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Games are good.
Games are very good.
I could pretty much shift through my whole collection and say that I enjoyed every single one of them (apart from a few stinkers). You see, I only buy games I know I'm going to love. May it be through experiencing a previous instalment within the games series or just by making my way through a hell of a load of reviews, I only purchases games if I know my money is going to be well spent.
I own a GameCube, the console could be seen as the system to own if you want Multiplayer games. My GameCube collection is pretty healthy, it has it's single player games and it's multiplayer games. The thing is, the GameCube seems to be producing alot of games which rely on multiplayer modes alot. A perfect example of this is Super Monkey Ball.
I wouldn't say Super Monkey Ball was more of a single player game. If I played it through and through over and over again I would get pretty bored. Sure you need alot of skill to do Master mode (damn hard) and that in itself offers a massive challenge. But personally I would say Super Monkey Ball was a multiplayer game.
When I first played Super Monkey Ball I hated it, I saw nothing in it at all. The single player was good for a while but it didn't seem worth the £40 I paid. After unlocking mini games and playing them myself I realised Super Monkey Ball was a game for two players or more. So after getting bored by computer opponents I got my mates round. They started playing and I was shocked when they said they actually enjoyed it. We kept playing to beat each others scores and on the whole having a pretty decent time by punching each other in Monkey Fight.
After that the game shot up to a 10/10. Multiplayer was it's strong point and so it made it worth the money. If I hadn't of invited my mates around that day and got them into the game I would of taken it back or it would be gathering dust in the reject games pile along with South Park on the N64 and such other classics.
So what have I come here to preach about in this forum your probably wondering.
Well that little story was just there to prove to you that some games need Multiplayer to be a success. That time I was lucky my mates enjoyed the game otherwise I wouldn't be able to enjoy the game to the full extent. Normally I slot in a game CD, play the Multiplayer mode with a friend and he brands the game 'rubbish' as he is either no good at it or he just doesn't like it. There go's a fair share of my £40 out of the window.
So what do I encourage for the future...online multiplayer capabilities.
I'm not talking about your standard Unreal Tournament 32 man brawl. I'm talking about games which have multiplayer modes where you can have a lower number of players such as two or three. This all came to me today when I was looking around for a 2D beat-em-up to buy. I read that Marvel VS Capcom on the Playstation 2 was actually suppose to have an online mode where you could go and battle it out, two player, with your fighters. I really want to buy a 2D beat-em-up but I am afraid I'll hate it. Not because I hate the genre, but because I know I won't be able to fight against my mates in the area the game shines. They will be rubbish at it and straight away brand it a waste of money as I was too good for them in it. Monkey Ball lost it's charm after I scored 11 strikes in Monkey Bowling...(yes, I am boasting).
I remember reading once that a new version of Pro Evolution Soccer was to be online compatible with matches for two players and leagues etc. Sure that would be a great little extra but a Football game is fine in normal multiplayer for me. My mates are actually good at them.
What I'm saying here is there are some games you and your mates are good at and you can have a fairly even level of play in multiplayer. But some games your mates aren't good at and so you can't use the multiplayer on it because it gives off a negative effect when they lose all the time. It's such a shame when it's such a good game as well. That's why online gaming for the future should happen and fast. Even if you have got mates that are good at the games you like you can still play when they are not there. Just go online, find a person to play and you have the most intelligent AI you'll ever play against.
Some games like Super Monkey Ball and Pro Evolution Soccer are meant for fun with mates on the sofa and having a laugh. But some games, where alot of skill is involved, just aren't for that. Most the time you'll be beating your mates at the game because you've had practice and they haven't and you'll be switching another game. Also, if you like your geeky games who is going to play with you if they are not playing online (and not another geeky mate)?
If online gaming improves and we get it free and fast then I'll enjoy games more then ever. Until then I'll just keep having to try and impress my mates and faking my skill levels whilst they are playing against me.
