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Wrestling, or the World Wrestling Entertainment industry as some of you avid fans would have me refer to it as, is increasing ever more in its popularity. I myself used to be a fan of it for about a year and watched most of the shows and events, but gradually got bored. From the perspective of a person who no longer watches wrestling I see it as greasy, sweaty men in trunks throwing each other around a ring and pretending to get hurt, and if it was merely just that then not so many people would pay to see live events and tune in to watch it 2 or 3 times a week.
I don’t understand myself why I watched it, if I thought that the Rock was really been hit over the head with a sledgehammer by Stone Cold, or not. I now know that everything is choreographed and it is more of a performance than a fight, but do people not realise this? The Americans do have a reputation for been a little more gullible than the British so it is likely that a fair few of them believe everything that it going on within the squared circle is real. The thing that gets me though it seeing fans that look about 30 or 40 cheering along at the top of their lungs to “Beat his head in”. I would overlook this if they had a son or daughter in tow, but they don’t. I watched wrestling avidly for a good year of my life and enjoyed it but I hit 15 and grew out of it. I see it more as a fad than something you watch for the rest of your life. I think people who pay good money to go and see some staged fighting when they are 30 years old is wrong. They can spend a lot less going to a pub and watching the brawl after closing time, and this isn’t fake violence. So if it isn’t the violence the fans crave what is it?
Do people watch it for its engrossing storylines? This is something I doubt very much. As I said before I watched wrestling for about a year and I noticed the storylines are repeated in a 3-month cycle. There is an affair, someone winning a belt unfairly and a mystery person attacking the ‘good guy’. These storylines are re-used time and time again with a different wrestler filling a different role each time. As I that weren’t bad enough, none of them could act to save their lives. They are trained athletes, yes, but none of them went to acting school did they? I don’t directly oppose trying to fit storylines into the programme as it gives motives for fights which is better than all out violence, and gives the audience someone to cheer for and someone to boo. What irritates me is people using their fame as a wrestler to release a low budget film of their own, riding entirely on the success of a cameo role in The Mummy Returns. Yes, if you didn’t realise I am talking about The Rock’s movie, The Scorpion King, which made him even richer despite the fact the storyline was poor and his acting was drastically worse.
So do people watch for the women? I firstly would like to mention that the way women are treated in the organisation is morally wrong. They are young girls pumped full of silicon and steroids and thrown into a mud wrestling pit or topless sun cream contest (Or whatever they have thought up now). Now I am no prude, don’t get me wrong, I would enjoy watching that sort of thing if it had a show of its own right, but it is merely a ratings booster. They draw millions of desperate hormonal males to an arena to watch “live mud wrestling”. They are unlikely to care about the championship match or the hardcore title been on the line, oh no, they just want boobs and collagen filled lips, and who could blame them? The WWF, or WWE as it is now known, uses adolescent (and desperate) males, to their complete and utter advantage. If we look at some of the women on the roster we will find Trish Stratus, very nice looking woman, the plastic surgeons finest hour if you will. She is used as a trophy girl, she makes her living by escorting muscular fellers to the ring and wearing low cut tops, and who could blame her! I cannot imagine her parents are too pleased though. There were some more serious competitors in the old WWF, namely Chyna, but she got a playboy deal (God knows why!) and then left for unknown reasons. So the only women left in the business are trophy girls who parade their ample surgically enhanced bosoms in skin tight tops for a living. I don’t quite understand how this constitutes as making them wrestlers, they are more of showgirls really, which the WWE use to their advantage to boost their ratings and make people tune into Smackdown rather than a re-run of the fast show.
So if we took the storylines and the scantily clad women out of the formula, what is left? Fake violence and stupidly high risked stunts, the latter is the only one that is really appealing. Fake violence is what I expect to see on the likes of Coronation Street or in a pantomime, not in a live show, which tells people “do not copy this at home”. What is not to copy? Are easily influenced kids not to pretend to slap their friend with a car tire? The fake violence, I cannot imagine, is much of a ratings winner, seeing as it is easy to see how fake it is and how laughably ridiculous how a wrestler reacts when the other hits him with a leg drop. So, the high risked stunts are all that are left it seems. Such high risk manoeuvres include the Swanton bomb, as utilised by the Hardy Boys, powerbombing a wrestler through a table/steel cage/stage or throwing another wrestler onto a chair/barbed wire/electric fence with killer bee’s taped to it. These high risk moves get the adrenalin pumping though our veins and get us excited seeing them. But such spectacular occurrences have left some wrestlers maimed or even dead. Such wrestlers as Owen Hart have died to try and make the industry that little bit more exciting.
