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Becoming James Bond is every mans dream, Beautiful women, fast cars, working for MI6 and becoming and international spy. You can almost mark it on your calendar every year that a new James Bond game will be released and nearly always it coincides with a film release. Before ‘007 In Agent under Fire’ Bond games were based around the movie release of that year and this limited EA’s use of the bond license. If you had seen the film you knew what was going to happen in the game, however this wasn’t the only thing which kept the Bond games from reaching their potential. After ‘Goldeneye’ EA would always have a hard job at creating a game to challenge Rare’s classic but every year that has passed since gamers (including myself) have kept their fingers crossed for a release that would defy the greatest bond game ever created!
EA started with a 3rd person adventure that they thought would give Bond fans a different perspective on the action and a chance to control their idol from a different angle. It all started with the release of ‘Tomorrow Never Dies’ on the Playstation and ever since EA haven’t looked back! ‘Tomorrow Never Dies’ relied on the film script to push the game through every step but it wasn’t enough for Bond fans and the game turned out to be a huge disappointment. EA tried to include gadgets, guns and vehicles but the game was over shadowed by ‘Goldeneye’ in every way. The Nintendo 64 was the most powerful console the world had seen and with twice the power of the Playstation Bond fans were hungry for more, not from EA but from Rare!
People hoped that maybe EA and Rare would team up to create the ultimate Bond experience however this wasn’t to be. Rare had handed over the licence to EA like a set of car keys and their Bond classic was the new benchmark which EA new they would have to beat in order to earn the respect they hoped for. Surely the Bond licence wasn’t going to be wasted wouldn’t the gadgets, beautiful Bond girls and the element of Stealth be the inspiration that EA needed to create a classic? Questions were asked but EA couldn’t reply.
As yet another year went by yet another game which fell short of Goldeneye was released, this time the World really wasn’t enough. Using the limited hardware of the Playstation EA couldn’t reach the graphical limit of what the Nintendo 64 used to create Goldeneye. As with the previous EA Bond release ‘The World Is Not Enough’ was powered by the coincidental film release from MGM studios. Taking the Bond game back into First Person View Point EA had the license to turn a great film into an equally great game. The game started promisingly, the first level gradually drew you into the world of James Bond before dropping you from a great height and then stamping on you as if to say “We give up”!
The Playstation was coming to the end of its life and the Nintendo 64 wasn’t selling enough for Nintendo to keep up with Sony’s breath taking sales figures. This was the moment EA had hoped for, a console that was faster and more powerful than the Nintendo 64, a console that would create the Goldeneye beater! Along came the release of the Playstation 2, the October of 2000 would hopefully see the look of EA and MGM Interactive studios change, the break they needed had arrived!
EA and MGM Interactive (along with a 3rd party developer) were quickly working away on the first bond game not to be based on the release of a film. Previews excited Bond fans across the world, EA promised that this would be the game to ‘Challenge Everything’ this would be EA’s new motto! Going by the name of ‘007 In Agent under Fire’ the game would see the player controlling Bond through is most exciting adventure yet and in an adventure that would see a mixture of Shooting, Driving and On-Rail missions. The game was finally released on the American shores and at first gamers took to it like a horse to water, but things soon went from bad to worse. Once again the game fell drastically short of the Goldeneye classic, the shooting missions lacked inspiration, the driving missions lacked in length and the On-Rail missions weren’t enough to change the every day Bond ‘wannabe’!
Gamers had lost faith with EA, MGM interactive and 3rd party developers were reluctant to work with EA on their next Bond release. ‘Agent under Fire’ was better than its EA predecessors but it wasn’t enough to keep Bond fans coming back for more, sales were going well but reputations were getting shaken, that’s ‘shaken not stirred!’ EA didn’t waste any time though and they were looking for a 3rd party developer to work with them on their next bond game.
November 2001 and EA were ready to confirm the name of their next bond release. Finally the hardcore Bond fans that had stood by EA through a set of below average games were waiting for the title of the next game; they were waiting with baited breath and crossed fingers. The date arrived and the name was released out of the bag, going by the name ‘007 Nightfire’ the game would see gamers take on the role of Bond in a whole new adventure that would be a standalone release with a totally original storyline! Was it going to be role on 2002 or role back to the Nintendo 64? Was it going to be a Bond too far?