Games are very good.
I could pretty much shift through my whole collection and say that I enjoyed every single one of them (apart from a few stinkers). You see, I only buy games I know I'm going to love. May it be through experiencing a previous instalment within the games series or just by making my way through a hell of a load of reviews, I only purchases games if I know my money is going to be well spent.
I own a GameCube, the console could be seen as the system to own if you want Multiplayer games. My GameCube collection is pretty healthy, it has it's single player games and it's multiplayer games. The thing is, the GameCube seems to be producing alot of games which rely on multiplayer modes alot. A perfect example of this is Super Monkey Ball.
I wouldn't say Super Monkey Ball was more of a single player game. If I played it through and through over and over again I would get pretty bored. Sure you need alot of skill to do Master mode (damn hard) and that in itself offers a massive challenge. But personally I would say Super Monkey Ball was a multiplayer game.
When I first played Super Monkey Ball I hated it, I saw nothing in it at all. The single player was good for a while but it didn't seem worth the £40 I paid. After unlocking mini games and playing them myself I realised Super Monkey Ball was a game for two players or more. So after getting bored by computer opponents I got my mates round. They started playing and I was shocked when they said they actually enjoyed it. We kept playing to beat each others scores and on the whole having a pretty decent time by punching each other in Monkey Fight.
After that the game shot up to a 10/10. Multiplayer was it's strong point and so it made it worth the money. If I hadn't of invited my mates around that day and got them into the game I would of taken it back or it would be gathering dust in the reject games pile along with South Park on the N64 and such other classics.
So what have I come here to preach about in this forum your probably wondering.
Well that little story was just there to prove to you that some games need Multiplayer to be a success. That time I was lucky my mates enjoyed the game otherwise I wouldn't be able to enjoy the game to the full extent. Normally I slot in a game CD, play the Multiplayer mode with a friend and he brands the game 'rubbish' as he is either no good at it or he just doesn't like it. There go's a fair share of my £40 out of the window.
So what do I encourage for the future...online multiplayer capabilities.
I'm not talking about your standard Unreal Tournament 32 man brawl. I'm talking about games which have multiplayer modes where you can have a lower number of players such as two or three. This all came to me today when I was looking around for a 2D beat-em-up to buy. I read that Marvel VS Capcom on the Playstation 2 was actually suppose to have an online mode where you could go and battle it out, two player, with your fighters. I really want to buy a 2D beat-em-up but I am afraid I'll hate it. Not because I hate the genre, but because I know I won't be able to fight against my mates in the area the game shines. They will be rubbish at it and straight away brand it a waste of money as I was too good for them in it. Monkey Ball lost it's charm after I scored 11 strikes in Monkey Bowling...(yes, I am boasting).
I remember reading once that a new version of Pro Evolution Soccer was to be online compatible with matches for two players and leagues etc. Sure that would be a great little extra but a Football game is fine in normal multiplayer for me. My mates are actually good at them.
What I'm saying here is there are some games you and your mates are good at and you can have a fairly even level of play in multiplayer. But some games your mates aren't good at and so you can't use the multiplayer on it because it gives off a negative effect when they lose all the time. It's such a shame when it's such a good game as well. That's why online gaming for the future should happen and fast. Even if you have got mates that are good at the games you like you can still play when they are not there. Just go online, find a person to play and you have the most intelligent AI you'll ever play against.
Some games like Super Monkey Ball and Pro Evolution Soccer are meant for fun with mates on the sofa and having a laugh. But some games, where alot of skill is involved, just aren't for that. Most the time you'll be beating your mates at the game because you've had practice and they haven't and you'll be switching another game. Also, if you like your geeky games who is going to play with you if they are not playing online (and not another geeky mate)?
If online gaming improves and we get it free and fast then I'll enjoy games more then ever. Until then I'll just keep having to try and impress my mates and faking my skill levels whilst they are playing against me.