So whatever WWE has that makes millions of fans tune in each week is beyond me. Perhaps it is the high risk endeavours of superstars, maybe it is to see who the next champions will be or perhaps it is just because they like someone to cheer on. Whatever it is, it certainly works, and for the life of me I cannot figure out what it is.
-Kyz²²-
I don’t understand myself why I watched it, if I thought that the Rock was really been hit over the head with a sledgehammer by Stone Cold, or not. I now know that everything is choreographed and it is more of a performance than a fight, but do people not realise this? The Americans do have a reputation for been a little more gullible than the British so it is likely that a fair few of them believe everything that it going on within the squared circle is real. The thing that gets me though it seeing fans that look about 30 or 40 cheering along at the top of their lungs to “Beat his head in”. I would overlook this if they had a son or daughter in tow, but they don’t. I watched wrestling avidly for a good year of my life and enjoyed it but I hit 15 and grew out of it. I see it more as a fad than something you watch for the rest of your life. I think people who pay good money to go and see some staged fighting when they are 30 years old is wrong. They can spend a lot less going to a pub and watching the brawl after closing time, and this isn’t fake violence. So if it isn’t the violence the fans crave what is it?
Do people watch it for its engrossing storylines? This is something I doubt very much. As I said before I watched wrestling for about a year and I noticed the storylines are repeated in a 3-month cycle. There is an affair, someone winning a belt unfairly and a mystery person attacking the ‘good guy’. These storylines are re-used time and time again with a different wrestler filling a different role each time. As I that weren’t bad enough, none of them could act to save their lives. They are trained athletes, yes, but none of them went to acting school did they? I don’t directly oppose trying to fit storylines into the programme as it gives motives for fights which is better than all out violence, and gives the audience someone to cheer for and someone to boo. What irritates me is people using their fame as a wrestler to release a low budget film of their own, riding entirely on the success of a cameo role in The Mummy Returns. Yes, if you didn’t realise I am talking about The Rock’s movie, The Scorpion King, which made him even richer despite the fact the storyline was poor and his acting was drastically worse.
So do people watch for the women? I firstly would like to mention that the way women are treated in the organisation is morally wrong. They are young girls pumped full of silicon and steroids and thrown into a mud wrestling pit or topless sun cream contest (Or whatever they have thought up now). Now I am no prude, don’t get me wrong, I would enjoy watching that sort of thing if it had a show of its own right, but it is merely a ratings booster. They draw millions of desperate hormonal males to an arena to watch “live mud wrestling”. They are unlikely to care about the championship match or the hardcore title been on the line, oh no, they just want boobs and collagen filled lips, and who could blame them? The WWF, or WWE as it is now known, uses adolescent (and desperate) males, to their complete and utter advantage. If we look at some of the women on the roster we will find Trish Stratus, very nice looking woman, the plastic surgeons finest hour if you will. She is used as a trophy girl, she makes her living by escorting muscular fellers to the ring and wearing low cut tops, and who could blame her! I cannot imagine her parents are too pleased though. There were some more serious competitors in the old WWF, namely Chyna, but she got a playboy deal (God knows why!) and then left for unknown reasons. So the only women left in the business are trophy girls who parade their ample surgically enhanced bosoms in skin tight tops for a living. I don’t quite understand how this constitutes as making them wrestlers, they are more of showgirls really, which the WWE use to their advantage to boost their ratings and make people tune into Smackdown rather than a re-run of the fast show.
So if we took the storylines and the scantily clad women out of the formula, what is left? Fake violence and stupidly high risked stunts, the latter is the only one that is really appealing. Fake violence is what I expect to see on the likes of Coronation Street or in a pantomime, not in a live show, which tells people “do not copy this at home”. What is not to copy? Are easily influenced kids not to pretend to slap their friend with a car tire? The fake violence, I cannot imagine, is much of a ratings winner, seeing as it is easy to see how fake it is and how laughably ridiculous how a wrestler reacts when the other hits him with a leg drop. So, the high risked stunts are all that are left it seems. Such high risk manoeuvres include the Swanton bomb, as utilised by the Hardy Boys, powerbombing a wrestler through a table/steel cage/stage or throwing another wrestler onto a chair/barbed wire/electric fence with killer bee’s taped to it. These high risk moves get the adrenalin pumping though our veins and get us excited seeing them. But such spectacular occurrences have left some wrestlers maimed or even dead. Such wrestlers as Owen Hart have died to try and make the industry that little bit more exciting.