EA had teamed up with ‘EUROCOM’ to develop the next Bond game which once again was described as a Goldeneye beater! Positive previews kept the anticipation alive, yet another Christmas release was set to boost sales of the game. Trailers were released on Television sets and the game looked promising. November came around and the game was released across all 3 next generation consoles as well as the PC. Bond fans rushed out to the shops to grab what could be the game they had waited over 4 years for. Being a big fan of First Person shooter games and stealth I was one of those anticipating the release and the game I had waited so long for arrived only this time I wasn’t disappointed.
Mixing elements from Bond films across the years as well as taking elements from the positive sides of ‘Agent under Fire’ and ‘Goldeneye’ the game is a blast, this is the game that not only has it shaken me but I have also been stirred! The graphics are lush, the gameplay is positively brilliant and I would say that the ‘Goldeneye’ beater has arrived. EA ask the question “Do you have what it takes to be BOND?” and I reply with a big fat yes along with a thankyou, a thankyou for creating one of my favourite releases on 2002 and a thankyou for restoring my faith in the Bond licence. Have EA and ‘EUROCOM’ brought us a ‘Bond too far’? Or is this the start of the Bond revolution? The evidence lies within the game and on that evidence alone I would have to say Roll on 2003 and not roll back Nintendo 64!
Thankyou for Reading
~ALASTAIR~
EA started with a 3rd person adventure that they thought would give Bond fans a different perspective on the action and a chance to control their idol from a different angle. It all started with the release of ‘Tomorrow Never Dies’ on the Playstation and ever since EA haven’t looked back! ‘Tomorrow Never Dies’ relied on the film script to push the game through every step but it wasn’t enough for Bond fans and the game turned out to be a huge disappointment. EA tried to include gadgets, guns and vehicles but the game was over shadowed by ‘Goldeneye’ in every way. The Nintendo 64 was the most powerful console the world had seen and with twice the power of the Playstation Bond fans were hungry for more, not from EA but from Rare!
People hoped that maybe EA and Rare would team up to create the ultimate Bond experience however this wasn’t to be. Rare had handed over the licence to EA like a set of car keys and their Bond classic was the new benchmark which EA new they would have to beat in order to earn the respect they hoped for. Surely the Bond licence wasn’t going to be wasted wouldn’t the gadgets, beautiful Bond girls and the element of Stealth be the inspiration that EA needed to create a classic? Questions were asked but EA couldn’t reply.
As yet another year went by yet another game which fell short of Goldeneye was released, this time the World really wasn’t enough. Using the limited hardware of the Playstation EA couldn’t reach the graphical limit of what the Nintendo 64 used to create Goldeneye. As with the previous EA Bond release ‘The World Is Not Enough’ was powered by the coincidental film release from MGM studios. Taking the Bond game back into First Person View Point EA had the license to turn a great film into an equally great game. The game started promisingly, the first level gradually drew you into the world of James Bond before dropping you from a great height and then stamping on you as if to say “We give up”!
The Playstation was coming to the end of its life and the Nintendo 64 wasn’t selling enough for Nintendo to keep up with Sony’s breath taking sales figures. This was the moment EA had hoped for, a console that was faster and more powerful than the Nintendo 64, a console that would create the Goldeneye beater! Along came the release of the Playstation 2, the October of 2000 would hopefully see the look of EA and MGM Interactive studios change, the break they needed had arrived!
EA and MGM Interactive (along with a 3rd party developer) were quickly working away on the first bond game not to be based on the release of a film. Previews excited Bond fans across the world, EA promised that this would be the game to ‘Challenge Everything’ this would be EA’s new motto! Going by the name of ‘007 In Agent under Fire’ the game would see the player controlling Bond through is most exciting adventure yet and in an adventure that would see a mixture of Shooting, Driving and On-Rail missions. The game was finally released on the American shores and at first gamers took to it like a horse to water, but things soon went from bad to worse. Once again the game fell drastically short of the Goldeneye classic, the shooting missions lacked inspiration, the driving missions lacked in length and the On-Rail missions weren’t enough to change the every day Bond ‘wannabe’!
Gamers had lost faith with EA, MGM interactive and 3rd party developers were reluctant to work with EA on their next Bond release. ‘Agent under Fire’ was better than its EA predecessors but it wasn’t enough to keep Bond fans coming back for more, sales were going well but reputations were getting shaken, that’s ‘shaken not stirred!’ EA didn’t waste any time though and they were looking for a 3rd party developer to work with them on their next bond game.