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gamezfreak wrote:
> Only if you've got broadband mind...
Yep, got it and I might just buy myself a Xbox after I get a job etc.
Just been on the phone to the friend who recently got his Xbox and just listening to the music he's put on himself makes me want it. Damn i really want to beat someone up on the Capcom VS thingy. And frag in Unreal.
> Only if you've got broadband mind...
Yep, got it and I might just buy myself a Xbox after I get a job etc.
Just been on the phone to the friend who recently got his Xbox and just listening to the music he's put on himself makes me want it. Damn i really want to beat someone up on the Capcom VS thingy. And frag in Unreal.
Want good online service? Xbox Live is your answer my friend. Oh oops, You've already found that out. Seriously though, it looks set to be an excellent online service.
Only if you've got broadband mind...
Only if you've got broadband mind...
Rickoss wrote:
> Great game for 1-player, but only good on multiplayer if both you and
> your mates are good at it.
That's exactly what the topic was about and I was afraid of. That's exactly why the Xbox version would be great.
Weirdly the same mate I was thinking of training up to become good at this game has just bought a Xbox (which I would of liked for the online version of Capcom VS SNK 2 EO. So damn him for that.
I read your review as well as everyone else who reviewed the GameCube version of the game and I think I may get it as you say the single player mode is great.
Excellent, thanks.
> Great game for 1-player, but only good on multiplayer if both you and
> your mates are good at it.
That's exactly what the topic was about and I was afraid of. That's exactly why the Xbox version would be great.
Weirdly the same mate I was thinking of training up to become good at this game has just bought a Xbox (which I would of liked for the online version of Capcom VS SNK 2 EO. So damn him for that.
I read your review as well as everyone else who reviewed the GameCube version of the game and I think I may get it as you say the single player mode is great.
Excellent, thanks.
Capcom vs SNK 2 is a very decent game. Loads of characters to choose from, something like 44, and some secret characters to unlock. Admittedly GC-Ism is complete crap, but AC-ism'll have you trying to master moves for ages.
As for multiplayer, it isn't really it's strong point. You have to be a master to have a really competative match on it. You could always let your mates use GC-ism so they don't have to properly pull off moves, so that would make multiplayer better.
Great game for 1-player, but only good on multiplayer if both you and your mates are good at it.
Great post, BTW.
As for multiplayer, it isn't really it's strong point. You have to be a master to have a really competative match on it. You could always let your mates use GC-ism so they don't have to properly pull off moves, so that would make multiplayer better.
Great game for 1-player, but only good on multiplayer if both you and your mates are good at it.
Great post, BTW.
Monkey_With_Attitude wrote:
> Because it's got boobs?
>
> :-D
>
Erm.. no?
> Still, I'm annoyed that I have to have an Xbox to play Capcom VS SNK 2
> EO online. The future won't be like this, I could just get a console
> and be sure my favourite game will be online.
I don't get it though. The same game is on the PS2 (and a fine one at that), so why are Sony taking so long with going online? In Japan, there's no doubt it's already online, but what about us poor europeans who always get served last? We really do deserve the PS2 to go online right now, after all Sony have been going on about it from day one, which was 3 flaming years ago!
> Because it's got boobs?
>
> :-D
>
Erm.. no?
> Still, I'm annoyed that I have to have an Xbox to play Capcom VS SNK 2
> EO online. The future won't be like this, I could just get a console
> and be sure my favourite game will be online.
I don't get it though. The same game is on the PS2 (and a fine one at that), so why are Sony taking so long with going online? In Japan, there's no doubt it's already online, but what about us poor europeans who always get served last? We really do deserve the PS2 to go online right now, after all Sony have been going on about it from day one, which was 3 flaming years ago!
I would love to be able to play online its just that my interent connection just aint good enough.
Dr Z wrote:
> Still, if Dead or Alive 3 comes out for the PS2 I'll be one happy
> chappy!
Because it's got boobs?
