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Tue 08/01/02 at 17:10
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How can people continually point out just one game when they are reffering to the best game ever? We need to look at the evidence and realise that it is spread over seven different catagories.
Hopefully, this will clear it up, but this is only my opinion.

The best Action/platformer:

Super Mario World (super nintendo)

This has been chosen because it is a classic. It had all the neccasary components which make a great game, and it is still liked today. The graphics were great, and at the time, were the best graphics seen up until then. The gameplay was second to none. It was challenging, addictive, very long, and revolutionary. It also spawned many rip-offs seen even today(Crash Bandicoot and Croc are notable examples).

The best RPG:

Final Fantasy 7 (PSOne)

It was a toss up between this and Zelda 3 on the Snes, and Zelda 64 on the N64. What you will notice most about Final Fantasy is the graphics. This, I think, is the most intruiging aspect of FF, and is consistently done to great levels everytime a new one is released. Another main feature of the game is its size, each game will take you literally weeks of playing to complete, no matter how long you play it for. Up until know, nothing has came near it in terms of gameplay, and has became the benchmark for future RPG's.

The best Sport: Championship Manager series (PC)

This was very hard to say because none have stood out as clear winners. However, the title must got to CM because it it so popular. The addictiveness of this game is clear for everyone to see. No matter how old you are, yu will find it hard to play this, and then not want to play it again. Each time a new one has come out aswell, it has improved either by the sound, graphics, or its sheer size.

The best Flight simulator: Microsoft Flight Simulator (PC)

There was never really any doubt with this one. It is a really great game with a big fanbase...although it has grabbed the headlines recently for the wrong reasons. This will remain a classic with many people because it best depicts flying an aeroplane in real life. The graphics and amount of different planes help it become the great game it is today.

The best Real-time strategy: Command & Conquer (PC)

If Civilization had been a RTS in its earler days, I would have chose that. But as it stands, C&C is a clear winner. I have been playing that many times, and forgot that it has reached 3'o'clock in the morning. This is either because there was a level which was really hard, or I just couldn't get enough of a great game. This game really makes you think, and this is one of its strong points and why it is so succesful.

The best Racing game: Gran Turismo (PSOne)

What can you say about this game what hasn't been said already? It was simply a masterpiece when it came out, and is everyones favourite today. It had everything, and a little bit extra. It is so good because it is so revolutionary, and hasn't been surpassed,even with the technilogical advancements in consoles, Gamecube and X-box included. I don't mean that it has the best graphics now, that would be unfair, but at the time, nothing even came close to it.

So there they are, the truely greatest games ever.
I would have included the Powerpuff girls for $lik, but Doughnut Monster wouldn't have been happy ;)
Tue 08/01/02 at 18:20
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read my topic named perfection recently ?
Tue 08/01/02 at 18:03
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slave2games wrote:

"However, it was Final Fantasy what redefined the RPG."

The wheel was a great invention. Would you go around with a rock chipped wheel on your car today?

We make improvements so life gets better, although FF did, in some ways, revolutionise the RPG, Skies of Arcadia improves on it immensely.
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:56
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Best Game Ever?

Probably StarFox Adventures, when it comes out... It just looks so damn good. But to-date, I'd have to say Mario 64.
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:52
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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slave2games wrote:
> Armatige sganks said:
"Are console RPGs really RPG's or just jumped up
> Arcade adventures? :@)"

If that was the case, then couldn't you say that
> racing games are jumped up action games? Or puzzlers are jumped up point and
> click adventures?

Dont you mean adventures are jumped up puzzlers?

However...

No not at all...

In the same way that Diablo isnt considered a RPG, a console RPG seem to be more closely related to the arcade adventures of old (e.g. Magic Knight, Dizzy, Firebrand, etc..)

For example there is often very few stats involved beyod hit points (which in Zelda are definied by hearts)

You are provided with pre defined characters... your not choose and defining the characters before playing the game, you start with a predefinied hero and take it from there...

Games often follow driven, predefined storyline and are far more linier for completion... you have to solve one problem before you move on to the next... Events occour in a set order, etc...

This isnt to say there arnt any predefined quests in RPGs, more that you are given an overall task, and how you go about completing that is up to you... How you solve a problem isnt always predetermined and which order you solve them in is up to you...

Theres nothing wrong with arcade adventures, truth be told they were/are probably my all time favourite genre...
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:43
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Armatige sganks said:
"Are console RPGs really RPG's or just jumped up Arcade adventures? :@)"

If that was the case, then couldn't you say that racing games are jumped up action games? Or puzzlers are jumped up point and click adventures?
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:36
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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What about Best FPS? Half Life?

Best Shootem up? : X-Wing? Elite?
(especially in relation to its upcomming GBA release?)

Best Puzzel Game? : Tetris? Lemmings? Pipemania?

Best Multiplay? : Mario Kart? Bomberman?

Are console RPGs really RPG's or just jumped up Arcade adventures? :@)
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:35
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nonononono ur all wrong Counter-Strike kicks bottom hands down
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:31
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Grix Thraves wrote:
> Best RPG is Skies of Arcadia, I'll think you'll find.


Yeah, I have that game, and it is one of my favorites. However, it was Final Fantasy what redefined the RPG. As i said though, Skies of arcadia is one of my favorites.
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:29
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Best RPG is Skies of Arcadia, I'll think you'll find.
Tue 08/01/02 at 17:27
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Outlaw_UK wrote:
> slave2games wrote:
> By the way, I would like you other guys+gals to post
> your views on the best game
> ever.

Yeeeeah, I just did.......


Sorry about that, by the time i'd posted my erm, post, yours appeared.

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