November 2001 and EA were ready to confirm the name of their next bond release. Finally the hardcore Bond fans that had stood by EA through a set of below average games were waiting for the title of the next game; they were waiting with baited breath and crossed fingers. The date arrived and the name was released out of the bag, going by the name ‘007 Nightfire’ the game would see gamers take on the role of Bond in a whole new adventure that would be a standalone release with a totally original storyline! Was it going to be role on 2002 or role back to the Nintendo 64? Was it going to be a Bond too far?
EA had teamed up with ‘EUROCOM’ to develop the next Bond game which once again was described as a Goldeneye beater! Positive previews kept the anticipation alive, yet another Christmas release was set to boost sales of the game. Trailers were released on Television sets and the game looked promising. November came around and the game was released across all 3 next generation consoles as well as the PC. Bond fans rushed out to the shops to grab what could be the game they had waited over 4 years for. Being a big fan of First Person shooter games and stealth I was one of those anticipating the release and the game I had waited so long for arrived only this time I wasn’t disappointed.
Mixing elements from Bond films across the years as well as taking elements from the positive sides of ‘Agent under Fire’ and ‘Goldeneye’ the game is a blast, this is the game that not only has it shaken me but I have also been stirred! The graphics are lush, the gameplay is positively brilliant and I would say that the ‘Goldeneye’ beater has arrived. EA ask the question “Do you have what it takes to be BOND?” and I reply with a big fat yes along with a thankyou, a thankyou for creating one of my favourite releases on 2002 and a thankyou for restoring my faith in the Bond licence. Have EA and ‘EUROCOM’ brought us a ‘Bond too far’? Or is this the start of the Bond revolution? The evidence lies within the game and on that evidence alone I would have to say Roll on 2003 and not roll back Nintendo 64!
Thankyou for Reading
~ALASTAIR~
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This argument didn't arise because the game doesn't appeal to him but because he calls the game rubbish which the game clearly isn't! I can understand that not everyone is prepared to stick with the story when the game is in its early stages, but for the ones who stick with it know the rewards later on with the great fight scenes and amazing QTE cinematics. What I still can't understand is after all the comments I have given to him from others about the game saying how it is one of the greatest ever that he can still turn around and continue to call it rubbish. When will he realise that Shenmue is a part of gaming history? Even if you don't like the game it doesn't stop it from being one of the best ever!
Shenmue's a superb game, I can understand that it won't appeal to all but it's one of my all time favourite games.
WS wrote:
> Maybe it's because Da GAMECUBE LAYS DA SMACK DOWN ON ALL YOU XBOX
> JABRONIS
I think you dont like Shenmue because it dont have the Rock or Kane in it.
Just one of many conclusions i get from reading your muck.
> Maybe it's because Da GAMECUBE LAYS DA SMACK DOWN ON ALL YOU XBOX
> JABRONIS
I think you dont like Shenmue because it dont have the Rock or Kane in it.
Just one of many conclusions i get from reading your muck.
*Yawn Yawn*
Ok little boy its time you moved along to go and play Mario goes to Luigi's House for tea. Shenmue is quite clerly too much of a grown up game for you to handle and you are still going through the 'lying to others to make a point' stage of your life. Your arguments are not structured and you even resorted to typing in Cap-Locks what a WWE wrestler says to try and get your point over, enough said! You keep trying to explain what an RPG is about yet Shenmue isn't an RPG it is an adventure game with tiny RPG elements. I noticed you couldn't reply to the examples I gave you from just a couple of clicks with my mouse, whats wrong little boy are you scared that the game might actually be good? Or are you ringing up your friend to get more information about the game!
You know why I don't believe you? I don't believe you because if you thought that a game was so BAD you wouldn't go out and purchase the sequel now would you? Even if you owned both at the same time you would not go through a game after playing a prequel that you clearly thought was one of the worst ever made. I think your mommy has made you some cup-cakes so be a good little oy an only take ONE otherwsie Father Christmas won't be visiting your house with Disney Adventure 2 next year! That is of course if you don't find the puzzles too difficult or if Mickey uses violence towards wildlife.
