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Sat 12/01/02 at 11:57
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I've noticed that with the Royal Rumble coming up on Box Office, none of you are buying it supposedly because the WWF product has been poor as of late.

I disagree, and have said why. I will explain again if you want me to.

But my question to you is, why?

Why do you think the WWF product has been poor as of late?
Sun 13/01/02 at 23:45
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"That's right!"
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Y2J is a joke as the WWF champ, he's lowering the title every time he comes out with it (through no fault of his own)

What was the point in giving him the title if he doesn't do anything? He almost jobbed to Edge last week! I couldn't believe it!

And I too won't be ordering the Rumble, even though after Wrestlemania, it's my favourite PPV. I don't want Sky putting all PPVs on Box Office
Sun 13/01/02 at 22:31
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"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
You know, I've been watching a lot of PPVs from around 1997-99. And although it was still the Attitude era, I've noticed that today's WWF is just so much better.

Compare WrestleMania 17 with WrestleMania 15. 17 was a great event, maybe the best of the year. 15 was okay, in my view. The main event was good, but otherwise it offered nothing special.

At the moment I'm fine with WWF. Scotty's getting some decent matches, the Royal Rumble's looking great and HHH is back.

I guess I'm not just as fussy as you people. ;D
Sun 13/01/02 at 16:39
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"Sally On Weekdays!"
Posts: 378
Ice Blaster wrote:
> Salevaa wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> AfroJoe wrote:
> Ric Flair is a
> terrible actor and I've
> said this before,
> Vince and Ric should
>
> just keep out of action and
> do what they are meant to
> be doing and
> that is
> running the
> WWF.

Very true, Ric and Vince is
>
> something I'm not looking forward
> to.

Being a long-time WWF fan, this
> is one I am looking foward to, as I have
> been watching him from when he
> won the WWF Title at RR 92, up to the point where
> he had a "heart
> attack" in the ring at WCW Nitro in 1999. My dad is
> really looking
> foward to this, as he prefers the older stuff.

"But what
> about the
> real wrestlers?? The real matches??"

The bottom line is - WWF
> used
> to be better before this new "WWF attitude" was brought in and
>
> Vince Russo took over script writing, around mid-1997. 1996 is in my
> opinion,
> the best year the WWF has ever seen and now, it is getting worse
> with each
> passing year. Now, I find myself hardly watching it, because all
> it offers me is
> utter boredom. Many of you won't know what I'm talking
> about. With all due
> respect intended, a lot of you started watching WWF in
> 1999/00 and probably
> think that the WWF has always been like this - it
> hasn't. There was a time
> before Tables, Ladders and Chairs were not only
> implements, but the order of the
> day.

Good man, I think I have found
> enough people to disagree with Mouldy cheese's points.

MC is a good mate of mine, so I hope he isn't too hurt.
Sun 13/01/02 at 16:11
Regular
"Back in black"
Posts: 5,486
Salevaa wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> AfroJoe wrote:
> Ric Flair is a terrible actor and I've
> said this before,
> Vince and Ric should
> just keep out of action and
> do what they are meant to
> be doing and that is
> running the
> WWF.

Very true, Ric and Vince is
> something I'm not looking forward
> to.

Being a long-time WWF fan, this is one I am looking foward to, as I have
> been watching him from when he won the WWF Title at RR 92, up to the point where
> he had a "heart attack" in the ring at WCW Nitro in 1999. My dad is
> really looking foward to this, as he prefers the older stuff.

"But what
> about the real wrestlers?? The real matches??"

The bottom line is - WWF
> used to be better before this new "WWF attitude" was brought in and
> Vince Russo took over script writing, around mid-1997. 1996 is in my opinion,
> the best year the WWF has ever seen and now, it is getting worse with each
> passing year. Now, I find myself hardly watching it, because all it offers me is
> utter boredom. Many of you won't know what I'm talking about. With all due
> respect intended, a lot of you started watching WWF in 1999/00 and probably
> think that the WWF has always been like this - it hasn't. There was a time
> before Tables, Ladders and Chairs were not only implements, but the order of the
> day.

