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Thu 10/01/02 at 22:58
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SEGA, Microsoft and to some extent Sony have been quick to jump on the internet bandwagon, all companies agree it is the future of gaming with both the SEGA Dreamcast and Microsoft X-box being internet compatible out of the box. So then why is it that Nintendo, a leading computer game company is so apprehensive about this new idea?

The truth is to Nintendo the use of the Internet is not a new idea, the game company used the idea as far back as the first Nintendo the NES which involved transferring Bank details. The SNES included a similar system and the Gameboy Colour, as we all know implemented and online mobile phone link used mainly for Pokémon Crystal. The N64’s doomed 64DD drive also used something called Rad-net, which enabled gaming to occur between people living in close proximity. So Nintendo are probably just as experienced as Microsoft in this field so why are the Big N so apprehensive about this “new” idea.

We all know how Nintendo are unsure about the way industry progresses hardware wise, their reluctance to leap to CD base format was one, and the failure of other systems may be the cause of their decision to stick with carts. The new strategy is a tried and tested watch and wait strategy, Modems are all avalible but a Nintendo online or any online Nintendo games are being kept well away in secret. Nintendo will monitor to see if the X-box and PS2 will do significantly well using this idea, if this is the case Nintendo may commit to the idea. This doesn’t mean there won’t be any internet gaming on your Gamecube for the first few years, SEGA’s Phantasy Star Online Version 2 will appear on the Gamecube using SEGA’s own server and many other companies may follow suit.

Is Nintendo’s worry that the Internet won’t succeed a just one? I think so; it never took off amazingly on the Dreamcast and SEGA never made a significant profit. Nintendo have never been able to make a significant gain via the Internet either and so unless Microsoft and Sony do any better Nintendo won’t go head first into it. The casual gamer may also not be attracted by the prospect neither will may of you I suspect, when I got my Dreamcast no internet leads came with it, I didn’t mind I never intended to use the internet it costs money and if I want to play against people I’ll invite friends round. I believe this is the general feel towards the net.

This isn’t to say Nintendo won’t support the Internet, a game entitle Marionette (Could it be Mario-net) is in development which could be an Internet based game. Be it Internet or not Nintendo will have some online games in production and I wouldn’t be surprised if either Pikachu or Mario were amongst the first internet based games, we all know how Nintendo like trading Pokémon via a link lead surly the Internet opens much more opportunity for such an idea. RARE are also sure to use the Internet to full effect in titles such as Perfect Dark and online multiplayer bash would be great for a game such as that.

So the Internet may be in the forefront of Sony and Microsoft’s mind but is Nintendo’s cautious approach wise? After reading this what do you think would be the best move for any of the next generation console makers?

Here’s to the Future.

Dringo.
Fri 11/01/02 at 15:08
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I also prefer to play real players than internet ones, but how else do you suppose I shoot Grix in the head? ;-)

Sometimes it's best to play at home, other times, it's best online.
Sometimes you can play Splitscreen AND online at the same time...

It's an optioned I'd like to have.
Fri 11/01/02 at 14:11
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Posts: 11,145
mrfunnyman wrote:
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... cough cough splutter, yawn. Sorry
> guys drifted off there. you guys evidently don't get out of the house much, a
> good start would be to explore the world outside of the house, even if at the
> moment your only ready to do it through a modem. your saying consoles shouldn't
> have internet. you'll find that lifes a lot more colourful if you pull your head
> out of your anus.

Why do I need internet on a console? I got it on my PC.

I want to play games on my console.

On the whole it's single player games that I play most, and I have friends and family to play multiplayer games with.

Playing games over the internet is something I don't find fun.
Fri 11/01/02 at 14:01
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Heh, joker.
Fri 11/01/02 at 13:54
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... cough cough splutter, yawn. Sorry guys drifted off there. you guys evidently don't get out of the house much, a good start would be to explore the world outside of the house, even if at the moment your only ready to do it through a modem. your saying consoles shouldn't have internet. you'll find that lifes a lot more colourful if you pull your head out of your anus.
Fri 11/01/02 at 13:49
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Miyamoto has already stated that Marionette is a game that has smething to do with puppets, and not a code name for Nintendo's online network.

I'm not fussed by online gaming, I've always enjoyed the thrill of a single player quest, and when it comes to multiplayer I love having someone there to mock when I beat them.