*Yawns*
Ok little boy its time you moved along to go and play Mario goes to Luigi's House for tea. Shenmue is quite clerly too much of a grown up game for you to handle and you are still going through the 'lying to others to make a point' stage of your life. Your arguments are not structured and you even resorted to typing in Cap-Locks what a WWE wrestler says to try and get your point over, enough said! You keep trying to explain what an RPG is about yet Shenmue isn't an RPG it is an adventure game with tiny RPG elements. I noticed you couldn't reply to the examples I gave you from just a couple of clicks with my mouse, whats wrong little boy are you scared that the game might actually be good? Or are you ringing up your friend to get more information about the game!
You know why I don't believe you? I don't believe you because if you thought that a game was so BAD you wouldn't go out and purchase the sequel now would you? Even if you owned both at the same time you would not go through a game after playing a prequel that you clearly thought was one of the worst ever made. I think your mommy has made you some cup-cakes so be a good little oy an only take ONE otherwsie Father Christmas won't be visiting your house with Disney Adventure 2 next year! That is of course if you don't find the puzzles too difficult or if Mickey uses violence towards wildlife.
*Yawns*
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
Why do I get the feeling
> that you are a GameCube owner and for that reason you hate me as an
> Xbox owner?
Maybe it's because Da GAMECUBE LAYS DA SMACK DOWN ON ALL YOU XBOX JABRONIS
>
> What does this mean:
>
> "Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in
> the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely
> despise the game."
>
> No I didn't consider that and only someone who was fighting a losing
> battle would consider such a thing!
Would they? If I started a topic saying "all people who hate shenmue post here" do you not think that only people who hated shenmue would post there?
>That is the difference between calling a
> good game rubbish when it just isn't the choice for me.
>
No, thats the difference between someone who is scared to admit their real feelings and someone who isn't. It's crap and I'm not afraid to say it, where as if you think a game is crap you will light foot it around and say "oh well it's not really my thing" when really you think it's a complete load of bull, you're just too scared of other people's reactions.
> So what you are saying is "The game is rubbish because I say
> so!" That is what it looks like from me sitting here reading what
> you are typing.
Thats because your eyes seem to conviently miss all the parts where I explain why it's rubbish.
If you have played the Shenmue games as you say then you
> would know that they aren't RPG's but a mixture of
> Adventure/Action/Fighting/RPG all seamlessly blended into each other.
> Out of the genres above it is more of an adventure game than anything
> else!
Are you stupid or something? RPGs *ARE* a mixture of fighting, exploration and action you pillock.
>
> Take note on the "it may
> take a while to get into" instead of pretending to me that you
> have completed both yet
Deny it all you like, I have completed Shenmue, if you really want I will take a picture of the sodding box and send it to you to prove I own them.
>I remember you saying in the Xbox forum that
> you have only played at your friends house!
Well your memory is wrong isn't it. I know what I have and haven't done thankyou very much.
> http://www.gamerankings.com /htmlpages3/1114.asp
>
> "Go buy this game now. If you don't, you'll be missing one of....
What, so some jumped up little twit on a website tossing over it is supposed to make it suddenly become the best game ever?
The fact that Skies of Arcadia is quite clearly the best game on the Dreamcast, not to mention the best game ever made, leaves Shenmue in the mud.
> The game isn't rubbish,
> it might notr be your idea of fun but the game ITSELF is NOT rubbish.
> Why won't you get this into your head? Are you stupid? Clearly there
> is something wrong
The game is rubbish, for all the reasons I have previously stated, you are the one getting it the wrong way round.
You can love the game if you want, but you cannot deny that is very linear in it's path can you?
An RPG being so linear is a sign that it was poorly made, however you could still love it to death, but you cannot deny part of it was poorly implemented.
> because you can't put valid arguments together and
> you won't admit that you were wrong for calling the game rubbish!
Yes, you are so god damn stupid aren't you. Being boring, extremely linear, un-eventful etc. ARE valid reasons for it being a rubbish game, how many times for gods sake?
Why do I get the feeling
> that you are a GameCube owner and for that reason you hate me as an
> Xbox owner?
Maybe it's because Da GAMECUBE LAYS DA SMACK DOWN ON ALL YOU XBOX JABRONIS
>
> What does this mean:
>
> "Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in
> the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely
> despise the game."
>
> No I didn't consider that and only someone who was fighting a losing
> battle would consider such a thing!
