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Tue 21/01/03 at 17:58
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Computer AI is a right funny old thing, well it can be at times, but most games at this time have proved that it isn't as hard to portray as many developers have thought in previous years. I can't really complain though, I don't have the foggiest idea how developers create AI like they did for Medal of Honour: Allied Assault. It was as if the people around you were real! Do they make some kind of electro-magnetic field around the enemy or something that once breached, makes them spot you? Oh, I dunno. But what I do know is that computer games aren't as they may seem.

There are times when I'm playing a game that I feel that the computer is intentionally being against me. Yes, I know that's the computer's job to give me a challenge and all, but isn't it supposed to be beatable in order to progress in a game? Well, these forces do not agree.

Playing on the superb Premier League equivalent on Pro Evolution Soccer 2, and doing mighty well if I may add, I was placed in a third division cup final against Rotterdam. They had been the hardest team (after mine) in the whole division, but I still managed to beat them in a league match, with quite some ease. But the tables seemed to have turned. This was the final of a cup I had worked very hard to reach and now I was only 90 minutes (well 10 minutes) away from true glory and worthy dominance and I thought it would be a breeze...that was until the macth begun. The refferee was blowing the whistle against me for tiny little shrugs all match and never found it necessary to blow for me when my men were blatantly being sliced off the ball.

This affected my game incredibly as I frequently resorted to verbal violence, getting more and more angry. Then, something came over me, as if holding me back from playing like I normally did when I won matches. After about 60 minutes, my men were running like they had just been unpleasantly violated whilst (oh what a surprise!) Rotterdam were running like the match had only just begun. They were pressuring me like crazy and I could barely cross the half way line towards them. Then, it all became too much. My anger rapidly filled its cup and it just so happened that Rotterdam were toying about with the ball at that exact same time, in my box. The circle button on my pad was red, which also symbolises anger, and my index finger suddenly felt a pleasing attraction towards it, making me foul the FOOL! The ref gave a penalty. I could not believe it. And they obviously had to score, which ended up as the winning goal just because there was something out there against me. I lost the final, didn't get the cup and was left in a state of disbelief.

I asked something, somewhere - "Why me?! Why now?!" - I was furious as well as sure that this was not just a case of the computer AI running in a hormonic state. The force was just too great for this.

Now, anyone who has played Mario Party 4 for the Cube will know how reasonably easy and fair it is. Playing against my little cousin and two other computer members, we decided to start a new game. For those who don't know, Mario Party 4 is like a computerised board game only that it has different settings and little mini challenges that earn you points. Now, I started off well, collecting loads of gold coins winning a couple mini games and eventually reaching the star, which for a first go isn't so bad. So now, I got the hang of the game I thought things would be much easier...well, I thought. I felt an instant chill in the room for a split second, ignored it and continued with the game. I rolled the dice and got a 1! Never had I got below 4! I moved to my one-step-away destination only to be flung all the way over to the other side of the board, and the star was only a couple more moves away! Things were starting to seem eerie, as if there was something against me.

Then followed the mini games, which I had previously mastered. It's not that they got harder as I progressed or anything, Mario Party 4 isn't that sort of game. I started messing up unusually. So much so that the annoying childish laugh of my little cousin still rings in my head in the silence of the night. I still enjoyed the game, but I would have enjoyed it more if the force was with me, not against me! Whyyyyy!

Every game gives you a challenge, but if you come across a challenge that seems totally impossible this means the forces are against you. But do not worry, this is not an everlasting effect, more of a "I'll runin your game for you when I feel like it" effect. It's happened to me countless times, but at least I can be happy that there are forces out there fighting FOR and not against me.

Thanks for reading and

...use the force!
Tue 21/01/03 at 17:58
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"Being Ignorant"
Posts: 2,574
Computer AI is a right funny old thing, well it can be at times, but most games at this time have proved that it isn't as hard to portray as many developers have thought in previous years. I can't really complain though, I don't have the foggiest idea how developers create AI like they did for Medal of Honour: Allied Assault. It was as if the people around you were real! Do they make some kind of electro-magnetic field around the enemy or something that once breached, makes them spot you? Oh, I dunno. But what I do know is that computer games aren't as they may seem.

There are times when I'm playing a game that I feel that the computer is intentionally being against me. Yes, I know that's the computer's job to give me a challenge and all, but isn't it supposed to be beatable in order to progress in a game? Well, these forces do not agree.

