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Tue 17/07/07 at 14:43
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So far in your life, have you ever broken the law? You can answer with a simple yes or no, or go into more detail.

I'm thinking a high percentage of people have done something illegal. I'm not talking about murder or rape (though I wouldnt be suprised if some of you have committed arson) but small, petty crimes.

Perhaps you werent even aware you were committing a crime or you feel what you've done shouldnt be illegal in the first place.

Lets have a quick run down to confirm whether some things you might have done, are actually illegal or not. And no this is not a list of things I've done. (well not all of them)

Is it illegal to download copyrighted songs, movies and TV shows?
Is it illegal to park in a disabled space?
Is it illegal to steal traffic cones and wear them as a hat?
Is it illegal to prank call the emergency numbers?
Is it illegal to have sexual intercourse with livestock?
Is it illegal to park infront of somebodys driveway?
Is it illegal to film your sister in the shower?
Is it considered rape if you have sex with a drunk woman?
Is it illegal to pay someone 'cash in hand' to avoid taxes?
Is it illegal to litter?
Is it illegal for women to walk around topless in town?
Is it illegal to use someone elses WIFI connection?
Is it illegal to burn flags?

I think that'll do for now =/
Tue 17/07/07 at 20:20
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Downloading random stuff.
Stealing random stuff.
Fighting random people.
Being drunk and disorderly.
Drug abuse.

Oh, and I once stole someone's car and drove it down a hill.
(accident)
Tue 17/07/07 at 20:17
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"Twenty quid."
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Biggie Little Jr wrote:
> Exactly Chaos! If I was to download a film through Limewire or
> through a torrent, watch it, and then delete it, is that any
> worse than watching something straight off of YouTube or
> TvLinks? Does that then make Piracy illegal but watching
> something of TvLinks illegal?

A good rule of thumb is that if you're getting something for free that you would normally pay for then it's illegal.

You know that copying/uploading/downloading or whatever is illegal - just because you delete films after watching them doesn't make it right. Cinemas and movie rentals shops are there if you don't want to buy a film.

Watching something on YouTube or TVLinks still transfers the file to you computer as you watch it so it's the same as download/watch/delete.

But, as I've said more than once: it's your choice; I don't care if that's what you want to do. Just don't say you do it and then try and justify it.
Tue 17/07/07 at 20:09
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"Twenty quid."
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Biggie Little Jr wrote:
> So by that logic, does that make watching a video on YouTube
> illegal?

Like Bob said: if it's there without the copyright holders permission then it's illegal.

I think lawfully the responsibility falls to YouTube to remove them so I doubt you could be charged for watching them.
Tue 17/07/07 at 20:00
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"Mooching around"
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Bob_The_Moose wrote:
> Chaos wrote:
> Right now, I'm downloading Windows Vista Ultimate, Microsoft
> Office 2007... Is that really such a crime?
>
> If you're just going to sell them then that's okay, but if
> you're considering installing them for yourself...

Really? Most would argue the other way.
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:50
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Chaos wrote:
> Right now, I'm downloading Windows Vista Ultimate, Microsoft
> Office 2007... Is that really such a crime?

If you're just going to sell them then that's okay, but if you're considering installing them for yourself...

Biggie Little Jr wrote:
> So by that logic, does that make watching a video on YouTube
> illegal?

I'm no lawyer, but I'd think if its being there has the permission of the copyright holder then it's legal (some music videos on YouTube do seem to have been uploaded by record labels; I've seen a few uploaded by a user called Spinefarm or Roadrunner). If not, then no, it's illegal. Or at least, its being there is illegal, presumably that would infer that you taking advantage of its existence is also illegal. It shouldn't matter who else is providing it under what conditions for what price...
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:48
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Biggie Little Jr wrote:
> I wish I knew how to do that :(

Get some torrents and Nero :) People comment step-by-setp guides more than often.


And to Machie, when I was an adolecent teen, I used to steal the odd bag of crisps at lunch.

I've fired a paintball gun from a moving car... That was stupid.

Told many a bar I was 18,19 and even 22 when I was out drinking.

EDIT: Oh! I burned nearly an entire field and forest during my fire addiction.

That's about it.
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:45
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"Mooching around"
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Biggie Little Jr wrote:
> Exactly Chaos! If I was to download a film through Limewire or
> through a torrent, watch it, and then delete it, is that any
> worse than watching something straight off of YouTube or
> TvLinks? Does that then make Piracy illegal but watching
> something of TvLinks illegal? It doesn't apply to me though as I
> only download music and I never delete any ;)

Yeah! And we even have plenty of sites that openly brag about full movie streaming for free. All of these will need to have been downloaded or copied from somewhere originally, and we're just reaping the benefits.
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:45
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Apart from being a movie pirate Chaos, have you done anything else illegal? =)
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:44
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I wish I knew how to do that :(
Tue 17/07/07 at 19:43
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I only sell the movies, and even then only to friends. If I didn't, they'd download it themselves anyway. I just save them the bother, and it pays for a night out :)

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