Would they? If I started a topic saying "all people who hate shenmue post here" do you not think that only people who hated shenmue would post there?
>That is the difference between calling a
> good game rubbish when it just isn't the choice for me.
>
No, thats the difference between someone who is scared to admit their real feelings and someone who isn't. It's crap and I'm not afraid to say it, where as if you think a game is crap you will light foot it around and say "oh well it's not really my thing" when really you think it's a complete load of bull, you're just too scared of other people's reactions.
> So what you are saying is "The game is rubbish because I say
> so!" That is what it looks like from me sitting here reading what
> you are typing.
Thats because your eyes seem to conviently miss all the parts where I explain why it's rubbish.
If you have played the Shenmue games as you say then you
> would know that they aren't RPG's but a mixture of
> Adventure/Action/Fighting/RPG all seamlessly blended into each other.
> Out of the genres above it is more of an adventure game than anything
> else!
Are you stupid or something? RPGs *ARE* a mixture of fighting, exploration and action you pillock.
>
> Take note on the "it may
> take a while to get into" instead of pretending to me that you
> have completed both yet
Deny it all you like, I have completed Shenmue, if you really want I will take a picture of the sodding box and send it to you to prove I own them.
>I remember you saying in the Xbox forum that
> you have only played at your friends house!
Well your memory is wrong isn't it. I know what I have and haven't done thankyou very much.
> http://www.gamerankings.com /htmlpages3/1114.asp
>
> "Go buy this game now. If you don't, you'll be missing one of....
What, so some jumped up little twit on a website tossing over it is supposed to make it suddenly become the best game ever?
The fact that Skies of Arcadia is quite clearly the best game on the Dreamcast, not to mention the best game ever made, leaves Shenmue in the mud.
> The game isn't rubbish,
> it might notr be your idea of fun but the game ITSELF is NOT rubbish.
> Why won't you get this into your head? Are you stupid? Clearly there
> is something wrong
The game is rubbish, for all the reasons I have previously stated, you are the one getting it the wrong way round.
You can love the game if you want, but you cannot deny that is very linear in it's path can you?
An RPG being so linear is a sign that it was poorly made, however you could still love it to death, but you cannot deny part of it was poorly implemented.
> because you can't put valid arguments together and
> you won't admit that you were wrong for calling the game rubbish!
Yes, you are so god damn stupid aren't you. Being boring, extremely linear, un-eventful etc. ARE valid reasons for it being a rubbish game, how many times for gods sake?
DreamWarBird wrote:
> Let me just say that whoever said they played through (and completed)
> both Shenmue's and say its crap, needs there head screwed back on the
> right way.
>
> These games take hours to complete, yet you still play them to the
> end?
> Is it possible to play through both games which takes alot of hours of
> play and still say its crap?
So your saying, if you ever play through an entire game it's impossible for it be be crap?
I think you need your head screwed on, it's perfectly possible to play an entire game and come to the conclusion that it was rubbish.
> Let me just say that whoever said they played through (and completed)
> both Shenmue's and say its crap, needs there head screwed back on the
> right way.
>
> These games take hours to complete, yet you still play them to the
> end?
> Is it possible to play through both games which takes alot of hours of
> play and still say its crap?
So your saying, if you ever play through an entire game it's impossible for it be be crap?
I think you need your head screwed on, it's perfectly possible to play an entire game and come to the conclusion that it was rubbish.
Let me just say that whoever said they played through (and completed) both Shenmue's and say its crap, needs there head screwed back on the right way.
These games take hours to complete, yet you still play them to the end?
Is it possible to play through both games which takes alot of hours of play and still say its crap?
These games take hours to complete, yet you still play them to the end?
Is it possible to play through both games which takes alot of hours of play and still say its crap?
Perhaps maybe because I have a Dreamcast and I own the two greatest games ever created in my collection and that I aren't going to sit by whilst a muppet who *CLAIMS* to have completed both Shenmue games and then proceeds to call them utter rubbish! Why do I get the feeling that you are a GameCube owner and for that reason you hate me as an Xbox owner?
What does this mean:
"Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely despise the game."
No I didn't consider that and only someone who was fighting a losing battle would consider such a thing! If I saw a topic that was titled "What do you think of Mario games?", if I saw a topic like that I would go in and say that I don't like them because Mario 64 let me down and my expectations of Mario games have changed since the Super Nintendo. Have I called the game rubbish? No, they just aren't my idea of an enjoyable game. That is the difference between calling a good game rubbish when it just isn't the choice for me.
