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Tue 15/01/02 at 17:49
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Why are all our dial up ISP's so crap. I'm on BT internet and there so called anytime (more like sometime) it takes ages to connect and when your on a download it cuts after 30mins sometimes.

AOL is probably the best with no cut off but then you have to use there software which then takes your PC hostage and only a re-format will ever get rid of it.

I think it's about time they pushed broadband and reduced the cost (£40 a month is to much BT) i also think the cable company's should extend there coverage.

The console makers are all talking about online gaming but it's not gunna be possible with 56k access which has it's limits.

Maybe the console makers should set up a gaming broadband service of some sort that can be avalible to everyone.

There always telling us how great broadband is but there not pushing it so that it's in the reach of everyone.

Maybe one day we all we have broadband connections but it's still years away unless someone does something about it.
Wed 16/01/02 at 11:21
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"Profit of Doom"
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I'm using BT Internet at the moment, but it's dire. So, we're moving over to Telewest where I will upgrade and go broadband :)
Wed 16/01/02 at 11:15
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"not dead"
Posts: 11,145
FatButcher wrote:

Basically, they are
> holding everyone to ranson, being fined for doing it and still making
> money.


So they should hand over everything free of charge, even though they've spent millions providing and maintaining it?

And other companies should be able to use space for racks in their buildings free of charge?

The trouble is we all want something for nothing.

You want a better service, you pay for it. It's the way of the world.
Wed 16/01/02 at 11:10
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"Tag as above"
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Tyla wrote:
Unfortunately thanks to BT and the "local Loop", BT have
> delayed the progress of BB in the UK, they have to release access to the Local
> loop to external comapnies by opening up their Gold Rooms to potential BB
> suppliers. They have been slapped for this and are being fined for everyday they
> prevent opening it up, but the down side is the cost, BT charge the companies
> for the use of the Local loop and the Rooms and Hardware so to absord this cost,
> the end user has to pay silly ammounts for BB access...

Things will catch up
> eventually, but the UK is still isted about 13th in the world in the terms of
> BB, even Ireland and Portugal have better BB access than we do...


Basically, they are holding everyone to ranson, being fined for doing it and still making money.

I knew I should have bought some shares in BT
Wed 16/01/02 at 10:58
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"l33t cs50r"
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bars-tard wrote:
> I think it's about time they pushed broadband and reduced the cost (£40 a month is to much BT) i also think the cable company's should extend there coverage.

There's a distinct lack of cable companies in the UK... NTL are on hte verge of bankrupcy (23million in debt) and all the other's are local to certain areas...

>Maybe the console makers should set up a gaming broadband service of some sort that can be avalible to everyone.

A-ha - Sony are in the process of securing this in the UK and running trails in Manchester I beleive. Rumor has it too that NTL may be bought out by either AOL/Time Warner or Microsoft?

>There always telling us how great broadband is but there not pushing it so that it's in the reach of everyone.

Unfortunately thanks to BT and the "local Loop", BT have delayed the progress of BB in the UK, they have to release access to the Local loop to external comapnies by opening up their Gold Rooms to potential BB suppliers. They have been slapped for this and are being fined for everyday they prevent opening it up, but the down side is the cost, BT charge the companies for the use of the Local loop and the Rooms and Hardware so to absord this cost, the end user has to pay silly ammounts for BB access...

Things will catch up eventually, but the UK is still isted about 13th in the world in the terms of BB, even Ireland and Portugal have better BB access than we do...
Wed 16/01/02 at 10:40
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Does anyone know if they sorted out the Broadband problem they had in the states?
Wed 16/01/02 at 00:02
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"That's right!"
Posts: 10,645
I use Blue Yonder for my cable connection, have no problems
Tue 15/01/02 at 23:22
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"Tag as above"
Posts: 513
BT are charging to much for ISDN seeing as its old tech, theres some people that could use it as they cant get ASDL or Cable.

Satalite isn't that great, it has bad lag times and isn't all that cheap as you have to use a phone line aswell unless you want to spend loads on a two way dish system.
Tue 15/01/02 at 23:19
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"maximum homerdrive"
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satellite connections seem a good idea but aren't practical the hardware to send and recieve from a dish is very exspensive and BT are setting up a satellite connection soon for buisness use and it's £100 a month LMAO

i think cable is the way to go providing they don't overload it like they have with 56k access.

ADSL is nice as you can still use your phone but cable normaly give you 2 lines anyway at no extra cost. i think bt are charging to much for broadband compared to cable providers at the moment.
Tue 15/01/02 at 23:15
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"MildlyAmusing.co.uk"
Posts: 5,029
I'm on BTinternet surftime (After six and weekends). Its actually quite fast, and is easier to dial up to than it used to be.
Maybe its because everyone has moved to Anytime. BT tried to get me to move by sending a letter saying its only something like £2 more for Anytime. I'm not budging though, from what I've heard of anytime.
I'll be the last person on Surftime, and they'll have to force me to move.
Tue 15/01/02 at 22:59
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Im on NTL's 512k cable modem, they screwed up so I'm only paying for the 64k :D

£40 gets me, a phone line, cable TV with all the channels except the sport and movie channels and 512k modem.

Ha ha ha (until they twig)

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