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Sun 20/01/02 at 18:00
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Pirate gaming and downloading roms of website is rising all the time. Why shell out £30+ for a game when I can spend a £10 or even nothing what so ever.

Seems a reasonable argument does it not. I myself admit to using roms plentifully. But what happens when it goes too far, what happens when 50%+ gamers start doing this what happens when it ruins the game industry altogether.

Lets take a look into my crystal ball.

All the major game comopanies, Sony,Nintendo,Microsoft etc. go bust. They can no longer afford to bring out new and exciting games [except in the case of Sony who never could].
Gmaers all around the world will mourn at the fact there will be no more Zeldas, Final Fantasies, some might even mourn for Pokemon [ God have mercy on their souls].

Not a very pleasant thought is it. We'll probably never really appreciate it till it's gone. We all no it can happen. The down fall of the Amiga was due to eveyone copying each others games. The only happy people will be the people who sold all the pirate games with their pockets full of cash.

So I urge you, stop while we still have time, befor we take it too far.

P.S. gbxemu.com has great gba roms for all interested.
Sun 20/01/02 at 22:36
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good in some bad in otherss (that did not help)
Sun 20/01/02 at 21:36
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Snes and Nes games can no longer be bought, rarely first hand anyway, so why shouldn't they be downloaded?

GBA, N64 etc...
Is understandably shady as it is direct piracy and I wouldn't do that.

I did download Pokemon Red when it was first released, but I actually bought the game about a week later (wanted to be able to trade and battle) so that couldn't have been so bad! :-)
Sun 20/01/02 at 21:18
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Well, cookie, my point was that if you have an old ROM online no possible damage can be done to developers. If you have new games online, then some gamers WILL just download them for free, and make the companies lose money

Sonic
Sun 20/01/02 at 21:16
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in my opinion new roms should not be allowed because they harm developers, but if your talking about a 5 year or older rom then they should be made legal as there is probably no more money to be made from these titiles.
Sun 20/01/02 at 21:06
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===SONICRAV---> wrote:
> Simply put:

Pirating is bad.

ROMS are good, so long as they are for games
> that are no longer on sale. Thus, they do not lose anyone money, but give the
> gamer a chance to play old clasics.

Sonic

I don't know about that, i downloaded an f-zero maximum velocity rom to see if it was worth buying the game, after playing the rom, i did buy the game, no harm done.
Sun 20/01/02 at 20:57
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Simply put:

Pirating is bad.

ROMS are good, so long as they are for games that are no longer on sale. Thus, they do not lose anyone money, but give the gamer a chance to play old clasics.

Sonic
Sun 20/01/02 at 19:51
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That's why you should visit theunderdogs.org instead, plenty of legal old gaming there and 'covers' of old 8 and 16 bit classics for the PC.

Most of it is abandonware, which is a full product where the licence has been given up or expired. Great fun and thousands of titles.

Piracy would more likely mean companies like Special Reserve go out of business before large software companies. Piracy on the internet, via newsgroups mainly, is a big problem but not affecting too much of the industry at the moment. ROMS are mostly for older consoles and therefore only affect companies that might want to release retro compilations, although these are never really any good as they never seem to put the right games on the discs...
Sun 20/01/02 at 19:21
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Resevilfan wrote:
> I can't see any harm in people downloading roms for some of these old consoles,
> The games are out of circulation and NOT FOR SALE but publishers are still
> against it.

Of course they're against it! Most publishers will port games to handhelds like Game Boy Advance!
Sun 20/01/02 at 18:49
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I can't see any harm in people downloading roms for some of these old consoles, The games are out of circulation and NOT FOR SALE but publishers are still against it. As for pirating I have little to do with it and am one of the very few who never got my playstation chipped, but what annoyed me most of all is how people could get away with it so easily and other people had to pay top price for a game that these cheap gets were getting for next to nothing.

The big Pirate outbreak started with the arrival of CDs, It's a breeze to copy these but game developers are a bit more aware about pirating issues these days and it is increasingy difficult :-)
Sun 20/01/02 at 18:46
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genie_destroyer wrote:
> But it's not just old games that are available as ROMS.

N64, GBA even PS2
> games are now available asroms.

Downloading old ROMS are fine and I have
> nothing against that either

You cannot download roms, but ISO files, which is practically an 'image' of the game, which can be burnt to CD. Roms are for use with emulators, not consoles.

CE.

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