Playing on the superb Premier League equivalent on Pro Evolution Soccer 2, and doing mighty well if I may add, I was placed in a third division cup final against Rotterdam. They had been the hardest team (after mine) in the whole division, but I still managed to beat them in a league match, with quite some ease. But the tables seemed to have turned. This was the final of a cup I had worked very hard to reach and now I was only 90 minutes (well 10 minutes) away from true glory and worthy dominance and I thought it would be a breeze...that was until the macth begun. The refferee was blowing the whistle against me for tiny little shrugs all match and never found it necessary to blow for me when my men were blatantly being sliced off the ball.

This affected my game incredibly as I frequently resorted to verbal violence, getting more and more angry. Then, something came over me, as if holding me back from playing like I normally did when I won matches. After about 60 minutes, my men were running like they had just been unpleasantly violated whilst (oh what a surprise!) Rotterdam were running like the match had only just begun. They were pressuring me like crazy and I could barely cross the half way line towards them. Then, it all became too much. My anger rapidly filled its cup and it just so happened that Rotterdam were toying about with the ball at that exact same time, in my box. The circle button on my pad was red, which also symbolises anger, and my index finger suddenly felt a pleasing attraction towards it, making me foul the FOOL! The ref gave a penalty. I could not believe it. And they obviously had to score, which ended up as the winning goal just because there was something out there against me. I lost the final, didn't get the cup and was left in a state of disbelief.

I asked something, somewhere - "Why me?! Why now?!" - I was furious as well as sure that this was not just a case of the computer AI running in a hormonic state. The force was just too great for this.

Now, anyone who has played Mario Party 4 for the Cube will know how reasonably easy and fair it is. Playing against my little cousin and two other computer members, we decided to start a new game. For those who don't know, Mario Party 4 is like a computerised board game only that it has different settings and little mini challenges that earn you points. Now, I started off well, collecting loads of gold coins winning a couple mini games and eventually reaching the star, which for a first go isn't so bad. So now, I got the hang of the game I thought things would be much easier...well, I thought. I felt an instant chill in the room for a split second, ignored it and continued with the game. I rolled the dice and got a 1! Never had I got below 4! I moved to my one-step-away destination only to be flung all the way over to the other side of the board, and the star was only a couple more moves away! Things were starting to seem eerie, as if there was something against me.

Then followed the mini games, which I had previously mastered. It's not that they got harder as I progressed or anything, Mario Party 4 isn't that sort of game. I started messing up unusually. So much so that the annoying childish laugh of my little cousin still rings in my head in the silence of the night. I still enjoyed the game, but I would have enjoyed it more if the force was with me, not against me! Whyyyyy!

Every game gives you a challenge, but if you come across a challenge that seems totally impossible this means the forces are against you. But do not worry, this is not an everlasting effect, more of a "I'll runin your game for you when I feel like it" effect. It's happened to me countless times, but at least I can be happy that there are forces out there fighting FOR and not against me.

Thanks for reading and

...use the force!
Tue 21/01/03 at 18:01
Posts: 0
Algorithyms mate, its all in the algorithyms

Not sure but I think its a foriegn native dance type ????
Tue 21/01/03 at 18:03
Posts: 0
as long as it has nothing to do with Al Gore dancing we are in with a chance
Tue 21/01/03 at 21:49
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Posts: 15,681
"0wned since 1974"

Owned what?

A brewery?
A tree?
A horse?
Tue 21/01/03 at 22:19
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"Remember me?"
Posts: 6,124
A WILLY!
Tue 21/01/03 at 22:20
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Posts: 15,681
I once had a kids toy called a 'wooly willy'

LOL!
Tue 21/01/03 at 23:12
Regular
"Link to the Future"
Posts: 719
LOL!
Wed 22/01/03 at 00:44
Posts: 0
Edgy wrote:
> "0wned since 1974"
>
> Owned what?
>
> A brewery?
> A tree?
> A horse?

Gaming term mate thought id clear that up- a little like in rap Bad is good in gaming terms like gh3y and l337 mean very good and 0wned is a bit like being wiped off the board and is often taken as sarcasm
Wed 22/01/03 at 09:52
Regular
Posts: 760
I know what you mean. I call this phenomenon "computer law", when no matter what you do, no matter how much you've mastered the game, you just know that the AI has it in for you.
Wed 22/01/03 at 13:59
Regular
Posts: 3,182
Finals in football games are always like this. Cruise through the rounds and then here comes the Final - and suddenly you're facing a superhuman team made up of 10 Maradonas & Shay Given on a good day.

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