So what you are saying is "The game is rubbish because I say so!" That is what it looks like from me sitting here reading what you are typing. I can only see you typing in Cap-Locks to try and get your point over whilst trying to explain how boring the Shenmue games are to you. If you have played the Shenmue games as you say then you would know that they aren't RPG's but a mixture of Adventure/Action/Fighting/RPG all seamlessly blended into each other. Out of the genres above it is more of an adventure game than anything else!
I don't have a problem with you not enjoying the game but I certainly aren't going to sit back and let you call it rubbish! You say they aren't fun, they are boring and that they aren't entertaining in the least, yet why did so many people around the world rate this is one of the BEST games ever created? Did they find it rubbish? Did they think that it was one of the worst games ever created? No they didn't. I have found some comments about the game that you may want to consider before typing away like a blind monkey! Take note on the "it may take a while to get into" instead of pretending to me that you have completed both yet I remember you saying in the Xbox forum that you have only played at your friends house! So comments like this are attacthed to games like Blade, Disney Golf and Crime Wars?
(Remove all spaces)
http://www.gamerankings.com /htmlpages3/1114.asp
"Go buy this game now. If you don't, you'll be missing one of the greatest gaming experiences you can get your hands on. If you don't like adventure games, rent this and give it a couple of hours ... it may take a while to get into, but every second you spend is worth it."
http://dreamcast.ign.com /articles/164/164499p1.html
"However, let me ask you this question: What if Shenmue succeeds and continues all 16 chapters, with each chapter being of equal or better quality than the first chapter?
That's right... "they" will miss being part of video game history. Sad, isn't it?"
http://www.gamerankings.com/ itemrankings/itemcomments. asp?itemid=1114
Here are just a few comments made from the site from different users:
"I might come off like a Sega fanboy, but Shenmue is simply the greatest game ever. I don't know where to start."
"This is my favorite game of all time and beleave me i have played alot of games. It caputures the greatness of movies and blends magically with outstanding gameplay. This game kept me playing out of the interest of not knowing what will happen."
"OK. 1st is whoever gave this game a bad rating never played the game. They are lying to all the readers out there. This game is the best of its kind ever."
"This is positively the best game available for the Dreamcast. If more games like this had been produced, perhaps this underrated system wouldn't have died as soon as it did."
Yes there were negative reviews on the site despite the average rating of 90% but even the ones who didn't enjoy the game as much still gave it 7/10 or 8/10 and the ones who didn't have stated that they have only played the game at their friends house! The game isn't rubbish, it might notr be your idea of fun but the game ITSELF is NOT rubbish. Why won't you get this into your head? Are you stupid? Clearly there is something wrong because you can't put valid arguments together and you won't admit that you were wrong for calling the game rubbish!
What does this mean:
"Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely despise the game."
No I didn't consider that and only someone who was fighting a losing battle would consider such a thing! If I saw a topic that was titled "What do you think of Mario games?", if I saw a topic like that I would go in and say that I don't like them because Mario 64 let me down and my expectations of Mario games have changed since the Super Nintendo. Have I called the game rubbish? No, they just aren't my idea of an enjoyable game. That is the difference between calling a good game rubbish when it just isn't the choice for me.
So what you are saying is "The game is rubbish because I say so!" That is what it looks like from me sitting here reading what you are typing. I can only see you typing in Cap-Locks to try and get your point over whilst trying to explain how boring the Shenmue games are to you. If you have played the Shenmue games as you say then you would know that they aren't RPG's but a mixture of Adventure/Action/Fighting/RPG all seamlessly blended into each other. Out of the genres above it is more of an adventure game than anything else!
I don't have a problem with you not enjoying the game but I certainly aren't going to sit back and let you call it rubbish! You say they aren't fun, they are boring and that they aren't entertaining in the least, yet why did so many people around the world rate this is one of the BEST games ever created? Did they find it rubbish? Did they think that it was one of the worst games ever created? No they didn't. I have found some comments about the game that you may want to consider before typing away like a blind monkey! Take note on the "it may take a while to get into" instead of pretending to me that you have completed both yet I remember you saying in the Xbox forum that you have only played at your friends house! So comments like this are attacthed to games like Blade, Disney Golf and Crime Wars?
