to get it, but we all know that anyone can get any game.
On the other hand though, in my opinion, the age ratings are stupid, for starters anyone can get any game they want somehow, when i was younger if i was refused the game i would get a stranger in the shop to get it me, there are ways around it. But the major point is that these things are only games, something to take the stress away, make the time pass by and basicly enjoy your self on them. If people are affected by the games and are possessed to carry out acts in real life then they need to be locked up some where safe. I fail to see why sain people would even think about copying GTA 3 for example. But that just what i think really, they are important in some ways and rather silly in others.
As for your incident, thats just down right arrogance by the EB worker, like you said to him, it was for your brother and how was he not to know that. But thats just EB workers for you, there very nice if there getting money from you but otherwise you dont get the time of day. At least you got a date though. :D
So this problem seems to be
> affecting us all. Something needs to be done. After all most the decent games
> seem to be over 15 age rated. Do we really want to be left with all cutesy
> platformers......I think not.
No we dont want our games to be all cutesy platformers. But first about the censorship. To be honest i think its there for a good reason, to try and stop younger audiences from playing the games and seeing what they show when they play the game. With games having better graphics all the time they become to look realer all the time and so they are having to have the same ratings slapped on them as the film indutsry. Also it leaves the parents of there children feeling that they are that little bit more protected from it.
Think about it, if GTA 3 did not have an 18 age rating and was brought out where anyone could buy it then most parents would possibly start and potition to get the game banned and just set games like that further back. At least with an age rating people who disapprove of these types of games have nothing much they can really do, it has a rating and therefore should only be available to people old enough to get it, but we all know that anyone can get any game.
On the other hand though, in my opinion, the age ratings are stupid, for starters anyone can get any game they want somehow, when i was younger if i was refused the game i would get a stranger in the shop to get it me, there are ways around it. But the major point is that these things are only games, something to take the stress away, make the time pass by and basicly enjoy your self on them. If people are affected by the games and are possessed to carry out acts in real life then they need to be locked up some where safe. I fail to see why sain people would even think about copying GTA 3 for example. But that just what i think really, they are important in some ways and rather silly in others.
As for your incident, thats just down right arrogance by the EB worker, like you said to him, it was for your brother and how was he not to know that. But thats just EB workers for you, there very nice if there getting money from you but otherwise you dont get the time of day. At least you got a date though. :D
oh well, i think were just gonna have to put up with it, but what i do find enoying is when u can't buy a 15 game when your 15, my mate had that problem the other day.
Legendary Link wrote:
> no they wouldent, and if there was no age limit the parents might think the game
> is suitable.
Which is why I think there should be a suggestion on the pack which would tell the parents of a young child wheather or not it is suitable, but it wouldn't prevent any older people (such as myself), from buying a game that I know I would be able to cope with.
> no they wouldent, and if there was no age limit the parents might think the game
> is suitable.
Which is why I think there should be a suggestion on the pack which would tell the parents of a young child wheather or not it is suitable, but it wouldn't prevent any older people (such as myself), from buying a game that I know I would be able to cope with.
its true silent hill 2 or re code veronica x in the hands of a 8 year old would play with their minds and they would have nightmare after nightmare and then their parents would complain that they werent warned of the consiquences of the game they were buying....... etc. So age restrictions are good but who bothers with them anyway if i want a game i have to wait either for x-mas or birthday or when my mom can come so i can get an adult game, think of the children who have been effected by the ones that dont give a damm and go ahead using evil from 18 rated games!
its true silent hill 2 or re code veronica x in the hands of a 8 year old would play with their minds and they would have nightmare after nightmare and then their parents would complan that they werent warned of the consiquences of the game they were buying....... etc. So age restrictions are good but who bothers with them anyway if i want a game i have to wait either for x mas or birthday or when my mom can come so i can get an adult game, think of the children who have been effected by the ones that dont give a damm and go ahead using evil from 18 rated games!
no they wouldent, and if there was no age limit the parents might think the game is suitable.
Legendary Link wrote:
> Another thing, you would'ent want ya todler getting silent hill 2.
Would a todler be able to get the money to go up to the counter, and buy the game themself without asking their parents first?
> Another thing, you would'ent want ya todler getting silent hill 2.
Would a todler be able to get the money to go up to the counter, and buy the game themself without asking their parents first?
Legendary Link wrote:
> I think the age limit now is ment to appeal to older fans who would buy a game
> more because it has a high age limit, like in films. age limit is sometimes
> higher because of how hard the game is aswell as content.
Well then, that is being selfish. I agree that some makers put an 18 logo on it to make it seem more tough, and not a wimps game. The the person buying it will think they look 'Cool'. But why should this mean I'm not allowed to buy the game?
I can see what you are saying, and I agree with it. I just think the age limit is stupid.
> I think the age limit now is ment to appeal to older fans who would buy a game
> more because it has a high age limit, like in films. age limit is sometimes
> higher because of how hard the game is aswell as content.
Well then, that is being selfish. I agree that some makers put an 18 logo on it to make it seem more tough, and not a wimps game. The the person buying it will think they look 'Cool'. But why should this mean I'm not allowed to buy the game?
I can see what you are saying, and I agree with it. I just think the age limit is stupid.
Another thing, you would'ent want ya todler getting silent hill 2.
I think the age limit now is ment to appeal to older fans who would buy a game more because it has a high age limit, like in films. age limit is sometimes higher because of how hard the game is aswell as content.
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