The future of massively multiplayer games should be in the arcades, not in our homes.
Fri 11/01/02 at 13:19
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Profit is definitely not a concern, for Sony at least. All the ISP/server stuff is done by other companies. You need to find your own ISP, and the servers to play these games will just appear, as they do. All Sony needs to do is SELL modems, making profit.

I think Nintendo are unwise in their Internet strategy (or lack thereof). Although it may not be the way forward, the PUBLIC think it is and it's virtually a lossless situation. If it doesn't take off, no sweat. They won't have layed out that much for the venture.

It seems that Nintendo are far too interested in profit these days. The Sony philosophy (believe it or not) is actually all about the games. They have invested billions in SCEE and have made some ventures that would almost certainly make them a loss. They are also probably one of the most friendly and helpful to developers, new and old.
Fri 11/01/02 at 13:08
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I think that Nintendo aren't convinced that it's profitable to go online but are keeping their options open.

I'm hoping that I'll be able to play Perfect Dark against people around the world and possibly have big 30 player races in F-Zero...
Thu 10/01/02 at 23:10
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i think it is a wise move by nintendo, i perosnally have no intention of getting any ps2 or xbox internet, it's gonna be hard work trying to convince me, the inital price will probably be out rageous.
Thu 10/01/02 at 23:01
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I think Nintendo realise the fact that online-gaming is something NO-ONE can promise yet, and unlike Sony/Sega/Microsoft, they're not going to make promises they have no guarentee than can live up to.
Thu 10/01/02 at 22:58
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Posts: 18,185
SEGA, Microsoft and to some extent Sony have been quick to jump on the internet bandwagon, all companies agree it is the future of gaming with both the SEGA Dreamcast and Microsoft X-box being internet compatible out of the box. So then why is it that Nintendo, a leading computer game company is so apprehensive about this new idea?

The truth is to Nintendo the use of the Internet is not a new idea, the game company used the idea as far back as the first Nintendo the NES which involved transferring Bank details. The SNES included a similar system and the Gameboy Colour, as we all know implemented and online mobile phone link used mainly for Pokémon Crystal. The N64’s doomed 64DD drive also used something called Rad-net, which enabled gaming to occur between people living in close proximity. So Nintendo are probably just as experienced as Microsoft in this field so why are the Big N so apprehensive about this “new” idea.

We all know how Nintendo are unsure about the way industry progresses hardware wise, their reluctance to leap to CD base format was one, and the failure of other systems may be the cause of their decision to stick with carts. The new strategy is a tried and tested watch and wait strategy, Modems are all avalible but a Nintendo online or any online Nintendo games are being kept well away in secret. Nintendo will monitor to see if the X-box and PS2 will do significantly well using this idea, if this is the case Nintendo may commit to the idea. This doesn’t mean there won’t be any internet gaming on your Gamecube for the first few years, SEGA’s Phantasy Star Online Version 2 will appear on the Gamecube using SEGA’s own server and many other companies may follow suit.

Is Nintendo’s worry that the Internet won’t succeed a just one? I think so; it never took off amazingly on the Dreamcast and SEGA never made a significant profit. Nintendo have never been able to make a significant gain via the Internet either and so unless Microsoft and Sony do any better Nintendo won’t go head first into it. The casual gamer may also not be attracted by the prospect neither will may of you I suspect, when I got my Dreamcast no internet leads came with it, I didn’t mind I never intended to use the internet it costs money and if I want to play against people I’ll invite friends round. I believe this is the general feel towards the net.

This isn’t to say Nintendo won’t support the Internet, a game entitle Marionette (Could it be Mario-net) is in development which could be an Internet based game. Be it Internet or not Nintendo will have some online games in production and I wouldn’t be surprised if either Pikachu or Mario were amongst the first internet based games, we all know how Nintendo like trading Pokémon via a link lead surly the Internet opens much more opportunity for such an idea. RARE are also sure to use the Internet to full effect in titles such as Perfect Dark and online multiplayer bash would be great for a game such as that.

So the Internet may be in the forefront of Sony and Microsoft’s mind but is Nintendo’s cautious approach wise? After reading this what do you think would be the best move for any of the next generation console makers?

Here’s to the Future.

Dringo.

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