So whatever WWE has that makes millions of fans tune in each week is beyond me. Perhaps it is the high risk endeavours of superstars, maybe it is to see who the next champions will be or perhaps it is just because they like someone to cheer on. Whatever it is, it certainly works, and for the life of me I cannot figure out what it is.
-Kyz²²-
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Doesn't mean he won't do it.
GTA Gangster wrote:
> Wrestling is good
You cannot just present a 3 word opinion and expect me to conceed.
> Wrestling is good
You cannot just present a 3 word opinion and expect me to conceed.
Wrestling is good
To cjh:
Thanks for the lengthy response, however I wasnt criticising anyone on their opinions, everyone is entitled to beleive what they wish. I think you were wrong though that all wrestling fans know it isnt real violence, I beleive a number of wrestling fans assume every little thing occuring in the ring is 100% realistic. Anyway, enough from me now and thankyou for sharing your opinion, long as it may be.
Thanks for the lengthy response, however I wasnt criticising anyone on their opinions, everyone is entitled to beleive what they wish. I think you were wrong though that all wrestling fans know it isnt real violence, I beleive a number of wrestling fans assume every little thing occuring in the ring is 100% realistic. Anyway, enough from me now and thankyou for sharing your opinion, long as it may be.
Yes, the WWE was formally known to it's fans as the 'WWF' or World Wrestling Federation. However, it's full name was 'World Wrestling Federation Entertainment' or 'WWFE', but as you can see, WWF sounded better than WWFE, so they naturally opted to advertise themselves purely as the 'WWF'.
The World Wildlife Fund didn't like the advertised name, and so forced them to change it, so the company decided to simply drop the 'F' and 'Federation' and re-introduce the 'E' and 'Entertainment' bit.
Simple really :)
But back to the main post.
Of course, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion about anything and everything. However, I do feel you appear to be criticising people who enjoy the WWE ever so slightly, just because you don't get it, I maybe wrong, but that's the impression I got.
Pretty much everything you have seen, see now and will see in the future on T.V. is purely there to be entertaining, that's generally the whole idea behind Television Networks now, after all, if something isn't entertaining, it won't attract viewers, and the channel won't make money.
The WWE is one of those forms of entertainment. It's the type of entertainment that appeals to wrestling fans. I would like to point out the huge mistake non-wrestling fans make time and time again, which is why they always say it's crap. Wrestling is exactly what it says on the tin ... 'wrestling', not fighting. Fighting is what you see in the school yard or outside a pub, where the people involved are intent on hurting one another. Wrestling, on the other hand, is intent on displaying an array of manuvers to wear down an opponent in the aid of defeating him, not beating him half to death. Wrestling is as real as it needs to be, because of what it is. That's the mistake people make, they believe wrestling organisations try and look like real fighting, rather than what real fans know, it's 'wrestling'. (god, I said 'wrestling a lot there, sorry).
However, to make it more simple, us 'wrestling fans' are aware that it is not real fighting, and that the contenders in the ring are not hurting each other as much as they make out to be.
When it comes to live events, the reason you see people of all ages getting up and cheering/booing/whatever, it simply because of the atmosphere. you have football fans of all ages, why not wrestling fans??? or any other sport/entertainment for that fact?? I once when to a live event, and it was a blast, I'd recommend it to anyone, even people who don't normally watch the stuff on TV, its just a bit of fun :)
I would like to correct you on Trish Stratus. She has moved up since her days as mearly walking down with a male wrestler, and is one of the highest rated females wrestlers at the present time.
Kyz22 wrote:
> So whatever WWE has that makes millions of fans tune in each week is
> beyond me. Perhaps it is the high risk endeavours of superstars, maybe
> it is to see who the next champions will be or perhaps it is just
> because they like someone to cheer on.
That's exactly the reasons people watch the WWE, the cool moves, the championships the choreography, their favourite superstar, it's all something that makes people come back to watch more. Oh, and yes, it does seem to work :).
Of course, if it's something you yourself don't enjoy, or find entertaining, then that's cool. But I hope you now see a little of what other see in the WWE ..... if not, I've just wasted 5 mins of your time :).