(Remove all spaces)
http://www.gamerankings.com /htmlpages3/1114.asp
"Go buy this game now. If you don't, you'll be missing one of the greatest gaming experiences you can get your hands on. If you don't like adventure games, rent this and give it a couple of hours ... it may take a while to get into, but every second you spend is worth it."
http://dreamcast.ign.com /articles/164/164499p1.html
"However, let me ask you this question: What if Shenmue succeeds and continues all 16 chapters, with each chapter being of equal or better quality than the first chapter?
That's right... "they" will miss being part of video game history. Sad, isn't it?"
http://www.gamerankings.com/ itemrankings/itemcomments. asp?itemid=1114
Here are just a few comments made from the site from different users:
"I might come off like a Sega fanboy, but Shenmue is simply the greatest game ever. I don't know where to start."
"This is my favorite game of all time and beleave me i have played alot of games. It caputures the greatness of movies and blends magically with outstanding gameplay. This game kept me playing out of the interest of not knowing what will happen."
"OK. 1st is whoever gave this game a bad rating never played the game. They are lying to all the readers out there. This game is the best of its kind ever."
"This is positively the best game available for the Dreamcast. If more games like this had been produced, perhaps this underrated system wouldn't have died as soon as it did."
Yes there were negative reviews on the site despite the average rating of 90% but even the ones who didn't enjoy the game as much still gave it 7/10 or 8/10 and the ones who didn't have stated that they have only played the game at their friends house! The game isn't rubbish, it might notr be your idea of fun but the game ITSELF is NOT rubbish. Why won't you get this into your head? Are you stupid? Clearly there is something wrong because you can't put valid arguments together and you won't admit that you were wrong for calling the game rubbish!
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> If you had to go and ask the same questions to the same people then
> you were the muppet and a thick one at that! Every person gives you a
> clue to the next event in the game and how you achieve that is by
> asking people (as you would in real life) questions and then following
> up on the evidence.
Your missing the point. He repeated the same phrase to everyone until you advanced a stage in the plot, it was pathetic. And if you knew exactly who to talk to, it only cut the game's length in half. Also, passers by never had a clue, there were basically about 10 main characters and one of them would always give youthe answer.
>
> You don't even notice how linear the game is because of the twists in
> the plot and going back to cover the evidence you have just
> formulated. Check this out for some opinions on the game and some
> VAILD arguments for and against the game:
Well evidently I have noticed how linear it is, it's blindly obvious. Plot twists? Where were those then? SHOCK he was chinese! SHOCK!! He's gone back to China!!! oo plot twist, Tom has gone back to America, big deal! He had no impact on the game anyway.
Valid? Christ you're dumb, these ARE valid arguments you idiot, and you've yet to come up with anything that would even remotely be considered as defense.
"The game is overwhelmingly linear"
"You don't notice it because of the plot twists"
Yeah, good one.
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> The only person who wasn't a big fan still enjoyed the game!
Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely despise the game, SonicRav for starters.
The
> reason why I am getting at you so much is because you called the game
> RUBBISH when clearly what you should have said is "the game isn't
> for me but it is still good",
But it isn't, it's crap. It's not even a case of a genre or style I just don't like. I love RPGs, and this is the most poorely made RPG I have ever played in my entire life. It's so incredibly badly made it's almost funny, if it wans't so bloody rubbish.
how does a rubbish game get the
> acclaim that Shsnmue did/does. You go and read reviews and peoples
> opinions and you won't find above a handful of replies that said the
> game wasn't their cup of tea.
It doesn't. 'Critically acclaimed' means jack. It means some critics somewhere love it because it's apprently 'visionary' and a 'masterpiece', but these people aren't even gamers. They just play games to analyse them.
Many criticaly acclaimed things flunk, and are absolutely loathed by the public.
>
> One more thing, you go and play Shenmues 1 + 2 through to the end and
> then come back and tell me that you aren't excited about Shenmue 3, in
> fact I challenge you to do that! I can guarentee that you will be
> ashamed for calling the game rubbish.
Well you've jsut lost, I've already played them through and I'm keeping as far aware from this third crime as possible.
Until then stop showing yourself
> up calling games which deserve the maximum amount of credit rubbish! I
> will tell you a game which is rubbish, Blade 1 on the PSONE! The
> Shenmues are modern day classics.