:-D
The new versions of Xbox and PS2 (otherwise known as Xbox 2 and PS3, how original) are rumored to have the TV recroding feature you meantioned. I think it's more likely that Sony will do it but don't rule Microsoft out. Gates wants the Xbox to become a all in one entertainment machine for the lving room much like Sony do. Nintendo on the other hand are just looking at the games.
Still, I'm annoyed that I have to have an Xbox to play Capcom VS SNK 2 EO online. The future won't be like this, I could just get a console and be sure my favourite game will be online. Grrrrr for these companys taking so long about it.
Well done to Sega and the Dreamcast for launching it all but also not so well done for the fact it failed and everyones too scared to follow in their footsteps.
> Still, if Dead or Alive 3 comes out for the PS2 I'll be one happy
> chappy!
Because it's got boobs?
:-D
The new versions of Xbox and PS2 (otherwise known as Xbox 2 and PS3, how original) are rumored to have the TV recroding feature you meantioned. I think it's more likely that Sony will do it but don't rule Microsoft out. Gates wants the Xbox to become a all in one entertainment machine for the lving room much like Sony do. Nintendo on the other hand are just looking at the games.
Still, I'm annoyed that I have to have an Xbox to play Capcom VS SNK 2 EO online. The future won't be like this, I could just get a console and be sure my favourite game will be online. Grrrrr for these companys taking so long about it.
Well done to Sega and the Dreamcast for launching it all but also not so well done for the fact it failed and everyones too scared to follow in their footsteps.
The PS2's going online soon, but we just need more online games for it. Surely enough, you can expect Final Fantasy(whichever one) will go online for it, but what else is there?
I'm thinking of selling my PS2 to try and get the newer versions coming out. They're meant to have video recording abilities and since Sony are linked to TiVo, the new PS2's also meant to let you pause live telivision and do lots of other cool stuff.
Still, if Dead or Alive 3 comes out for the PS2 I'll be one happy chappy!
I'm thinking of selling my PS2 to try and get the newer versions coming out. They're meant to have video recording abilities and since Sony are linked to TiVo, the new PS2's also meant to let you pause live telivision and do lots of other cool stuff.
Still, if Dead or Alive 3 comes out for the PS2 I'll be one happy chappy!
My Dad just walked in and I complained to him.
It was either an iPod or Xbox for Christmas and even though I love my iPod I wish I asked for the Xbox now.
The only thing Xbox has got which I want is online play, it's what I used my Dreamcast for alot and it's what I want on my consoles in the future.
Even if I get the GameCube version I won't be able to play it online in the long run as it doesn't have the online mode on it. Grrrrrrrrr
Must. Buy. A. Xbox.
I suppsoe they are cheap...and I don't want that PS2 anymore.
It was either an iPod or Xbox for Christmas and even though I love my iPod I wish I asked for the Xbox now.
The only thing Xbox has got which I want is online play, it's what I used my Dreamcast for alot and it's what I want on my consoles in the future.
Even if I get the GameCube version I won't be able to play it online in the long run as it doesn't have the online mode on it. Grrrrrrrrr
Must. Buy. A. Xbox.
I suppsoe they are cheap...and I don't want that PS2 anymore.
Monkey_With_Attitude wrote:
> Thing is, I don't have an Xbox.
>
> That sucks.
That's just the thing that pees me right off. The Xbox itself isn't such a good console, yet it seems to compile all the best bits of gaming.
Why couldn't my beautiful PS2 get such beautiful games like Dead or Alive 3 and Halo? Or even such a thing as Xbox Live?!
WHY???
> Thing is, I don't have an Xbox.
>
> That sucks.
That's just the thing that pees me right off. The Xbox itself isn't such a good console, yet it seems to compile all the best bits of gaming.
Why couldn't my beautiful PS2 get such beautiful games like Dead or Alive 3 and Halo? Or even such a thing as Xbox Live?!
WHY???
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