The World Wildlife Fund didn't like the advertised name, and so forced them to change it, so the company decided to simply drop the 'F' and 'Federation' and re-introduce the 'E' and 'Entertainment' bit.
Simple really :)
But back to the main post.
Of course, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion about anything and everything. However, I do feel you appear to be criticising people who enjoy the WWE ever so slightly, just because you don't get it, I maybe wrong, but that's the impression I got.
Pretty much everything you have seen, see now and will see in the future on T.V. is purely there to be entertaining, that's generally the whole idea behind Television Networks now, after all, if something isn't entertaining, it won't attract viewers, and the channel won't make money.
The WWE is one of those forms of entertainment. It's the type of entertainment that appeals to wrestling fans. I would like to point out the huge mistake non-wrestling fans make time and time again, which is why they always say it's crap. Wrestling is exactly what it says on the tin ... 'wrestling', not fighting. Fighting is what you see in the school yard or outside a pub, where the people involved are intent on hurting one another. Wrestling, on the other hand, is intent on displaying an array of manuvers to wear down an opponent in the aid of defeating him, not beating him half to death. Wrestling is as real as it needs to be, because of what it is. That's the mistake people make, they believe wrestling organisations try and look like real fighting, rather than what real fans know, it's 'wrestling'. (god, I said 'wrestling a lot there, sorry).
However, to make it more simple, us 'wrestling fans' are aware that it is not real fighting, and that the contenders in the ring are not hurting each other as much as they make out to be.
When it comes to live events, the reason you see people of all ages getting up and cheering/booing/whatever, it simply because of the atmosphere. you have football fans of all ages, why not wrestling fans??? or any other sport/entertainment for that fact?? I once when to a live event, and it was a blast, I'd recommend it to anyone, even people who don't normally watch the stuff on TV, its just a bit of fun :)
I would like to correct you on Trish Stratus. She has moved up since her days as mearly walking down with a male wrestler, and is one of the highest rated females wrestlers at the present time.
Kyz22 wrote:
> So whatever WWE has that makes millions of fans tune in each week is
> beyond me. Perhaps it is the high risk endeavours of superstars, maybe
> it is to see who the next champions will be or perhaps it is just
> because they like someone to cheer on.
That's exactly the reasons people watch the WWE, the cool moves, the championships the choreography, their favourite superstar, it's all something that makes people come back to watch more. Oh, and yes, it does seem to work :).
Of course, if it's something you yourself don't enjoy, or find entertaining, then that's cool. But I hope you now see a little of what other see in the WWE ..... if not, I've just wasted 5 mins of your time :).
Santaaaaaaa!!!!!! YAY. Ahem. I'll go back to my forum now.
Kyz22 wrote:
> The "E" in WWE, is actually there because the current WWF
> (World Wildlife Federation) forced them to change their initials after
> winning a court battle, so there :-P
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The real company name was WWFE anyway, though, and still is, I think.
Just used WWF on TV.
> The "E" in WWE, is actually there because the current WWF
> (World Wildlife Federation) forced them to change their initials after
> winning a court battle, so there :-P
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The real company name was WWFE anyway, though, and still is, I think.
Just used WWF on TV.
I used to watch wrestling to, but i only watched it for the moves, you never know when it might come in handy :-D
The "E" in WWE, is actually there because the current WWF (World Wildlife Federation) forced them to change their initials after winning a court battle, so there :-P
I was just conveying my point of view mate, nothing more.
I was just conveying my point of view mate, nothing more.
Go tell the people in the WWE forum that its all planned and everything like that.
They would all say the same thing, apart from DW... he still believes in Santa the poor little fella.
"I know."
Because, guess what... we do know!
But that doesnt spoil our fun. Its entertainment for god sake. What do you think the 'E' stands for in WWE.
Bah.
Y'know how watching various TV programs and playing videogames entertains you... right? Well the same goes for wrestling fans. We see it as entertainment.
Afterall, it is a big show with a storyline etc.
They would all say the same thing, apart from DW... he still believes in Santa the poor little fella.
"I know."
Because, guess what... we do know!
But that doesnt spoil our fun. Its entertainment for god sake. What do you think the 'E' stands for in WWE.
Bah.
Y'know how watching various TV programs and playing videogames entertains you... right? Well the same goes for wrestling fans. We see it as entertainment.
Afterall, it is a big show with a storyline etc.
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