Classics of what? Not gaming thats for sure. They aren't fun, they aren't exciting, it's a game with pretty graphics and a storyline, but on the fun meter is very low. These should have ben films, not games.
Games that deserve the maxium amount of credit are decent games, games that are FUN.
Shenmue is simply not fun, I could get the same amount of enjoyment walking around London asking people where some clothes shop was. Games that immitate life are, basically, terrible. Everyday life isn't particulary fun is it? thats why we watch stuff on TV, play games, go bowling or whatever, I don't want to sit down and control a fictional character doing things I do everyday.
And I'm not showing myself up at all, I'm merely pointing out why Shenmue is such a terrible game.
Why do I get the feeling you wouldn't so determined about this if it wasn't on the XBox....hmm..
> If you had to go and ask the same questions to the same people then
> you were the muppet and a thick one at that! Every person gives you a
> clue to the next event in the game and how you achieve that is by
> asking people (as you would in real life) questions and then following
> up on the evidence.
Your missing the point. He repeated the same phrase to everyone until you advanced a stage in the plot, it was pathetic. And if you knew exactly who to talk to, it only cut the game's length in half. Also, passers by never had a clue, there were basically about 10 main characters and one of them would always give youthe answer.
>
> You don't even notice how linear the game is because of the twists in
> the plot and going back to cover the evidence you have just
> formulated. Check this out for some opinions on the game and some
> VAILD arguments for and against the game:
Well evidently I have noticed how linear it is, it's blindly obvious. Plot twists? Where were those then? SHOCK he was chinese! SHOCK!! He's gone back to China!!! oo plot twist, Tom has gone back to America, big deal! He had no impact on the game anyway.
Valid? Christ you're dumb, these ARE valid arguments you idiot, and you've yet to come up with anything that would even remotely be considered as defense.
"The game is overwhelmingly linear"
"You don't notice it because of the plot twists"
Yeah, good one.
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> The only person who wasn't a big fan still enjoyed the game!
Did you ever consider that only people who like Shenmue went in the Shenmue topic? I can find you plenty of people who absolutely despise the game, SonicRav for starters.
The
> reason why I am getting at you so much is because you called the game
> RUBBISH when clearly what you should have said is "the game isn't
> for me but it is still good",
But it isn't, it's crap. It's not even a case of a genre or style I just don't like. I love RPGs, and this is the most poorely made RPG I have ever played in my entire life. It's so incredibly badly made it's almost funny, if it wans't so bloody rubbish.
how does a rubbish game get the
> acclaim that Shsnmue did/does. You go and read reviews and peoples
> opinions and you won't find above a handful of replies that said the
> game wasn't their cup of tea.
It doesn't. 'Critically acclaimed' means jack. It means some critics somewhere love it because it's apprently 'visionary' and a 'masterpiece', but these people aren't even gamers. They just play games to analyse them.
Many criticaly acclaimed things flunk, and are absolutely loathed by the public.
>
> One more thing, you go and play Shenmues 1 + 2 through to the end and
> then come back and tell me that you aren't excited about Shenmue 3, in
> fact I challenge you to do that! I can guarentee that you will be
> ashamed for calling the game rubbish.
Well you've jsut lost, I've already played them through and I'm keeping as far aware from this third crime as possible.
Until then stop showing yourself
> up calling games which deserve the maximum amount of credit rubbish! I
> will tell you a game which is rubbish, Blade 1 on the PSONE! The
> Shenmues are modern day classics.
Classics of what? Not gaming thats for sure. They aren't fun, they aren't exciting, it's a game with pretty graphics and a storyline, but on the fun meter is very low. These should have ben films, not games.
Games that deserve the maxium amount of credit are decent games, games that are FUN.
Shenmue is simply not fun, I could get the same amount of enjoyment walking around London asking people where some clothes shop was. Games that immitate life are, basically, terrible. Everyday life isn't particulary fun is it? thats why we watch stuff on TV, play games, go bowling or whatever, I don't want to sit down and control a fictional character doing things I do everyday.
And I'm not showing myself up at all, I'm merely pointing out why Shenmue is such a terrible game.
Why do I get the feeling you wouldn't so determined about this if it wasn't on the XBox....hmm..
That was for WS by the way and bnot Tiltawhirl or anyone else who has replied to this topic about Shenmue's 1+2!
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