Good man, I think I have found enough people to disagree with Mouldy cheese's points.
Sun 13/01/02 at 15:59
Regular
"Sally On Weekdays!"
Posts: 378
Ant wrote:
> AfroJoe wrote:
> Ric Flair is a terrible actor and I've said this before,
> Vince and Ric should
> just keep out of action and do what they are meant to
> be doing and that is
> running the WWF.

Very true, Ric and Vince is
> something I'm not looking forward to.

Being a long-time WWF fan, this is one I am looking foward to, as I have been watching him from when he won the WWF Title at RR 92, up to the point where he had a "heart attack" in the ring at WCW Nitro in 1999. My dad is really looking foward to this, as he prefers the older stuff.

"But what about the real wrestlers?? The real matches??"

The bottom line is - WWF used to be better before this new "WWF attitude" was brought in and Vince Russo took over script writing, around mid-1997. 1996 is in my opinion, the best year the WWF has ever seen and now, it is getting worse with each passing year. Now, I find myself hardly watching it, because all it offers me is utter boredom. Many of you won't know what I'm talking about. With all due respect intended, a lot of you started watching WWF in 1999/00 and probably think that the WWF has always been like this - it hasn't. There was a time before Tables, Ladders and Chairs were not only implements, but the order of the day.
Sun 13/01/02 at 15:52
Regular
"I am Bumf Ucked"
Posts: 3,669
OK. Here is the reason the WWF product has been poor recently.

No mid carders. They got rid of the allience, who made up the mid card.

That, quite simply, is it.
Sun 13/01/02 at 07:27
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"Guess who..."
Posts: 1,134
Ant wrote:
> I've already explained why I don't think Sky really can put all the other PPVs
> on Box Office, so I won't take that as an answer. {:)

I like Jericho as
> Undisputed Champ, he's a great wrestler and cuts some top promos. But I don't
> think WWF are using him properly. They can't even let him beat Rikishi.

So, I
> will be interested to see if he beats Rock once again.

On the subject of
> wrestlers that Cheese brought up-Guerrero got himself fired, Malenko has
> basically retired and wouldn't be in it anyway, Benoit is injured and HHH is
> back.

Okay, here's what interests me about WWF at the moment: Obviously, my
> favourite is finally getting some good matches so that's cheered me up, Edge has
> been impressive as of late, it looks like he's going to main event status, RVD
> as always is in top form, HHH is back and looking great, Test is finally getting
> a push, the tag team title situation is interesting, and of course the Royal
> Rumble is always brilliant.

I think they're the reasons I'm getting the
> Rumble.

If Jericho beats The Rock at the Royal Rumble it will be a shame to Rock's identity. In my opinion then, he'd have to drop his ego completely, which is why I hope The Rock wins.
Sat 12/01/02 at 21:26
Regular
"sdomehtongng"
Posts: 23,695
Mr Immunity has been a right pain in the backside recently!
Sat 12/01/02 at 21:23
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
I've already explained why I don't think Sky really can put all the other PPVs on Box Office, so I won't take that as an answer. {:)

I like Jericho as Undisputed Champ, he's a great wrestler and cuts some top promos. But I don't think WWF are using him properly. They can't even let him beat Rikishi.

So, I will be interested to see if he beats Rock once again.

On the subject of wrestlers that Cheese brought up-Guerrero got himself fired, Malenko has basically retired and wouldn't be in it anyway, Benoit is injured and HHH is back.

Okay, here's what interests me about WWF at the moment: Obviously, my favourite is finally getting some good matches so that's cheered me up, Edge has been impressive as of late, it looks like he's going to main event status, RVD as always is in top form, HHH is back and looking great, Test is finally getting a push, the tag team title situation is interesting, and of course the Royal Rumble is always brilliant.

I think they're the reasons I'm getting the Rumble.
Sat 12/01/02 at 19:41
Regular
"Back in black"
Posts: 5,486
Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> No Benoit, no HHH, no Malenko, no Guerrero, and very little Storm.

In other
> words, a complete deficiency of proper wrestlers.

That's complete boll.. HHH is back:D

Jericho, loose that title, leave it to the big boys who can cut promo's, entertain and wake you up- yes Wrestlemania's main event should be Rock Vs Austin Vs HHH (the match WWF fans have been waiting for since 1999)!

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